sevenperforce Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, magnemoe said: Why tracks, its running on an flat deck, that is unless they want to move the rocket with it. Tracks provide better zero-turn capability, I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: Tracks provide better zero-turn capability, I bet. As well as better traction under less-than-ideal conditions like a wet deck, and better weight distribution across the suspension (if it has any). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) Soviet posters about space. Look at these ships Spoiler Edited February 15, 2019 by sh1pman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, sh1pman said: Soviet posters about space. Look at these ships Reveal hidden contents Well, the shape and design of the Vostok rocket and spacecraft weren't revealed until the 1967 Paris Air Show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Is that supposed to be Yuri Gagarin? For shame, dear artists, for shame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Now that’s metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Now that’s metal. Inconel? As in 1950s research plane Inconel? Seems like NASA did all the research and spaceX did all the engineering... Edited February 16, 2019 by Xd the great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Spoiler They should cast the whole rocket. And better from iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barzon Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 What is Inconel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 16 hours ago, magnemoe said: Why tracks, its running on an flat deck, that is unless they want to move the rocket with it. Caterpillar treads. Probably to maximize load-bearing capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman4308 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Barzon Kerman said: What is Inconel? It's an iron-nickel-chromium alloy noted for corrosion resistance and resilience to temperature and pressure. It's commonly used in aerospace applications as a result; it's hard to work with, but quite robust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Starman4308 said: It's an iron-nickel-chromium alloy noted for corrosion resistance and resilience to temperature and pressure. It's commonly used in aerospace applications as a result; it's hard to work with, but quite robust. And IIRC, fairly heavy, or they'd build entire spacecraft out of it http://www.specialmetals.com/assets/smc/documents/alloys/inconel/inconel-alloy-625.pdf In Star Wars, the Iconic X-wing fighter is listed as an Incom T-65. I've always had a sneaking suspicion that Incom is a play on inconel, but I suppose it could be coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 hours ago, StrandedonEarth said: I've always had a sneaking suspicion that Incom is a play on inconel Or after a Russian real estate company with a side business of car dealership. Or after an Italian newsreel producer... 3 hours ago, StrandedonEarth said: And IIRC, fairly heavy, or they'd build entire spacecraft out of it Hold Douglas’s beer, they were going to build a follow-up to the X-15 out of thorium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) Found this render. Does this configuration make any sense? Is there a mission that would benefit from this? I doubt that droneship landing for Super Heavy will be a thing, so let’s assume that all 3 boosters RTLS. Edited February 17, 2019 by sh1pman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, sh1pman said: Found this render. Does this configuration make any sense? Is there a mission that would benefit from this? Probably not, not with orbital refueling, anyway. You’d essentially be throwing away the center core when you could get the same result (a fully or near-fully fueled Starship in orbit) for (presumably) less by just launching multiple tankers. Rapid reuse really will be quite the paradigm changer. Also, it’s bugging the crap out of me that the “bottom” of that Starship is point off in some weird direction instead of in line with the booster mounting axis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Speaking of alternate configurations, I wonder, if Starship ever needs an extremely big boost, if you could launch a one-off expendable stage one as an SSTO, refuel it all the way up, and use that to boost Starship super far. Maybe for outer planet missions? Although for outer planet missions a different architecture would probably be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Probably not, not with orbital refueling, anyway. You’d essentially be throwing away the center core when you could get the same result (a fully or near-fully fueled Starship in orbit) for (presumably) less by just launching multiple tankers. No need to throw it away, let’s say that all 3 boosters are landed back at the launch site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, sh1pman said: No need to throw it away, let’s say that all 3 boosters are landed back at the launch site. Even moreso, then. Remember, they ditched the idea of RTLS-ing the FH center core because it's just not worth the performance hit. Even if you recovered the SH core downrange, what's the benefit? The only advantage I could see in this stack vs orbital refueling is if you had some time-sensitive, Armageddon-esque, ERMAGHERD WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE let's launch B-list celebrities to save us! type disaster and needed that thing up there now. But you'd still need months or years to develop it, during which time you could refuel multiple Starships, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 56 minutes ago, sh1pman said: Found this render. Does this configuration make any sense? Is there a mission that would benefit from this? No, it's a meme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, sh1pman said: Found this render. Does this configuration make any sense? Is there a mission that would benefit from this? Makes no sense. Boosters still all separate at ~2-2.5 km/s, so the upper stage is going exactly the same velocity it would be going with just the one stage, and still burns all propellants to make orbit. If it was the tanker variant (not shown) then it might get more to orbit, but it would not get 3X more to orbit, so why not just fly the same booster 3 times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerbolExplorer Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, sh1pman said: Found this render. Does this configuration make any sense? Is there a mission that would benefit from this? I doubt that droneship landing for Super Heavy will be a thing, so let’s assume that all 3 boosters RTLS. it has more boosters so it defenetly has benefits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I mean, if the mission in question was some billionaire paying SpaceX to make a Super Heavy Heavy for the meme and because it looks cool, then that configuration would definitely be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 6:08 AM, Starman4308 said: It's an iron-nickel-chromium alloy noted for corrosion resistance and resilience to temperature and pressure. It's commonly used in aerospace applications as a result; it's hard to work with, but quite robust. Yeah. See also Hastelloy, which is the other major "super-alloy" used for similar applications. Hastelloy has molybdenum instead of chromium (mo is right below cr on the periodic table, so they share many chemical properties). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Ultimate Steve said: I mean, if the mission in question was some billionaire paying SpaceX to make a Super Heavy Heavy for the meme and because it looks cool, then that configuration would definitely be useful. Which billionaire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Xd the great said: Which billionaire? Jeff Who, of course. To slow him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.