Curveball Anders Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 1 hour ago, godefroi said: Plus, there's always the elephant in the room: Squad isn't a software company, Or at least they weren't before KSP happened But it still means that we have no idea what Squad is up to next time. Their next project might just as well be a sanctuary for migrating polar bears or a dance school for one legged tap dancers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoidos Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 2 hours ago, Majorjim said: You are on! *digital handshake You do realize, you can't win this bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overland Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 We had rockets..then spaceplanes with questionable physics... Then we got better physics and more planes...next we got the chance to make thunderbird 4 with new water physics... I see a trend. KSP2 is going to put every 'simulator to shame if it hasnt already..and the common theme is in the cab of every truck and locomotive...in the cockpit of every plane...in the wheelhouse of every fully simulated steam paddlesteamer... Is bug eyed short green people with no noses that never blink Other simulators know nothing of kerbal..therefore they are lesser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorjim! Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Just now, Zoidos said: You do realize, you can't win this bet? How exactly, given that I would NOT like to see Squad make KSP 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxman Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 11 hours ago, DrMarlboro said: There likely won't be a "KSP 2" simply because there's no reason to be a second game. Anything that can advance this game to something better will likely just come as an update. If squad did decide to make another game, it won't be a successor to ksp. Yeah because updates surely would make them money right?? The fact is that they are alot of things they cannot do right now due to current engine and sometime in the future they might across a engine that will add alot to the game and rewrtiting the entire game for a completey different engine is simply not going to be profitable. Current KSP probably have many years left but there will be one day in the not so distant future where userbase is no longer big enough to make it profitable to even release paid updates. We have already passed the peak of popularity and userbase is slowly shrinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 8 minutes ago, Majorjim said: How exactly, given that I would NOT like to see Squad make KSP 2? You would have to wait 'til the end of the universe (or at least to the end of squad as a software developer) to count this bet as won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stenole Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 15 hours ago, Majorjim said: I want to play first person Kerbal perspective with a VR headset! If so, hopefully camera wobble won't be implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorjim! Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Just now, Tantalus said: You would have to wait 'til the end of the universe (or at least to the end of squad as a software developer) to count this bet as won. Oh I see, Meh.. Neither of us will win, more correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanitis Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, Tantalus said: You would have to wait 'til the end of the universe (or at least to the end of squad as a software developer*) to count this bet as won. * and the end of whoever will inherit the rights. But it's not impossible. And I think I'll always welcome a reason to aim a random spot in the world with a barrel of beer on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonrd463 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I also doubt there will ever be a KSP 2 any time soon, mainly because this type of game rarely gets a sequel. Sure, there are the various flight sims that have come out with new versions over the years, but usually, it's only games that have an underlying story to them that get sequels. New locales and conflicts for shooters, new adventures for RPGs, etc. An update to KSP would be purely based on updating the underlying tech to run more complete simulations of physics, orbital mechanics, etc. From a business standpoint, I can't see an outfit as small as Squad devoting resources to something like that. I could be wrong, however, and there's no harm in speculating. I've often tooled around with Space Engine and thought "Man, I wish planets in KSP could look like that!" I'm sure we all have our wishlists for what KSP could feature, so why not forget debate on whether or not there will be a version 2 and explore a few "What if?" scenarios, which is what I think the OP was doing in the first place. Here's my list: -Native n-body physics simulation -First person freedom of movement within vessels, and accompanying gameplay, i.e. more robust control of the ship, interactive science experiments, etc. -More robust basebuilding and management, incorporating strategies similar to city building games -User-defined goals, scope, and direction for careers -More richly detailed planets and bodies with more interactive things to do with regard to collecting science and exploration -Other things I can't name off he top of my head right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 20 minutes ago, Majorjim said: Oh I see, Meh.. Neither of us will win, more correctly. I'm afraid you are wrong, as @Evanitis will win the moment KSP2 is released. But back to topic, i dont think this will happen. What could they put into such a game that isn't already in KSP? They could make a completly different new game, but it wouldn't be a KSP2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_G Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 16 hours ago, Majorjim said: I want to play first person Kerbal perspective with a VR headset! In May, when my Oculus Rift arrives, i will be with you I really hope, if KSP goes 2 some day, we will have interstellar travel with another system to explore and some futuristic concepts, when it comes to parts. But, i would really like KSP to be further developed, instead of a new version... some graphics