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MLM (3R) launch occurred on time at GMT 202/14:58:24.958.  Ascent was nominal.  Deployment could not be confirmed for Kurs-A antenna 2АСФ1-М-ВКА №1 and for the MLM nadir port docking target due to insufficient telemetry.  Both ИКВ infrared horizon sensors, and a number of ДПС thrusters, generated failure messages during the motion control system test on Orbit 1; all were inhibited for the time-being.  MCC-M is troubleshooting these issues.  Additional details will be provided at the end of the MLM day.

 

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2 hours ago, tater said:

 

A couple of 'dumb' questions from the Jarhead:

1. I presume that module is computer guided / remote guided.  I know SX has been sending their craft to the ISS that way... but I thought that was a relatively recent development.  How long now have ISS nations been sending remotely piloted / computer guided ships to ISS?  (Dumbass me just remembers Shuttle stuff and assumed the RU craft were piloted.)

2. These views of Earth show really excellent images of the differing heights of Earth's clouds.  Yet recent images (amazing, though they may be) of Jupiter don't show this level of detail when looking at Jupiter's clouds (I've seen some cool images with lightning storms).  Is this because ISS, etc. are so low compared to Juno?

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34 minutes ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

1. I presume that module is computer guided / remote guided.  I know SX has been sending their craft to the ISS that way... but I thought that was a relatively recent development.  How long now have ISS nations been sending remotely piloted / computer guided ships to ISS?  (Dumbass me just remembers Shuttle stuff and assumed the RU craft were piloted.)

The Russians have been flying the unmanned Progress since 1978. They literally invented automated docking.

34 minutes ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

2. These views of Earth show really excellent images of the differing heights of Earth's clouds.  Yet recent images (amazing, though they may be) of Jupiter don't show this level of detail when looking at Jupiter's clouds (I've seen some cool images with lightning storms).  Is this because ISS, etc. are so low compared to Juno?

Low alt for sure. What feels really low on Jupiter is still pretty high, have to see what Juno's orbit looks like.

Right now the perijove is 4200 km.

This is from ~7000km:

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5 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

How long now have ISS nations been sending remotely piloted / computer guided ships to ISS? 

All of Mir was built through automated docking.

After Beregovoy's failure, I believe the Soviets actually resolved to automated docking as the default.

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The very first picture
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The bottom-right corner

"ИН: ТЕСТ ДПС"
("instruction:  test DPS", I guess)

What the Russian spacecraft is doing first after inserting into orbit?

Right, it looks if any ДПС is around.

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9 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

1. I presume that module is computer guided / remote guided.  I know SX has been sending their craft to the ISS that way... but I thought that was a relatively recent development.  How long now have ISS nations been sending remotely piloted / computer guided ships to ISS?  (Dumbass me just remembers Shuttle stuff and assumed the RU craft were piloted.)

 

The world's first automatic docking of two spacecraft "Kosmos-186" and "Kosmos-188" on October 30, 1967 . The Kosmos-186 and Kosmos-188 spacecraft are actually prototypes of the Soyuz and Progress spacecraft. The Soyuz spacecraft can be both manned and unmanned. Priority is given to automatic docking, but if there are any problems, the pilot can also dock in manual mode.

You can read it here:

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-7k-ok-kosmos-186-188.html

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33 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:

And that's how they rammed Mir.

Mir was rammed manually. When remotely controlled the Progress docking.

"On June 25, 1997, the Progress M-34 transport ship collided with the docked Spectrum module during manual docking in the operator control mode. The collision occurred due to an error during testing of the new control and approach system"

There is a little bit about this collision here:

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/mir_spektr.html

 

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