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Literally skipped booster touchdown to say NG S2 in orbit.

It is likely now a very fancy reef.

Edit: Still, to reach orbit on your first try with a heavy-lift rocket is damn good.

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How come they get to claim orbit with an atmospheric perigee but SpaceX doesn’t, lol.  It’s all good, congrats to Blue.

 Horrible vid coverage post launch, but that ground footage of the launch was nice.  Those engines and plume were stunning

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2 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said:

Do they have an atmospheric perigee?

Pretty sure. They certainly declared orbit long before apogee and no mention of anything like a circulation or pe raising second burn.  And mostly, their trajectory graphic geometry if mentally extrapolated just didn’t seem have a raised pe at all.  But they certainly had the orbital energy as Starship has had so it’s all good

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7 minutes ago, darthgently said:

Pretty sure. They certainly declared orbit long before apogee and no mention of anything like a circulation or pe raising second burn.  And mostly, their trajectory graphic geometry if mentally extrapolated just didn’t seem have a raised pe at all.  But they certainly had the orbital energy as Starship has had so it’s all good

I posted their tweet where they said a second burn was gonna happen

 

Their livestream is gone? No update on the second burn? Odd.

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So SES-2 should be soon.

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17 minutes ago, tater said:

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I posted their tweet where they said a second burn was gonna happen

 

Their livestream is gone? No update on the second burn? Odd.

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So SES-2 should be soon.

I heard that, but they hadn’t done that burn yet and SpaceX got booed quite a bit for not being in “real” orbit.  
Given how much grief SpaceX got for not relighting starship vacuum engines for earlier flights it is strange they’d cut the stream before doing so.

(I’m all out of likes so everyone realize I haven’t seen a post tonight I wouldn’t have if I could have)

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Ah, finally back inside. I went outside to try and spot it but there were too many clouds and it started raining as I was walking back to my apartment T~T

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Horrifying as it is 40° F where I am in Florida.

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gah, editing on a phone is tricky enough.
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3 hours ago, darthgently said:

I thought it looked almost slo-mo; wasn’t just me I guess

 

I thought it looked awful slow on launch.   The “you will not go to space today” thought did cross my mind.    
 

But I’ll just work under the assumption that they were keeping the engines throttles down to simulate a heavy launch with a low twr and to keep the stress off the engines?   Maybe wanted to stress test the gimbals? 

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7 hours ago, darthgently said:

 Horrible vid coverage post launch, but that ground footage of the launch was nice.  Those engines and plume were stunning

Yeah the plume and mach diamonds were gorgeous. Happy to see BO show a bit of life. If Stoke can catch up we might even see some competing second stage strategies in the next few years,

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Observations about launch.

Coverage

General patter: Slightly better than other BO coverage, entirely from times when they went to rocket noise and launch control, minus talking heads (the worst offender being Ariane Cornell, who is painful to listen to for extended periods). Post launch, a lack of transparency about what was going on. They announced they lost the booster, but they should have prepared for that high probability event so they'd know what to say in a timely way—shrugging it off as the reach goal it was.

Cameras: Decent ground shots during stream, rocket cams effectively useless. Falcon 9 first launch, almost 15 years ago had better cameras, so it's not just being spoiled by Starlink on Starship. Unofficial cameras? Did they even let the usual space photographers place cameras? I have yet to see any really good images posted... if so, WHY would they not allow this? (fear if it blew up of good shots of it exploding?). No camera view from the landing pad?

The milestones were scrolling along SpaceX style (smart, they came up with a pretty ideal way to show progress, worth copying), but it locked up a few times.

Actual results:

Liftoff was really slow, TWR of ~1.2 with no meaningful payload. What gives?

Would be nice to know what happened to booster. The image above seems to show entry burn, but I have seen people saying it was quite late (26s).

Would like to see final orbit data.

 

 

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