Guest Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, KSK said: I sense a Kobayashi Maru moment approaching. @KSK, I think you're going to like our next installment of Kerbfleet ICYMI very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 ...and as for the rest of you, for the (probably not) last time, Bill can't cheat his way out of this one. Mister Blocko was quite clear on that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboslacker Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I think I'm addicted to kerbfleet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Aaaw all my favourite moments in one update. *tears up* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Oh yeah! Nice update. For the record, I would trust in Kerbfleet AI (Artistic Integrity) to prevent cheating, even without having Mr Blocko there to enforce it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha 360 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 *another intrusion into the fourth wall* *preparing the boot* "OUCH!" *Bill scurries out from the wrong side of fourth wall* *mission accomplished* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geschosskopf Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Kuzzter said: and as for the rest of you, for the (probably not) last time, Bill can't cheat his way out of this one. Mister Blocko was quite clear on that point. Well, maybe he can hack Kermulan computers without affecting the state of the SAVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Geschosskopf said: Well, maybe he can hack Kermulan computers without affecting the state of the SAVE Sure, but if Bill can do that, then Evil Bill can also do that... Spoiler ...which, you may recall, is why Mister Blocko eventually had to step in. Spoiler Now I won't preclude Bill or anyone else engaging in some in-universe rule-breaking, such as he and Jeb did to solve the team's last no-win situation back in Order Zero. But as @KSK correctly points out, ARTISTIC INTEGRITY prevents any solution involving deus ex machina, unreliable narrators, or waking up next to Suzanne Pleshette and realizing "it was all a dream". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Kerman Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 It doesn’t look like Martystu and the Kenlistar Awesome will get them out of this either. Not like he’d suddenly show up on your doorstep... Just how do you beat the no win scenario? Maybe if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em? Although, gambits involve sacrificing a piece on the board to gain advantage... And the word apparently originally came from dare il gambetto (to put a leg forward in order to trip someone) according to Wikipedia. Kind of hard to do that in zero gee unless you suddenly boost so hard that everyone not strapped down is pinned to the floor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) I'm trying to think of another Chess Cheks related situation that might apply but I'm coming up a bit short. We've seen gambits used already - I was wondering if the Intrepid crew could engineer a stalemate situation somehow where anything the Kerbulans do next will put them in such an objectively worse situation that even Evil Val would recognize that there was no good way out. That would kind of fit with Kerbfleet's aversion to violence but at the same time it does rather side-step any actual resolution to Kerbfleet's moral dilemma about how to deal with the murdery murderers, so might not be very satisfactory from a storytelling perspective. There's also the slight drawback that I can't imagine how the Intrepid crew would actually engineer a stalemate but that's probably more a limitation of my imagination. Edit - stalemate would also fit with the 'no way we can win' motif. No you can't, Intrepid - but sometimes a draw is enough. Random other thought - Cheks is great and all but it is only a training tool. Real life sometimes requires you to think outside your training - although that only really works if you have a command structure in place that recognizes that and actively supports it where necessary. It strikes me that Kerbfleet are probably very good at such command structures but the Kerbulans would be incredibly bad at them. And if Dilsby(?) has learned to think like a Kerbulan then perhaps he's also learned how to think outside of their strictures. In any case, I await developments with anticipation! Edited December 11, 2017 by KSK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 35 minutes ago, KSK said: I'm trying to think of another Chess Cheks related situation that might apply but I'm coming up a bit short. Queen to Queen's level three??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Kerman Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Sometimes instead of playing Cheks, you have to play Poker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhetaan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Occam's razor says that the simplest explanation is probably the best (though it does not point out that by that logic, Occam's razor is probably a razor used by someone named Occam), and combined with Chekov's gun, it says that Val or Dilsby have an honourable duel up one of their sleeves. As for how to get out of that, I am waiting with bated breath. Maybe razor can beat gun in a duel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Zhetaan said: As for how to get out of that, I am waiting with bated breath. Maybe razor can beat gun in a duel? Dangit @Zhetaan, you guessed the ending! Here's the complete and official script so no one has to wait any longer than necessary: VAL: [pulls razor] "Evil Bob, I challenge you to a duel!" EVIL BOB: [pulls gun] "I accept!" DILSBY: [sprays Bob's face with lather] "You're all clear, Captin! Now let's shave this thing, and go home!" EVIL BOB: [firing wildly] *BANG* "AAhhh! Can't see--blinded--by foam!" *BANG!