DDE Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 No comms with, or status on, the primary payload. https://www.rbc.ru/society/28/11/2017/5a1d23689a7947321acca71f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Roscosmos ground control failed to find the tug-payload stack in target orbit. https://www.roscosmos.ru/24385/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Anonymous source: someone botched the vector for the first Fregat burn, Meteor currently exploring the bottom of the Atlantic: http://www.interfax.ru/russia/589367 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightfury Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Trying to watch the launch was hard.... first not found a stream, then the link in the forum doesn't work and then watch it 50s too late Hopefully they get connection again, would be bad to lose a satellite and cube-sats due to communication issues.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 All sources have largely written off the launch. *sigh*... https://m.lenta.ru/news/2017/11/28/lezutnanebo/ “Launch Failure Blamed on Inadequate Consecration by Bishop” GYYYYYYYAH IVAN WHERE IS MY CHAINSWORD!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 hours ago, DDE said: Anonymous source: someone botched the vector for the first Fregat burn, Meteor currently exploring the bottom of the Atlantic: http://www.interfax.ru/russia/589367 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fregat#August_2014_failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Aww. Note to self, don't jinx it next time. So, we're looking at the stage pointing the wrong way. Like in KSP when you forget to "control from here" on the forward facing part, but probably not as extreme as that, and it is awfully similar to the 2014 failure @PB666 referenced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignath Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just going to drop this here...potentially Meteor re-entering: https://twitter.com/ThatJetsetGirl/status/935569848507170817/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Ignath said: Just going to drop this here...potentially Meteor re-entering: https://twitter.com/ThatJetsetGirl/status/935569848507170817/ And the sattelite was called "Meteor." Ba-Dum-Tiss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: And the sattelite was called "Meteor." Ba-Dum-Tiss! A very appropriate name! I still blame the bishop though. He probably only consecrated the Soyuz rocket and skipped the Fregat. The machine spirit became unhappy, and that's how you get failed launches. Edited November 29, 2017 by sh1pman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 8:22 AM, Ultimate Steve said: Aww. Note to self, don't jinx it next time. So, we're looking at the stage pointing the wrong way. Like in KSP when you forget to "control from here" on the forward facing part, but probably not as extreme as that, and it is awfully similar to the 2014 failure @PB666 referenced. Hit "X" key, set course to retrograde, hope your reaction wheels are zeroed out and ready to go, hit "Y". Then of course your are free to sip your vodka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Makes one wonder if a sensor didn’t get jammed in upside-down again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Lavochkin now says someone literally forgot to program the nav system for Vostochny... despite Fregat already flying out of two locations on a regular basis. http://www.russianspaceweb.com/meteor-m2-1.html#culprit Just now, StrandedonEarth said: Makes one wonder if a sensor didn’t get jammed in upside-down again.... So... yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, DDE said: Lavochkin now says someone literally forgot to program the nav system for Vostochny... despite Fregat already flying out of two locations on a regular basis. http://www.russianspaceweb.com/meteor-m2-1.html#culprit So... yeah. So it had wrong inclination settings it seems? Looks like it tried to “correct” its inclination instead of burning prograde. What a stupid way to botch a launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFastJellyfish Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 How unfortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 hours ago, DDE said: Lavochkin now says someone literally forgot to program the nav system for Vostochny... despite Fregat already flying out of two locations on a regular basis. I think their insurance companies are going to do quite a bit of yelling at someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Sounds like at least two people need to be fired. Too much vodka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 hours ago, PB666 said: I think their insurance companies are going to do quite a bit of yelling at someone. At this point, I really wonder why Sogaz and Ingosstrakh aren’t more involved with the manufacturers. How hard would it be to get TS-CI clearance to get inspectors onto the factory floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 9 hours ago, sh1pman said: and skipped the Fregat. Fregat is on the very top of the rocket... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightside Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 It is surprising that the reason for the failure came out so quickly. I would expect to learn this much later or ... never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, Nightside said: It is surprising that the reason for the failure came out so quickly. I would expect to learn this much later or ... never. TBH none of the above is to any degree official. They’ll still run a formal comission that will rubber-stamp Lavochkin’s admission of guilt five years from now. Or they’ll designate the programmer a Ukrainian spy. Can’t tell with our guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 almost feels like it would be safer going with the trampoline at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 5 hours ago, insert_name said: almost feels like it would be safer going with the trampoline at this point Ouch. https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://m.lenta.ru/news/2015/12/29/noga/&usg=ALkJrhj8TVZRmUkRAqosfwPe_e5aa_pPlw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightside Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 @DDE, interesting article. It is fascinating to hear about how people relate with technology. Did you see this one from the same site? God helps the Russians to fly into space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayer Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Strange how a society with state sponsored atheism would turn to magicians one generation later. Lenin probably didn't expect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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