Spaceception Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Entropian said: Wow, compared to the $50 million SpaceX got that seems pretty disproportionate. What's their reason for giving ULA so much more profitssssssss? SpaceX is doing it anyway, and are throwing a decent amount of their own money into it, but ULA (Boeing) wants assurance that they'll get something out of it? Idk, I'm just being a little tongue in cheek. Maybe the hardware differences between Hydrolox and Metholox, and SpaceX is willing to be leaner on top of that. But ~$30 million isn't that big a difference compared to the Lunar lander proposal funding. Edited October 15, 2020 by Spaceception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 It's also probably going to cost ULA more to do the demo than SpaceX considering the projected costs of Starship and Vulcan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meecrob Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Scotius said: Understood. Pumping liquid hydrogen from one ship to another - IN SPACE - does pose some interesting engineering problems. Like leak-proofing the armature to minimize propellant losses etc. Additionally, the flow rate of propellant when re-fueling the ISS is entirely too low to use the same method for larger tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 21 hours ago, Meecrob said: Additionally, the flow rate of propellant when re-fueling the ISS is entirely too low to use the same method for larger tanks. Don't they just click the "in" button and watch the numbers change? That's what I do in KSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sevenperforce Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 9:51 PM, Meecrob said: Additionally, the flow rate of propellant when re-fueling the ISS is entirely too low to use the same method for larger tanks. Don't they have to use bladders for that, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tater Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 ULA coverage live in under 40 minutes 5:24 EST is current launch time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) Anyone have a clue why the NROL-101 patch has elvish script? Why Tolkien? EDIT: Turns out that it translates to "goodness persists", like the words above it in the stream background. Does anyone know the significance? Edited November 13, 2020 by Clamp-o-Tron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: Anyone have a clue why the NROL-101 patch has elvish script? Why Tolkien? EDIT: Turns out that it translates to "goodness persists", like the words above it in the stream background. Does anyone know the significance? I don't know, but I do know that the NRO loves to be cryptic and or misleading with their mission patches. I don't have a source for this, but if I remember right, they used to be really clever, but then someone cracked the "code" on one of the patches and figured out what a spy satellite was for or something, so now most of what they put on the patches are red herrings trying to look like clever allusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wumpus Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 19 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: I don't know, but I do know that the NRO loves to be cryptic and or misleading with their mission patches. I don't have a source for this, but if I remember right, they used to be really clever, but then someone cracked the "code" on one of the patches and figured out what a spy satellite was for or something, so now most of what they put on the patches are red herrings trying to look like clever allusions. It probably has something to do with the "Perseverance" name given to crew-1. I'm guessing that it also means that they are getting much closer to the all-seeing eye of Mordor (but that's *every* NRO mission, so little new). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 If you have ever played Civ VI, it is very clear that the "launch earth satellite" rocket is an Atlas V. I've gotta say, SpaceX is so much better with their PR production values. Watching a SpaceX launch stream versus a ULA launch stream is like watching a Hollywood movie versus a college school project video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 15 hours ago, mikegarrison said: Watching a SpaceX launch stream versus a ULA launch stream is like watching a Hollywood movie versus a college school project video. That's because it is a college school project video. All those interns, you know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 ULA now have at least 2 BE-4s at their factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, RCgothic said: ULA now have at least 2 BE-4s at their factory. Pathfinders. Ie: not flight articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 If we call them SN1 and SN2 would that be too snarky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 8 hours ago, RCgothic said: If we call them SN1 and SN2 would that be too snarky? Raptor SN2 was originally intended to fly. These won't. So that wouldn't be snarky enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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