RCgothic Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Spooky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Looks like we now know where the drippy slag from SN8 originated. Melty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 hours ago, RCgothic said: Spooky! Well the Apollo 16 CSM was named Casper so I’d say that spacecraft and ghosts (friendly or otherwise) have a storied history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wumpus Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, kerbiloid said: These Star Trek suits should be colored. Anything but red. Blue was science, and I engineering was red (didn't Scotty wear red? GIS shows him in a lot of red). So blue it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: Looks like we now know where the drippy slag from SN8 originated. Melty. Ok so the hot methane after cooling the engines burned trough the pipe, or more likely it was an leak and then an fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, magnemoe said: Ok so the hot methane after cooling the engines burned trough the pipe, or more likely it was an leak and then an fire. The metal itself probably ignited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 A quick explanation video by Scott Manley on how Crew-1 docking will work: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) Crew-1 docking stream: I'm not getting up stupidly early this time, I'll see what's happened in the morning. Edited November 16, 2020 by RealKerbal3x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Rocket Lab's launch site in the view of Crew Dragon earlier: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 SN9 gets to stand on its own six legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, RCgothic said: SN9 gets to stand on its own six legs. I'm beginning to see the striking taxonomical similarities between Starship and an insect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, cubinator said: I'm beginning to see the striking taxonomical similarities between Starship and an insect. Yeah that’s been bugging me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFUN Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 hours ago, KSK said: Yeah that’s been bugging me too. God, you're a pest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tater Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 So it was damage from the test fires. On the one hand they should have a better pad, on the other hand, there is no pad on the Moon or Mars. The stubby legs are clearly and issue since that's way closer to the ground (not even concrete) than the current pads are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, tater said: On the one hand they should have a better pad, on the other hand, there is no pad on the Moon or Mars. The stubby legs are clearly and issue since that's way closer to the ground (not even concrete) than the current pads are. This is why they included the auxiliary landing engines on Lunar Starship. But they're really needed for landing on Mars too, so I'm curious if (and how) they're going to incorporate those into the regular Starship design. I am glad it wasn't a major Raptor issue requiring significant redesign, though. Edited November 17, 2020 by RealKerbal3x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 53 minutes ago, tater said: So it was damage from the test fires. On the one hand they should have a better pad, on the other hand, there is no pad on the Moon or Mars. The stubby legs are clearly and issue since that's way closer to the ground (not even concrete) than the current pads are. So that's why we saw the sparks flying during the preceding test fire -- bits of martyte getting blasted to kingdom come and glowing white-hot. I love the euphemism -- "bad shutdown of Raptor." It melted. Or at least some part of its innards. 34 minutes ago, RealKerbal3x said: This is why they included the auxiliary landing engines on Lunar Starship. But they're really needed for landing on Mars too, so I'm curious if (and how) they're going to incorporate those into the regular Starship design. I am glad it wasn't a major Raptor issue requiring significant redesign, though. If you think about it, it might not be that big of an issue on Mars. No repeated firing and no big shards of material to be weakened over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: If you think about it, it might not be that big of an issue on Mars. No repeated firing and no big shards of material to be weakened over time. It still might be an issue for a landing/launch pad that's used often, once they get to that stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) So on the previous test-fire there was pad debris, it wasn't taken seriously enough, and it bit SN8 on the ass at the next firing. Also: That marginal cost is maybe 3 orders of magnitude better than SLS... Edited November 17, 2020 by RCgothic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikegarrison Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) On 11/16/2020 at 8:22 AM, wumpus said: Anything but red. Blue was science, and I engineering was red (didn't Scotty wear red? GIS shows him in a lot of red). So blue it is! Red was "support" -- engineering, security, communications, etc. Blue was science and medical. Yellow/Green (apparently the shirts were actually green but appeared yellow on TV) were for captain, helmsman, etc. When Kirk wore his dress uniform it was green, but apparently it was actually the same color as the regular uniform in normal lighting. But due to the different fabrics, the regular uniforms appeared gold-colored on TV while the dress uniform appeared green. Edited November 17, 2020 by mikegarrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 B1049 also going up again for the 7th time this weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Two launches on the same day from both coasts? With a seventh flight?? Awesome! Of course, I’ll be working... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolotiyeruki Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 hours ago, RCgothic said: That marginal cost is maybe 3 orders of magnitude better than SLS... Holy smokes, they're now expecting $1m per 100 tons? I.e. $10/kg? Last I heard it was $2m. That's going the opposite direction of what usually happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 7 hours ago, zolotiyeruki said: Holy smokes, they're now expecting $1m per 100 tons? I.e. $10/kg? Last I heard it was $2m. That's going the opposite direction of what usually happens. We’ll see. Expectation ≠ reality, and Starship failure rate is unknown beforehand. Also, in the absence of competing fully reusable rockets they can charge whatever they want for a Starship launch, up to F9-FH numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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