[1.9.x] QuizTech Aero Pack Continued

[linuxgurugamer]

35 minutes ago, Adz said:

Yeah I am and here it is

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B--jvqNiAzPtbVVxR0psRk8tdW8

Thanks.

Just to confirm the original report:

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I am having a problem with both the k-35B and the Mk-1 Razor VTOL engines whereby when in VTOL mode they do not lock in place and keep resetting,

meaning I cannot VTOL, any ideas for the cause and/or any rectifications??

Did you install via CKAN or manually?

[Adz]

3 hours ago, linuxgurugamer said:

Thanks.

Just to confirm the original report:

Did you install via CKAN or manually?

I installed the mod from the curse link, if thats what you mean

 

[linuxgurugamer]

12 minutes ago, Adz said:

I installed the mod from the curse link, if thats what you mean

 

That is old.  Please get it from spacedock and let me know how it goes

[linuxgurugamer]

New release:  1.3.7

• Added missing IVA for K-10 cockpit

[Svm420]

On 3/24/2016 at 7:30 PM, Svm420 said:

@Quiznos323

After wasting too much time trying to fix a problem that I didn't cause. Your f-35B turbofan main engine has an off center thrust transform . Easily noticeable by placing the engine as the root part with RCS build aid you can see torque will be generated showing the thrust vector is not aligned with the CoM. Really quite frustrating as such a minor issue went this long unnoticed and absolutely renders the part unusable.  Hope such a minor thing can be fixed without being delayed by whatever more substantial changes are needed for 1.1. 

Side note guess this makes my F-35 much more like the real one delayed for bad engineering that should have been caught by the manufacturer .

 

 

On 3/25/2016 at 1:47 PM, Svm420 said:

After A bit more trial I think the problem lies in the VTOL animation. I was able to get the com aligned with the engine in regular mode, but when switched to vtol it causes torque from the thrust vector being not centered after the animation plays. Which is actually worse than it being offset in both mode as it is now impossible to balance as if you balance for 1 mode when you switch your thrust will be off center.  Hope that helps!  I hate 1.1 for putting modders off of maintaining mods...

 

 

On 3/26/2016 at 5:35 PM, Svm420 said:

Checked the mk1 version in hopes of using that, but it has the same issue with the thrust vector being offset when engaging VTOL mode.

Hey, @linuxgurugamer. I had posted about this issue a long time ago in the original thread. I was wondering if it is able to be fixed, or if we are SOL without the author's files. Thanks!

[linuxgurugamer]

19 minutes ago, Svm420 said:

 

 

Hey, @linuxgurugamer. I had posted about this issue a long time ago in the original thread. I was wondering if it is able to be fixed, or if we are SOL without the author's files. Thanks!

Pretty much sol.  I'll contact someone about it, but I don't do modeling.  It is possible to import into Blender, so I'll see if anything can be done.

[Non-Newtonian]

KVV & QTAP have allowed me to create this gem of a picture

https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/5shz1l/flying_pig_qtap_example_craft/

 

 Thank you very much for all your work linuxgurugamer

Edited February 7, 2017 by Non-Newtonian

[Quiznos323]

On 1/29/2017 at 9:37 AM, linuxgurugamer said:

Pretty much sol.  I'll contact someone about it, but I don't do modeling.  It is possible to import into Blender, so I'll see if anything can be done.

Here is the Blend file for anyone who want to try and monkey with it. I'll warn you, I took a quick look at it and it's really messy and unorganized, but if someone wants to put in the time that I don't have, by all means:

K-35B.blend

On 2/6/2017 at 6:25 PM, Non-Newtonian said:

KVV & QTAP have allowed me to create this gem of a picture

https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/5shz1l/flying_pig_qtap_example_craft/

 

 Thank you very much for all your work linuxgurugamer

That was a fun craft to build

Edited February 13, 2017 by Quiznos323

[linuxgurugamer]

Just now, Quiznos323 said:

Here is the Blend file for anyone who want to try and monkey with it. I'll warn you, I took a quick look at it and it's really messy and unorganized, but if someone wants to put in the time that I don't have, by all means:

 K-35B.blend

@Quiznos323

It would help if you actually posted a link

[Quiznos323]

1 minute ago, linuxgurugamer said:

@Quiznos323

It would help if you actually posted a link

I'm trying but it keeps failing to insert the link lol

[linuxgurugamer]

Just now, Quiznos323 said:

I'm trying but it keeps failing to insert the link lol

ah.  where is the file located?

[Quiznos323]

1 minute ago, linuxgurugamer said:

ah.  where is the file located?

I put it up on mediafire. Is that not supported on these forums? I think I remember something about that..

[linuxgurugamer]

2 minutes ago, Quiznos323 said:

I put it up on mediafire. Is that not supported on these forums? I think I remember something about that..

No, it isn't.

