ddavis425 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 16 hours ago, Brigadier said: Which version of Scatterer are you using? I've had to downgrade to v0.0336 to get rid of the black clouds? Downgrading to that version helped. I was using the latest version. I guess GPP isn't compatible with the newest version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBob Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, ddavis425 said: I guess GPP isn't compatible with the newest version? Correct, it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubbyZebra Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 8/29/2019 at 9:41 PM, OhioBob said: With a major rewrite, probably. It's never going to happen though unless you do it yourself. I am recently returned and a bit bad at the search function, so I hope you will indulge me, but what ever happened to GPP secondary? (I was looking for that and GEP to put on a fresh 1.7.3 install and can't find any of it listed in CKAN) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddavis425 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I've never used CKAN but to install it you download the mod, open the Optional Mods folder, and drag the GPP_Secondary folder into your GameData folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigadier Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, GrubbyZebra said: I am recently returned and a bit bad at the search function, so I hope you will indulge me, but what ever happened to GPP secondary? (I was looking for that and GEP to put on a fresh 1.7.3 install and can't find any of it listed in CKAN) Since the last official releases of GPP, GPP Secondary and GEP were for KSP 1.6.3, you need to flag 1.6 as compatible with your 1.7.3 install. In CKAN go to Settings > Compatible KSP versions... and select 1.7 and 1.6. They should now show up. That said, I followed the manual install instructions from the OP for GPP and GEP so I can't be of much more help than that. Note, however, that you may run into problems with Scatterer and Kerbal Konstructs. The last Scatterer version I've found to be compatible with GPP v1.6.3.1and KSP v1.7.3 is v0.0336. KK was giving me weird runway scaling problems so I uninstalled it (YMMV). Edited September 15, 2019 by Brigadier Spelling error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBob Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) On 9/14/2019 at 10:13 PM, GrubbyZebra said: I am recently returned and a bit bad at the search function, so I hope you will indulge me, but what ever happened to GPP secondary? (I was looking for that and GEP to put on a fresh 1.7.3 install and can't find any of it listed in CKAN) GPP is supposedly on CKAN, but GEP is not. I don't use CKAN myself, so I can't help with that. However, there's no reason that I know of that should keep you from using GPP_Secondary and GEP. Be advised, however, that GEP has been updated for the most recent scatterer and Kopernicus, while GPP has not. Some of those changes are not backwards compatible. So if you want to use scatterer with GPP, you have to use an old version of scatterer (v0.336 as I recall). And if you want to use GEP with GPP/scatterer, you have to use an old version of GEP that's compatible with the old scatterer (v1.0.1.3). To use GPP_Secondary and GEP, your GameData folder should include the following: GEP GPP GPP_Secondary Kopernicus ModularFlightIntegrator ModuleManager GPP_Secondary is included in the "Optional Mods" folder of the downloaded zip file. Edited September 16, 2019 by OhioBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubbyZebra Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Thanks. None of it was showing up, and I thought someone mentioned earlier that GPP didn't work with 1.7. Good to know this isn't the case. I am also going to check out JNSQ, as it looks intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBob Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, GrubbyZebra said: I thought someone mentioned earlier that GPP didn't work with 1.7. To be honest, I don't remember. So much has changed recently that I've lost track. It might not work. I know Kopernicus implemented some big changes with, I think, version 1.7.1. You might have to roll back to KSP/Kopernicus 1.7 or earlier for GPP to work. The latest GEP definitely works with the current KSP, but GEP has been upgraded, GPP has not. Edited September 16, 2019 by OhioBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigadier Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 11 hours ago, GrubbyZebra said: Thanks. None of it was showing up, and I thought someone mentioned earlier that GPP didn't work with 1.7. I'm currently running KSP v1.7.3, GPP v1.6.3.1 (high res clouds), GEP v1.0.1.5 with Scatterer v0.0336 (although without KK) and everything seems to be working just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBob Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 39 minutes ago, Brigadier said: GEP v1.0.1.5 with Scatterer v0.0336 Really? GEP 1.0.1.5 configs are written for scatterer 0.0540. I didn't think they were backwards compatible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigadier Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, OhioBob said: Really? GEP 1.0.1.5 configs are written for scatterer 0.0540. I didn't think they were backwards compatible. Not sure what might be going on then, but with GPP & GEP at those versions I had to backtrack on Scatterer to solve the black sky problem. This combination has been stable for me since then. Since GEP wasn't installed via CKAN, the GEP .version file supplied that version number. I think I'm correct on that one. I haven't visited the Grannus system yet so I can't say definitively that there are no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBob Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Brigadier said: I haven't visited the Grannus system yet so I can't say definitively that there are no problems. GEP 1.0.1.5 should work fine with GPP and KSP 1.7.3, but I don't know about the scatterer configs. If when you get to Grannus you find that the scatterer atmospheres are messed up, you may need to roll back to GEP 1.0.1.