* *BANG!* VAL: "There, done! I'll give you a haircut too, for two ker-bits." FORMERLY-EVIL BOB: [rubbing newly smooth face] "Where am I...what's this...this thing in my hand...wow, I could have hurt someone! Ummm... hey, you kerbs wanna go get some science together?" EVERYONE: "Hooray!" -THE END- Edited December 11, 2017 by Kuzzter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 That's an ending that needs some music... Dum-dum dum-dum dum-dum dum-dum... Val! Aaaaah-ahh! Shavior of the universe! I'm sorry - the bad voices made me do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geschosskopf Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Kuzzter said: Dangit @Zhetaan, you guessed the ending! Here's the complete and official script so no one has to wait any longer than necessary: I'll have a double of whatever you're drinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Geschosskopf said: I'll have a double of whatever you're drinking Which would be Kerbulan Ale of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhetaan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) @KSK, thanks for the idea. Spoiler Slash! A-ah! Shavior of the Universe! Slash! A-ah! She'll shave every one of us! (Seemingly there is no reason for these extraordinary interplanetary upsets) (Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha) (What's happening, Slash?) (Only Doctor Wernher von Kermulan, formerly at Kersruhr Institut, has provided any explanation) Slash! A-ah! She's a miracle! (This morning's unprecedented solar eclipse is no cause for alarm) Slash! A-ah! Captin of the impossible! She's for every one of us, Stands for every one of us, She shaves with a mighty hand! Every man, every woman (oh?), Every child (whoa!), with a mighty Slash! And remember, kids: Before they send us To a grave, Evil Kerbs use Kerba Shave. Edited December 12, 2017 by Zhetaan Kuzzter has good ideas, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zhetaan said: @KSK, thanks for the idea. Reveal hidden contents Slash! A-ah! Shavior of the Universe! Slash! A-ah! She'll shave every one of us! (Seemingly there is no reason for these extraordinary interplanetary upsets) (Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha) (What's happening, Slash?) (Only Doctor Wernher von Kermulan, formerly at Kersruhr Institut, has provided any explanation) Slash! A-ah! She's a miracle! (This morning's unprecedented solar eclipse is no cause for alarm) Slash! A-ah! Captin of the impossible! She's for every one of us, Stands for every one of us, She shaves with a mighty hand! Every man, every woman (oh?), Every child (whoa!), with a mighty Slash! And remember, kids: Before they send us To a grave, Evil Kerbs use Burma Shave. OMG must create new "Kerba Shave" agency--awards contracts to space programs that can orbit their advertisements, conveniently spaced in kerbosynchronous orbit so you can read them in sequence as you whizz by... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Zoom Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Contract only counts as complete after you've launched and positioned all four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) It's no good. After @Zhetaan's fine lyrics, I couldn't get my own version out of my head. So after a bit of work... Spoiler "Val" (a tribute to @Kuzzter's Jool Odyssey) Val! Aaaaa-ah Captain of the Intrepid. Val! Aaaaa-ah Commands every one of us (Scientifically, there is a reason for this extraordinary interplanetary venture) (Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha) (Don’t worry, Mort.) (But only Doctor Wernher von Kerman, of Kerbfleet has provided any explanation) Bill! Aaaaaa-ah He's a miracle (This morning's unprecedented launch is a cause for celebration!) Jeb! Aaaaa-ah King of the Impossible. But they’re against every one of us Murder every one of us So Gene with intrepid band For every kerbal ‘cross the land Braved hostile skies with a mighty Flash! (Supreme Commander! Gene Kerman approaching.) (What do you mean, Gene Kerman approaching? Open fire! All weapons! Fwoooosh! Fwoooosh. Pew-pew-pew! (Dispatch the Ghost to bring back his ship) Gene! Aaaa-ah (Gregmore’s alive!) Greg! Moooooorreeee! He'll save every one of us Just a Kerb With a Kerb's courage You know he's Nothing but a Kerbal And he can never fail No one but the pure at heart May find the way to peace ...Oh..Oh........Oh..Oh.... (Look lively, Mister Dilsby. We only have fourteen hours to save Intrepid.) Val! Edited December 16, 2017 by KSK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, KSK said: It's no good. After @Zhetaan's fine lyrics, I couldn't get my own version out of my head. So after a bit of work... OMG... I'm dying!!! Too funny!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingPete Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 When you can't win at Chess Cheks, you try to avoid defeat by playing for a stalemate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Kerman Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I think they all need a dance-off competition in a disco bar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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