purpleivan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 She's away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Finally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 She rides! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 So slow. So blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Crappy onboard cameras... And they are doing an entry burn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Not looking good on the booster side of things - Telemetry frozen. I think it should have landed by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Booster probably took a swim, not streaming is... weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) Literally skipped booster touchdown to say NG S2 in orbit. It is likely now a very fancy reef. Edit: Still, to reach orbit on your first try with a heavy-lift rocket is damn good. Edited January 16 by AckSed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AckSed Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 That's a point: relight of a second stage vastly expands the orbits you can reach; fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 How come they get to claim orbit with an atmospheric perigee but SpaceX doesn’t, lol. It’s all good, congrats to Blue. Horrible vid coverage post launch, but that ground footage of the launch was nice. Those engines and plume were stunning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, darthgently said: How come they get to claim orbit with an atmospheric perigee but SpaceX doesn’t, lol. It’s all good, congrats to Blue. Do they have an atmospheric perigee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: Do they have an atmospheric perigee? Pretty sure. They certainly declared orbit long before apogee and no mention of anything like a circulation or pe raising second burn. And mostly, their trajectory graphic geometry if mentally extrapolated just didn’t seem have a raised pe at all. But they certainly had the orbital energy as Starship has had so it’s all good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, darthgently said: Pretty sure. They certainly declared orbit long before apogee and no mention of anything like a circulation or pe raising second burn. And mostly, their trajectory graphic geometry if mentally extrapolated just didn’t seem have a raised pe at all. But they certainly had the orbital energy as Starship has had so it’s all good I posted their tweet where they said a second burn was gonna happen Their livestream is gone? No update on the second burn? Odd. So SES-2 should be soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 17 minutes ago, tater said: I posted their tweet where they said a second burn was gonna happen Their livestream is gone? No update on the second burn? Odd. So SES-2 should be soon. I heard that, but they hadn’t done that burn yet and SpaceX got booed quite a bit for not being in “real” orbit. Given how much grief SpaceX got for not relighting starship vacuum engines for earlier flights it is strange they’d cut the stream before doing so. (I’m all out of likes so everyone realize I haven’t seen a post tonight I wouldn’t have if I could have) Edited January 16 by darthgently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I thought it looked almost slo-mo; wasn’t just me I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuessingEveryDay Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) Ah, finally back inside. I went outside to try and spot it but there were too many clouds and it started raining as I was walking back to my apartment T~T Horrifying as it is 40° F where I am in Florida. Edited January 16 by GuessingEveryDay gah, editing on a phone is tricky enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargamel Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 hours ago, darthgently said: I thought it looked almost slo-mo; wasn’t just me I guess I thought it looked awful slow on launch. The “you will not go to space today” thought did cross my mind. But I’ll just work under the assumption that they were keeping the engines throttles down to simulate a heavy launch with a low twr and to keep the stress off the engines? Maybe wanted to stress test the gimbals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 So booster is dead, not too surprised, but reaching orbit caught me off guard! Congrats to Blue Origin and better luck on the next landing attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pthigrivi Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 7 hours ago, darthgently said: Horrible vid coverage post launch, but that ground footage of the launch was nice. Those engines and plume were stunning Yeah the plume and mach diamonds were gorgeous. Happy to see BO show a bit of life. If Stoke can catch up we might even see some competing second stage strategies in the next few years, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) This may be relevant to booster ghosting the world Edited January 16 by darthgently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pthigrivi Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Yeah maybe related to overall sluggishness off the pad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 As for the TWR, they may have been throttled down. That would make sense, but with only seven engines that TWR makes for a dramatic hypothetical engine out scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Observations about launch. Coverage General patter: Slightly better than other BO coverage, entirely from times when they went to rocket noise and launch control, minus talking heads (the worst offender being Ariane Cornell, who is painful to listen to for extended periods). Post launch, a lack of transparency about what was going on. They announced they lost the booster, but they should have prepared for that high probability event so they'd know what to say in a timely way—shrugging it off as the reach goal it was. Cameras: Decent ground shots during stream, rocket cams effectively useless. Falcon 9 first launch, almost 15 years ago had better cameras, so it's not just being spoiled by Starlink on Starship. Unofficial cameras? Did they even let the usual space photographers place cameras? I have yet to see any really good images posted... if so, WHY would they not allow this? (fear if it blew up of good shots of it exploding?). No camera view from the landing pad? The milestones were scrolling along SpaceX style (smart, they came up with a pretty ideal way to show progress, worth copying), but it locked up a few times. Actual results: Liftoff was really slow, TWR of ~1.2 with no meaningful payload. What gives? Would be nice to know what happened to booster. The image above seems to show entry burn, but I have seen people saying it was quite late (26s). Would like to see final orbit data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Spoiler 1st F9 for comparison using ancient streaming tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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