Alchemist Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 1 hour ago, Deddly said: I think we're all missing the very important detail that there is, in fact, tea in "team". 20 minutes ago, Kuzzter said: And also meat. Let's take the toast from the "SSTO boat" and make a picnic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanic Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 tweakscale Don't hit me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorDavinci Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) so, umm yeah This ....... Love the work so far BTW Edited December 19, 2015 by DoctorDavinci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Music Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 'Tea' in team. Hell yeah! I'm sure if teams drink tea together it will make their bonds stronger ;p 17 hours ago, Kuzzter said: I don't remember how long. But now that i have it I can use it as a starting point build other sets Nice. Pretty sure it took you lots of time though. Good job dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSquid Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Fun note: Hydrazine is considered an antioxidant, which means Bill might actually live longer from drinking all of that hydrazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanic Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 11 minutes ago, RocketSquid said: Fun note: Hydrazine is considered an antioxidant, which means Bill might actually live longer from drinking all of that hydrazine. I think you're mixed up, hydrazine is a monopropellant widely used IRL. Hydrazine is an inorganic compound with the chemical formula H 2NNH 2. It is a colorless flammable liquid with an ammonia-like odor. Hydrazine is highly toxic and dangerously unstable unless handled in solution. Glory to Wikipeda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 5 hours ago, Sanic said: I think you're mixed up, hydrazine is a monopropellant widely used IRL. Hydrazine is an inorganic compound with the chemical formula H 2NNH 2. It is a colorless flammable liquid with an ammonia-like odor. Hydrazine is highly toxic and dangerously unstable unless handled in solution. Glory to Wikipeda. Glory to science - Hydrazine as ...antioxidant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanic Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 19 minutes ago, Deddly said: Glory to science - Hydrazine as ...antioxidant *cough* highly toxic *cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopHeavy11 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Hey, give some credit to the candy-cane hedgehog! He did some quality research there, and YES, it is highly toxic. as in THIS toxic -> X( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 11 hours ago, Sanic said: *cough* highly toxic *cough* Oh yes, no argument from me there Good thing they're only calling it Hydrazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAgain Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Here we go again! I loved DoB and EOZ, looking forward to this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 @Deddly: Could it be ethanol in disguise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 10 hours ago, Deddly said: Good thing they're only calling it Hydrazine Right, good memory. 1 hour ago, Dman979 said: Could it be ethanol in disguise? Well, that would certainly be a lot more drinkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketSquid Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) On 12/19/2015 at 3:04 PM, Sanic said: *cough* highly toxic *cough* 2 hours ago, Kuzzter said: Right, good memory. Well, that would certainly be a lot more drinkable. Not necessarily. For all we know, kerbals can actually drink hydrazine without (many) ill effects. A resistance to hydrazine would serve them well, with their highly-unsafe-space-program-based culture. To quote Wikipedia: "Symptoms of acute (short-term) exposure to high levels of hydrazine may include irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat, dizziness, headache, nausea, pulmonary edema, seizures, coma in humans." Also, many of the long term effects of hydrazine exposure are also long term effects of drinking alcohol. Edited December 20, 2015 by RocketSquid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 15 minutes ago, RocketSquid said: Not necessarily. For all we know, kerbals can actually drink hydrazine without (many) ill effects. A resistance to hydrazine would serve them well, with their highly-unsafe-space-program-based culture. To quote Wikipedia: "Symptoms of acute (short-term) exposure to high levels of hydrazine may include irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat, dizziness, headache, nausea, pulmonary edema, seizures, coma in humans." Also, many of the long term effects of hydrazine exposure are also long term effects of drinking alcohol. Interesting. However, if you want to talk Kerbfleet canon, it's ethanol. This was clearly stated the first time it was mentioned in Duna, Ore Bust! They go on to develop the practice of calling it hydrazine later in the mission. Happy Concerned landings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Air Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) I think that a kerbal should die on this mission because none have before. I think someone should die when a plane crashes on laythe and they have to figure out how to retreive the stuff inside. As for who it should be... Melbe? Clauselle? Some other kerbal who only exists to die? Probably Melbe. Maybe the plane has more people and there has to be a rescue mission? Nah. Final Idea: The plane is entering Laythe's atmosphere when it loses control. The plane has something explode off in the descent through the atmosphere. Melbe recovers control, but the plane is low (around 1000 meters). She tries to land the plane on an island, but