Ultimate Steve Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I heard that it massive gas deposits suddenly releasing, creating lots of tiny bubbles, drastically lowering the density of the water, causing ships to sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rakaydos said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave Looks like none of the confirmed events were in the triangle, but it is a plausible explanation for "supernatural" missing ships. Let me repeat: there is no evidence that "the triangle" even exists. There are no records of an unusual number or percentage of disappearances, sinkings, or other accidents in the area. In fact, it's surprising how few there are because it's a very heavily trafficked area and it's in the Atlantic hurricane track. So before anyone can come up with an explanation for "the triangle", they have to first establish that there is even anything to explain. That has never been established. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricktoberfest Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Rakaydos said: Science actually figured out what was going on in the triangle, you know. The way the coastlines are arranged, wave action would regularly have a nasty resonance, and make a wave three times the size of the regular swell. A ship that can handle a 10'swell doesn't do as great in a 30' swell, especially if they never saw it coming. And so how would this explain aircraft disappearing? Not that I believe in the Bermuda Triangle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) ^^^ that. I can draw triangles all over the ocean(s) with wrecks in them. Edited June 19, 2019 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 56 minutes ago, Ricktoberfest said: And so how would this explain aircraft disappearing? Not that I believe in the Bermuda Triangle. 1 hour ago, Ultimate Steve said: I heard that it massive gas deposits suddenly releasing, creating lots of tiny bubbles, drastically lowering the density of the water, causing ships to sink. I read about methane releases from hydrate deposits too. An aircraft flying into a rising methane cloud (which would have had time to mix with air) could easily spark an explosion, knocking the aircraft out of the sky. I believe the phenomenon was also supposed to cause magnetic disturbances of the sort sometimes reported in the mythical triangle. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Meanwhile, back at the ranch on topic... BC Starship gets some contrast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Any ideas on what that could be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, StrandedonEarth said: I read about methane releases from hydrate deposits too. An aircraft flying into a rising methane cloud (which would have had time to mix with air) could easily spark an explosion, knocking the aircraft out of the sky. I believe the phenomenon was also supposed to cause magnetic disturbances of the sort sometimes reported in the mythical triangle. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence More likely the area is highly trafficked, fairly short routes so you don't take them serious but its over open water. The most famous flight accidents was an group of fighter planes back in the 40's. Thight formation following the leader, now play some chicken like waiting to pull out of dives or fly very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Unless SpaceX went back in time to start the Bermuda Triangle thing, please get back on-topic, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: Any ideas on what that could be? Hmmm, no I don’t! I thought I already saw pics with the nose on, did they take it off again o_0 something worth mentioning is the lack of window structure so far. All the mock-ups I’ve seen have a large window area in the front but there is no evidence of them in the water tanks. I doubt it would be structurally sound to just cut them out of the skin so that’s interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: Any ideas on what that could be? heat tiles? =================== I wonder what the odds are that that STP-2 gets delayed 4 days and 2 hours, thereabouts...Maybe I could watch from the stratosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dale Christopher said: Hmmm, no I don’t! I thought I already saw pics with the nose on, did they take it off again o_0 something worth mentioning is the lack of window structure so far. All the mock-ups I’ve seen have a large window area in the front but there is no evidence of them in the water tanks. I doubt it would be structurally sound to just cut them out of the skin so that’s interesting. 1 minute ago, cubinator said: heat tiles? =================== I wonder what the odds are that that STP-2 gets delayed 4 days and 2 hours, thereabouts...Maybe I could watch from the stratosphere. People on the NSF forum are now saying that it is a thin protective covering, probably akin to that plastic wrap covering new sheets of glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Dale Christopher said: Hmmm, no I don’t! I thought I already saw pics with the nose on, did they take it off again o_0 Isn't that the booster/1st stage though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Dale Christopher said: something worth mentioning is the lack of window structure so far. All the mock-ups I’ve seen have a large window area in the front but there is no evidence of them in the water tanks. I doubt it would be structurally sound to just cut them out of the skin so that’s interesting. It’ll be a long time yet before we get windows. These two are strictly test vehicles, they won’t have cargo bays either. They’re only to test if the whole crazy idea actually works. 2 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: People on the NSF forum are now saying that it is a thin protective covering, probably akin to that plastic wrap covering new sheets of glass. That was my first thought, too, something they’ll buff off later. Tho it’s interesting they’re only using it now, and randomly in the middle. Also interesting: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It's not the first Falcon Heavy with flight proven boosters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hmmm... sorta reminds me of... Spoiler Maybe an instrument ring / sensor ring/ For gathering telemetry on structural performance? 1 hour ago, Geonovast said: It's not the first Falcon Heavy with flight proven boosters... Well, while the first Heavy used previously flown F9 boosters (B3? B4?) modified for use on FH Demo, I believe IIRC these boosters were B5's built for Heavy and first flown on the second FH mission. If they had hung on to the core from that mission, it would be flying this mission too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, StrandedonEarth said: Well, while the first Heavy used previously flown F9 boosters (B3? B4?) modified for use on FH Demo, I believe IIRC these boosters were B5's built for Heavy and first flown on the second FH mission. If they had hung on to the core from that mission, it would be flying this mission too. I understand it's the first B5 FH to fly with flight proven, but there's still a few issues - 1. That's not what it said. If it has said Block 5, I would have ignored it. 2. This is the third flight of a FH. Saying "It's the first to do X" has very little impact. It's like when they were all "This is the FIRST time we landed a FH center core!" After Arabsat, while landing the Center Core is something to be excited about, qualifying it with "First" doesn't mean much as it was literally only the second attempt ever. 3. Even if the Arabsat Center core survived, it would not be flying this mission. They were planning a new core for this one before Arabsat even launched. I believe it was a combination of the customer insisting, and the fact that they're not going to refly the first recovered center core so quickly, for inspection reasons. I'll try to dig up the source on that, Google Fu is failing as it's just returning results about it deciding to go for a swim. https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/03/falcon-heavy-starlink-headline-spacexs-manifest/ https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/space-exploration-technologies/no-booster-for-you-falcon-heavy-core-stage-topples-over-in-rough-seas/ Edited June 20, 2019 by Geonovast Sauce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CatastrophicFailure Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) And, it's good! Edited June 20, 2019 by CatastrophicFailure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 This launch should be pretty interesting. I'm wondering where any of the stage 2 burns might be visible from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/06/station-planning-new-crew-launch-dates/ Quote DM-2 is now tentatively planned for 15 November 2019. The flight would see NASA astronauts Bob Behnken and Doug Hurley perform a 7-day test flight of the Dragon capsule before returning to Earth on 22 November. This is from the latest mission planning (visiting vehicle) for ISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CatastrophicFailure Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hope she’s fast, those fairings must be coming down halfway to Africa. and they’d better bless the rains... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightside Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Should we be worried about Tropical Depression Andrea sitting right in the middle of the LZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 43 minutes ago, Nightside said: Should we be worried about Tropical Depression Andrea sitting right in the middle of the LZ? ? https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ Quote There are no tropical cyclones in the Atlantic at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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