tater Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 @tater, I did not know you could do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 53 minutes ago, DDE said: @tater, I did not know you could do that. Ran the web inspector and pulled the URLs out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: Doesn't seem to describe what ROSS will be. Btw about the Iron Sky mentioned there. At 00:20+. Spoiler That's together with the nuclear tug Zeus/Nucleon (see the ion engine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunlitZelkova Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Prior to this, how seriously was Russia considering extending their ISS mission to 2030? I am curious whether this is a case of “the Russians bowing out early” or “the other international partners choosing to go on longer”. Unless this is related to current events… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) As it was previously said by the Russian officials, in the next two years they were expecting further equipment failures leading to inability of the Russian segment to keep functioning properly, and making to leave the ISS chat anyway. So, probably it will keep working while it's possible. A year, or two, or five. Until the cracks get too wide and physically separate the segment from ISS, when there will be no difference if it's docked or not. Edited July 26, 2022 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, SunlitZelkova said: Prior to this, how seriously was Russia considering extending their ISS mission to 2030? I recall several waves of such publications. This isn't a new or unexpected decision. Definitely at least as old as the cracks saga... but probably not older than 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) Also how to stay there when somebody pierces the tyres turns a docked ship into a colander by drilling 2 mm holes in it. Edited July 26, 2022 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: somebody The technicians at baikonur* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, Beccab said: The technicians at baikonur* Drilling and then blaming the technicians at baikonur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: Drilling and then blaming the technicians at baikonur. Failing to make any meaningful quality control for lack of funds (to the point Nauka very nearly launched without insulation and a Proton lifted off with a DUS mounted upside down, not to mention phobos-grunt and similar embarrassing QC failures) and then blaming an astronaut for the sole reason that she was a woman* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 This is not a reason to drill the holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codraroll Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Well, here's to the end of the Russian crewed space program, I guess. Given how Orel has fared over the past decade, and the general state of things, there's no way in heck they can have space station hardware flying by 2024. Without access to the ISS, there's literally nowhere to go. The Chinese space station flies at a too low inclination, and the Soyuz is too cramped for any meaningful orbital crew activities to be conducted in it. The remaining option is to hitch a ride with the Chinese, I guess, but that would require launching on Chinese vessels from China, possibly a rideshare with a Chinese mission, where the mission language, to put it like this, probably won't be Russian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXBLOX Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I get back after, like, three months away from this forum and this is what I see. Now I know why I love this place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Codraroll said: Given how Orel has fared over the past decade Currently the supply ships are Soyuz and Progress. No need in Oryol to get in LEO, and it's at least a decade till the lunar flights get required. 4 hours ago, Codraroll said: Without access to the ISS, there's literally nowhere to go. Some country just had a decade rest from its own spaceflights, iirc. But keep hoping that Starship will ever fly, or LOP-G/Orion get to the halo orbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: keep hoping that Starship will ever fly Oh, I will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, JoeSchmuckatelli said: Oh, I will! I mean, to space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, kerbiloid said: I mean, to space. So do I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Never believe any Russian spacecraft announcement until there's hardware, and even then it's probably best to wait until it's on a launchpad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Do you still believe any announcement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Russian ones? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 How much money have you invested in them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) https://www-rbc-ru.translate.goog/technology_and_media/27/07/2022/62e183289a79476aec5dc28f?from=newsfeed&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru Quote Reuters learned about Russia's promise to stay on the ISS until 2028 Mwahahah. Somebody may cork the champagne back. Upd. https://www-rbc-ru.translate.goog/technology_and_media/27/07/2022/62e183289a79476aec5dc28f?from=from_main_6&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru Edited July 27, 2022 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 48 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: https://www-rbc-ru.translate.goog/technology_and_media/27/07/2022/62e183289a79476aec5dc28f?from=newsfeed&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru Mwahahah. Somebody may cork the champagne back. Upd. https://www-rbc-ru.translate.goog/technology_and_media/27/07/2022/62e183289a79476aec5dc28f?from=from_main_6&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru That's the pesky "after 2024" bit I was wondering about. Interesting how 2028 has also been floated as approximate best-case timeline for ROSS hub launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, DDE said: Interesting how 2028 has also been floated "Which year is 2028th?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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