the plane loses its engines and crashes into the Sagen Sea (yes, that's its name, check the wiki). DO IT KUZZTER DO IT btw this is laythe atmosphere. FOR SCIENCE! ==UPDATE== Use this Kerbal instead of Melbe: KERBAL CREW RECORD { name = Shelby Kerman gender = Female type = Crew brave = 0.231196 dumb = 0.032212 badS = False tour = False state = Available ToD = 0 idx = -1 CAREER_LOG { flight = 0 } FLIGHT_LOG { flight = 0 } NOT MELBE! STILL DO IT Edited December 20, 2015 by Meridian Air Melbe shouldn't die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 No, that's not a good idea. There may or may not be Kermulans, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 hours ago, Starhawk said: Interesting. However, if you want to talk Kerbfleet canon, it's ethanol. This was clearly stated the first time it was mentioned in Duna, Ore Bust! They go on to develop the practice of calling it hydrazine later in the mission. Happy Concerned landings! I was looking for that page, but couldn't find it. Belive it or not, it was one of the possible charges in E:O0. What's the page again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dman979 said: I was looking for that page, but couldn't find it. Belive it or not, it was one of the possible charges in E:O0. What's the page again? Here's a link to the post. Happy Concerned landings! Edited December 20, 2015 by Starhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 hours ago, Meridian Air said: -snip- He does things on the fly, he doesn't plan most things ahead. Also, kind of rude demanding the comic author to do something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 2 hours ago, Meridian Air said: I think that a kerbal should die on this mission... (many other suggestions) ... (yelling)... (an almost unrelated image)... (more yelling and demanding)... Please understand that Kuzzter is an author, not a DJ. When he crafts something to entertain us, I try to appreciate the time and energy that is put in behind the scenes to make that happen. The fact that Kuzzter chooses to entertain us with his creation does not make him our servant. Demanding that he do your bidding really does seem rude. Also, using excessively large font sizes tends to be considered somewhat impolite. We try to keep it somewhat friendlier than that in here. Happy landings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geschosskopf Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 3 hours ago, Meridian Air said: I think that a kerbal should die on this mission because none have before. I think someone should die when a plane crashes on laythe... While of course this sort of mishap is possible, I hope it doesn't and I also think it's bad form to make such demands. Besides, planes are essential on Laythe. Wrecking one (and I don't see Kuzzter sending very many) will put a big kink in the whole mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) 2 hours ago, smjjames said: He does things on the fly, he doesn't plan most things ahead. Well, that's not entirely true, is it? Think about how much time passed between when you first saw the words "Order Zero" and when Bill told you what it meant. But I do actually fly the missions and let the chips fall where they may--Tedus would have died and stayed dead if I hadn't pulled off the crash landing. And to the newbie, welcome. I appreciate your comment. My own counsel will I keep, though, on whether Kerbfleet would ask a scientist to pilot a spaceplane, or whether I would introduce some random character from your save into this comic, toss aside the hours of R&D I've spent designing a seaplane capable of a deadstick landing anywhere on Laythe, and abuse my not-inconsiderable piloting skills in order to kill said character for your amusement. Edited December 21, 2015 by Kuzzter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceplaneAddict Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 11 hours ago, Kuzzter said: designing a seaplane capable of a deadstick landing anywhere on Laythe Huh? That was supposed to be a deadstick one? Huh. Could we, I dunno, possibly get a glimpse at this new one, presuming you truly DID rid yourself of the pontoons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geschosskopf Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 11 hours ago, Kuzzter said: Well, that's not entirely true, is it? Think about how much time passed between when you first saw the words "Order Zero" and when Bill told you what it meant. .......... ..... designing a seaplane capable of a deadstick landing anywhere on Laythe ...... Wow, I never made the connection between the story's title and the new general order until just now. I'm a bear of very little brain . All this time I thought it was just a flashy name for the whole Eve expedition. A plane that can land "anywhere" on Laythe is a tall order. Kudos. It's got a number of places that present the same sorts of challenges as Duna---very bumpy ground in the thin air of high altitude---only worse because Laythe has more gravity. Thus, not only do you have an unavoidably high approach speed on a bad LZ, but you have a much higher sink rate and hit the ground harder. And putting on enough wing to deal with such places compromises performance at lower altitudes where there's more air (plus greatly complicates getting the thing off the ground at Kerbin to begin with). So while I'm proud to say none of my Duna planes have ever needed parachutes, I've had to use them on Laythe for the high-altitude rough spots. A lot of folks think Laythe is all sweetness and light. And it is if you stay down around sea level and only go to and from there and space. But its small size makes for a very steep air pressure gradient so even moderately high plateaux can be great traps for the unwary :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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