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulgur Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 3:18 PM, Galileo said: On 8/25/2019 at 11:44 AM, Irrehaare said: Can anyone with GPP already installed let us know it it's fully compatible with breaking grounds? (my emphasis) It's not Sorry to bother you, but does this mean that GPP will break completely and utterly if I have BG installed, or merely that you have no deployed science definitions? Because I would really like to try out this, and I can do without deployed science and surface features, but I really like the robotic parts and especially the propellors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigadier Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 hours ago, fulgur said: Sorry to bother you, but does this mean that GPP will break completely and utterly if I have BG installed, or merely that you have no deployed science definitions? Because I would really like to try out this, and I can do without deployed science and surface features, but I really like the robotic parts and especially the propellors. I can't answer the question completely, but I'm running GPP with BG so it doesn't break completely. I suspect, and someone else will likely answer more fully, it's just the surface features that don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulgur Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Thank you! *Notification sound: Fulgur has liked a post in a topic 'GPP v1.6'.* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrehaare Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I've switched to JNSQ and so far I like it a lot. It's also compatible with BG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluE_BrO Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Hello, just wanted to ask about Argo and its cryovulcanism. Just recently did a mission to it but for the life of me couldnt find any signs of it. When I went digging into the files, I found in GPP_Clouds DDS files for geyser and geyserdetails both of which are white DDSs. Is there any newer version or am I doing sth wrong? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky21 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Galileo, please don't burry this mod. I find it superior to everythign else in ksp, including JNSQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pleb Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 15 hours ago, Nicky21 said: Galileo, please don't burry this mod. I find it superior to everythign else in ksp, including JNSQ. It hasn't been forgotten about it's just that Team Galileo have been hard at work on JNSQ instead. I agree that as far as 1.0x scale systems go this is my personal favourite. Now, if this was in 2.7x... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwinpatrick Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Pleb said: It hasn't been forgotten about it's just that Team Galileo have been hard at work on JNSQ instead. I agree that as far as 1.0x scale systems go this is my personal favourite. Now, if this was in 2.7x... I've been interested in rescale systems for a while. Does JNSQ appropriately scale engine ISP, fuel fractions, etc., or is it meant to be a great challenge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileo Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, darwinpatrick said: I've been interested in rescale systems for a while. Does JNSQ appropriately scale engine ISP, fuel fractions, etc., or is it meant to be a great challenge? JNSQ is natively 1/4 real scale. This allows for an RSS type of experience while using stock parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwinpatrick Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, Galileo said: JNSQ is natively 1/4 real scale. This allows for an RSS type of experience while using stock parts. It's not too difficult though is it? What's delta-v to orbit, for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBob Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, darwinpatrick said: It's not too difficult though is it? What's delta-v to orbit, for example? It's not crazy hard by any means, but it is meant to be more difficult. Largely because many people think that stock is far too easy. 1/4 scale brings it to about where it should be to have a gaming experience that feels more lifelike (without having to change fuel fractions, etc.). Delta-v to orbit is about 4900 m/s. Delta-v for most other maneuvers is about 65% greater than at stock scale. It's intended to make you burn through about as many stages to complete a mission as it would in real life. No more easy SSTO for instance. Edited December 11, 2019 by OhioBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbershaft Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’m getting ready to do my first GPP play through. Is there a version of KSP that “works best” for GPP? Like 1.5.x or something like that? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeOfMaar Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gilbershaft said: Is there a version of KSP that “works best” for GPP? I would think not. There's no reason to not try GPP on any particular KSP version. It will work fine in KSP 1.4.5+ and should be just fine in 1.7.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.