StrandedonEarth Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 8:26pm local time for FH launch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meecrob Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) @Geonovast "I doubt it considering the FH is fully expendable. It wouldn't need the landing pads. It was also supposed to launch days ago. Sending the boat out isn't something you can do on a whim. Takes days to get out there. " I mean the SES 03b launch...with regards to the NSF post stating that they can launch with the previous rocket "over the horizon" Edit: So I guess I'm not up to date; Are the FH side boosters expendable on this launch? it seems they could RTLS since there are no other range considerations today (not considering payload mass). I get the core is expendable, but I doubt they have 3 droneships in the Atlantic at once for the side boosters, plus the SES03b booster (which is where I feel I missed something). Edited April 28, 2023 by Meecrob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) The 2 coverages are going to overlap, lol. Maybe not, depends on if they deploy right after SECO-3 or wait. Edited April 28, 2023 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Falcon Heavy is fully expended? That's no fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 16 min Music, so streams overlapping, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Falcon Heavy abort Clock stopped at 59 seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Aww. Not even a HOLD? What could happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Don't know yet. Clock is now showing T-15 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 It doesn't want to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, AckSed said: It doesn't want to leave. Doesn't know how to swim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Scrubbity scrub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Coverage ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Oh well. Scrub is preferable to a fireball. Better luck next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codraroll Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Scotius said: Oh well. Scrub is preferable to a fireball. That's what the town council said when they canceled the municipal fireworks show on New Year's. "We have determined that the rockets may explode!" Saved them a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 12 hours ago, Scotius said: What could happen? It watched the previous launch. Needs a psychological assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) Read the whole of this thread: 3 engines out at Liftoff was intentional. Explosion at t+28 wasn't. Loss of comms. Loss of TVC leading to loss of control. FTS took too long to function, needs requalification. Didn't expect to destroy pad. Would have made it through staging with TVC operational. Next flight will be a repeat profile with no payload. Edited April 29, 2023 by RCgothic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 hour ago, RCgothic said: Read the whole of this thread: No kidding! Great info: thanks! Musk: Starship sliding laterally off the launchpad was "because of the engine failures." Musk: "There were 3 engines that we chose not to start," so that's why Super Heavy booster lifted off with 30 engines, "which is the minimum number of engines." The 3 engines "didn't explode," but just were not "healthy enough to bring them to full thrust so they were shut down" Musk: For the next flight, "we're going to start the engines faster and get off the pad faster." From engine start to moving Starship "was around 5 seconds, which is a really long time to be blasting the pad." Going to try to cut that time in half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 I think they need a thrust stand where they can do full-thrust, long-duration test firings of Super Heavy stages to properly learn how to startup all those engines and see that they'll work properly for extended periods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Brotoro said: I think they need a thrust stand where they can do full-thrust, long-duration test firings of Super Heavy stages to properly learn how to startup all those engines and see that they'll work properly for extended periods. Maybe an actively cooled flame diverter will allow this at Starbase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 FWIW, I have seen estimates that suggest SpaceX revenue is ~$2B/year. They have ~2 cargo and 2 crew missions a year, crew is ~$212M per (it's like $53M a seat, right?). Cargo is less. Other launches are fairly cheap, so it takes a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) A comment from pikabu.ru: "The rocketry evolution is moving from the expendable rockets and reusable launchpads to the reusable rockets and expendable launchpads." (c) Edited April 30, 2023 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 hour ago, kerbiloid said: A comment from pikabu.ru: "The rocketry evolution is moving from the expendable rockets and reusable launchpads to the reusable rockets and expendable launchpads." (c) Except first Starship launch was supposed to be expendable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 37 minutes ago, magnemoe said: Except first Starship launch was supposed to be expendable. And fly around as concrete slabs, and cover the New Pompeii Port Isabel with dust. Just as planned. The smashed tanks are also looking as they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 When you start with the baseline expectation that it likely will blow up on the pad... This is more in the direction of success than failure. Still... Wasn't pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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