Try Dropbox or Google Drive.  I'll add it to the main repo so it won't need to be there long

[Quiznos323]

8 minutes ago, linuxgurugamer said:

No, it isn't.

Try Dropbox or Google Drive.  I'll add it to the main repo so it won't need to be there long

Here's a google drive link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9EDyAVwpDT_Z2xwazRYRXlSUVk

[linuxgurugamer]

7 hours ago, Quiznos323 said:

Here's a google drive link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9EDyAVwpDT_Z2xwazRYRXlSUVk

The model file for the K-35B is now in the QuiztechAeroContinued repo on GitHub:

https://github.com/linuxgurugamer/QuizTechAeroPackContinued/blob/master/ModelFiles/K-35B.blend

[TMasterson5]

On 1/29/2017 at 6:37 PM, linuxgurugamer said:

Pretty much sol.  I'll contact someone about it, but I don't do modeling.  It is possible to import into Blender, so I'll see if anything can be done.

Hey! Ive worked on a whole bunch of mods now and fancy myself above average at it by now. So what is going on with the engine exactly?

8 hours ago, linuxgurugamer said:

The model file for the K-35B is now in the QuiztechAeroContinued repo on GitHub:

https://github.com/linuxgurugamer/QuizTechAeroPackContinued/blob/master/ModelFiles/K-35B.blend

Just here for my reference of the model so it is easier to find later on....

[linuxgurugamer]

46 minutes ago, TMasterson5 said:

Hey! Ive worked on a whole bunch of mods now and fancy myself above average at it by now. So what is going on with the engine exactly?

Just here for my reference of the model so it is easier to find later on....

See this post:  

 

[TMasterson5]

On 1/29/2017 at 6:16 PM, Svm420 said:

 

 

Hey, @linuxgurugamer. I had posted about this issue a long time ago in the original thread. I was wondering if it is able to be fixed, or if we are SOL without the author's files. Thanks!

@Svm420, Im gonna try to take a look at this. Can you give me a description of what exactly you mean? What I am reading is that the thrust transform is in line with the parts COM when in regular flight, but in VTOL mode the thrust vector points out of line with the engines actual nozzle? Am I correct in assuming this or what is going on? Pictures of the issue if possible wold be extremely helpful too!

[Svm420]

2 hours ago, TMasterson5 said:

@Svm420, Im gonna try to take a look at this. Can you give me a description of what exactly you mean? What I am reading is that the thrust transform is in line with the parts COM when in regular flight, but in VTOL mode the thrust vector points out of line with the engines actual nozzle? Am I correct in assuming this or what is going on? Pictures of the issue if possible wold be extremely helpful too!

 

That was quite some time ago So, I am going to go in the game and get some pics and confirm the exact problem. Really appreciate your help!  

[Svm420]

@TMasterson5 All right link to the album since we can't embed them. I think I know what the issue is, but it could be 1 of 2 things. The thrustTransfom is, most likely to me, rotated improperly. If you look at the last image in the album and imagine a clock face with 12 o'clock being the top of the craft nd 6 o'clock being where the nozzle should point in VTOL mode I think it is rotated to just past 6, just to the left of true center. It could, however, be offset and not a rotation issue. It could be incorrectly offset slightly right. As both issues are corrected for by offsetting mass to the right it could be either problem. Hope that makes sense. My test environment was quiztech, Firespitter and RCSBuildAid to see the torque.

Edited February 14, 2017 by Svm420

[TMasterson5]

37 minutes ago, Svm420 said:

@TMasterson5 All right link to the album since we can't embed them. I think I know what the issue is, but it could be 1 of 2 things. The thrustTransfom is, most likely to me, rotated improperly. If you look at the last image in the album and imagine a clock face with 12 o'clock being the top of the craft nd 6 o'clock being where the nozzle should point in VTOL mode I think it is rotated to just past 6, just to the left of true center. It could, however, be offset and not a rotation issue. It could be incorrectly offset slightly right. As both issues are corrected for by offsetting mass to the right it could be either problem. Hope that makes sense. My test environment was quiztech, Firespitter and RCSBuildAid to see the torque.

I'll take a look later this week. Thanks for the info and pictures man!

[linuxgurugamer]

15 hours ago, TMasterson5 said:

I'll take a look later this week. Thanks for the info and pictures man!

Be sure to ping me, either via PM or here, when  you have it fixed and ready for release

Thanks

 

[TMasterson5]

54 minutes ago, linuxgurugamer said:

Be sure to ping me, either via PM or here, when  you have it fixed and ready for release

Thanks

 

Will do!

[Quiznos323]

4 hours ago, TMasterson5 said:

Will do!

I'll chime in here. When I last looked at the .blend, the nozzle itself was rotated slightly off center from the world grid. For it to be fixed, the animation is likely going to have to be redone.

[Svm420]

@TMasterson5

If at all possible it would benefit recreation if the nozzle had a second animation for a  45* setting as the real F35 engine sets at 45* for short takeoffs.