updates and a much longer tech tree... that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandaman Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 3 hours ago, Evanitis said: Sounds cool. How about this: if KSP 2 comes out, you buy it for me. If it never comes out, I buy you a barrel of beer. 3 hours ago, Majorjim said: You are on! *digital handshake Evantis got the best end of this deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceemiller Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) IMO there wont be a KSP2. What need is there for it anyway? Take Gran Turismo for example. Ive played all of them yet still the best one was the first. Graphics improve for sure, but as that series went on it offered nothing to excite me. If Squad continue to keep KSP updated from time to time they will continue to make money and gather more players for years to come. Youve created a masterpiece...... Edited February 7, 2016 by maceemiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoidos Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, Majorjim said: How exactly, given that I would NOT like to see Squad make KSP 2? I meant that a potential release date is a fixed point in time, whereas "never" is a very long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grek Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 ksp is a game which can be polished with paid dlc's forever. IMHO thats fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorjim! Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 51 minutes ago, Tantalus said: I'm afraid you are wrong, as @Evanitis will win the moment KSP2 is released. But back to topic, i dont think this will happen. What could they put into such a game that isn't already in KSP? They could make a completly different new game, but it wouldn't be a KSP2. Nope, KSP will never be made, that is why I said neither of us win.. It will never be released. 9 minutes ago, Zoidos said: I meant that a potential release date is a fixed point in time, whereas "never" is a very long time See above.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Quote Plus, there's always the elephant in the room: Squad isn't a software company... Sigh. No matter how many times this gets corrected... SOME of the people now working for Squad STARTED working together when they were employed by a marketing company. Squad was split off from that company. Squad itself IS a software maker, and nothing else. For the love of Mike, PLEASE stop repeating this erroneous complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo98x Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Years ago if you ask if KS P would ever come to consoles I'm sure many people would have said never. Either a studio will buy out Squad and make it or Squad will do it them self. This is a business and this is a huge money maker. Just like Call of Duty has had sequels so will ksp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godefroi Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 6 hours ago, Mastema said: I'd be okay with KSP 2 if it meant a switch to a better engine. The game performs terribly with larger rockets and crashes fairly often if you use mods, at least in my experience Your experience with mods is, I would guess, atypical. I play with a large list of mods, and I think the last time I saw an actual CTD was somewhere around 0.23. Besides, if the game only crashes for you when mods are involved, how do you arrive at the conclusion that the game engine is somehow at fault? The fact that the game runs slow with large rockets is a result of the game design, not the engine. The game creates rockets from lots of various parts; when the rocket flies, it's still a bunch of connected parts, all of which the engine must manage, and simulate separately. This would be an issue regardless of engine. 2 hours ago, Vanamonde said: Sigh. No matter how many times this gets corrected... SOME of the people now working for Squad STARTED working together when they were employed by a marketing company. Squad was split off from that company. Squad itself IS a software maker, and nothing else. For the love of Mike, PLEASE stop repeating this erroneous complaint. We're talking about this Squad, right: http://www.squad.com.mx/SquadSite/index.htm? Under services (http://www.squad.com.mx/SquadSite/index.htm#s02) a lot of things are listed, almost all of which are not related to software. Even if we're talking about a different, "split off" Squad, that only makes what I said MORE true, not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Quote We're talking about this Squad, right... No, we're not talking about a 3.5-year-old website for the company that Squad used to be part of, before they split off and dedicated themselves to making KSP. Quote Even if we're talking about a different, "split off" Squad, that only makes what I said MORE true, not less. No, it pretty much means exactly the opposite of what you're saying. Only a couple of the people working at Squad now ever worked on marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Poor @Vanamonde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razark Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) So what is Squad used to be part of Squad but now Squad is Squad instead of Squad, and what was Squad is not-Squad? Edited February 8, 2016 by razark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinoz Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 19 hours ago, DrMarlboro said: There likely won't be a "KSP 2" simply because there's no reason to be a second game. Anything that can advance this game to something better will likely just come as an update. If squad did decide to make another game, it won't be a successor to ksp. Agree. I think a prequel is much more likely as a second Squad title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMarlboro Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 7 hours ago, Majorjim said: Nope, KSP will never be made, that is why I said neither of us win.. It will never be released. See above.. KSP 2 has never been released. Therefore, you owe that man a case of beer because since never is neither a unit of time, nor past, present, or future, you automatically lose. Sorry bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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