Naval Warfare

[Sidestrafe2462]

no, its too unstable

although yeah, on-site strategy would be cool

[Sidestrafe2462]

If anyone wants a link to the carrier, tell me and ill put it up

Ok I have completed a frigate to escort things:

im going to pit it against the corvettes

[Sidestrafe2462]

By all rights the Avenger (my ship) should have won but the cannons were being glitchy. It still did a hell lotta damage tho, and it SANK! 

 

Edited December 3, 2017 by Sidestrafe2462
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[Sidestrafe2462]

then I fought a second battle between my revised Avenger and 2 Renegades (the lag was too intense)

 

Top speed is 39 m/s, will take some hits

its also now a crusier

going now to test my aa defenses

[Sidestrafe2462]

 

[MiffedStarfish]

8 hours ago, TwinKerbal said:

Have any of y'all considered running this on DMP?  We could get some cool results if we got it to work.

It doesn’t work at all. When I tried combat vs a friend with dmp he appeared in about one frame every minute, and half the time he was in the floor. Even if it did work, it dosent send updates 2 ways so damage is client side.

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That looks familiar...

do you have a download link?

Edited December 3, 2017 by MiffedStarfish

[Piatzin]

You guys sure seem to like pitting my AA corvettes against ships designed to fight other ships

@Sidestrafe2462 Nice cruiser, though the 'light' part may be a tad unjustified. It took a lot of abuse before going down

@Eidahlil Wow, those Sleds were super effective  I think the one that was destroyed took off flying and then crashed. My ships did nothing

Edited December 3, 2017 by Earthlinger

[MiffedStarfish]

Can there be a rule about using AI pilots on ships? I would be against them, as though they do add variety to how the ships move in battle, they tend to throw battleships around like speedboats, and don’t fire weapons until very close to the target.

[Piatzin]

31 minutes ago, MiffedStarfish said:

Can there be a rule about using AI pilots on ships? I would be against them, as though they do add variety to how the ships move in battle, they tend to throw battleships around like speedboats, and don’t fire weapons until very close to the target.

Sure :) What do you suggest though?

[MiffedStarfish]

Well, the AI does handle things like speedboats well, it just dosent do large battleships and things. In the corvettes vs sleds video, you see the corvette basically throwing itself around, using roll to steer. That can capsize ships with thinner hulls, so I’d suggest using them for things under 10 or 15m in all dimensions, but not using them for anything larger.

[Eidahlil]

1 hour ago, Earthlinger said:

You guys sure seem to like pitting my AA corvettes against ships designed to fight other ships

@Eidahlil Wow, those Sleds were super effective  I think the one that was destroyed took off flying and then crashed. My ships did nothing

Let's be honest, those Renegade corvettes are awesome, of course we'd use them every chance we get. (Though I did strip off the lasers, cause those are no fun...)

I actually completely missed the sled's destruction, could be an Abrams round, could be a maneuvering error. I'd guess the former, because if it crashed there usually wouldn't be so much debris, it would either lose air intakes and engines, or get completely destroyed.

I wanted to say that they seemed rather stable to me, but now I'm trying this again, and I have no idea how they managed to stay level on the water that time. Scratch that, don't test them with FAR installed. They're quite stable, and mostly don't wipe out randomly. Mostly. I can post it, but it has a custom AI part, and is quite useless without it.  

27 minutes ago, MiffedStarfish said:

Well, the AI does handle things like speedboats well, it just dosent do large battleships and things. In the corvettes vs sleds video, you see the corvette basically throwing itself around, using roll to steer. That can capsize ships with thinner hulls, so I’d suggest using them for things under 10 or 15m in all dimensions, but not using them for anything larger.

Actually in that video I'm using a custom AI which I'm testing. If you're referring to the yaw wobble, yes, I'm no good at PID controllers.

If to what it does at 1:05, it quite meant to do that, as the corvettes are set to do a broadside attack, so they can bring all their turrets to bear. And since they are very stable, I've allowed them to be aggressive with controls, though if one had a less stable ship, one could make it drive less recklessly. Here's an example of them just driving around, and they seem quite OK to me.

Sorry if it was unclear about the AI, I think I mentioned it a few pages back, easy to miss though. Though if somebody wants to (help me) test the AI, I can probably package it up for download. I think the cc-by-sa license permits that. 

[Piatzin]

These are slightly better at ship-on-ship combat than the corvettes:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/au2cgp69nt50347/Frigate.craft?dl=0

80 parts. (They are modified frigates)

Edited December 3, 2017 by Earthlinger

[Eidahlil]

6 minutes ago, Earthlinger said:

These are slightly better at ship-on-ship combat than the corvettes:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/au2cgp69nt50347/Frigate.craft?dl=0

80 parts. (They are modified frigates)

For some weird reason, they crash my game when I try to spawn them in with vesselmover. From the runway is fine, but vesselmover causes them to go into orbit and then crash. Sooo I haven't been using them much.

It also happened with the previous version of the Frigate. So if somebody else is having this problem too, let me know, I'll submit a bug report, but for now I'll assume it's just some silliness in my installation.

[Piatzin]

10 minutes ago, Eidahlil said:

For some weird reason, they crash my game when I try to spawn them in with vesselmover

I thought that was just me lol

The ships are haunted jinxed cursed 

[Sidestrafe2462]

7 hours ago, MiffedStarfish said:

It doesn’t work at all. When I tried combat vs a friend with dmp he appeared in about one frame every minute, and half the time he was in the floor. Even if it did work, it dosent send updates 2 ways so damage is client side.

That looks familiar...

do you have a download link?

for the avenger or for the castellum? no for the castellum and that ship was 100% made by me, just with my own internals. The only real similarity is the float method, I was looking for one.

3 hours ago, Eidahlil said:

Let's be honest, those Renegade corvettes are awesome, of course we'd use them every chance we get. (Though I did strip off the lasers, cause those are no fun...)

I actually completely missed the sled's destruction, could be an Abrams round, could be a maneuvering error. I'd guess the former, because if it crashed there usually wouldn't be so much debris, it would either lose air intakes and engines, or get completely destroyed.

I wanted to say that they seemed rather stable to me, but now I'm trying this again, and I have no idea how they managed to stay level on the water that time. Scratch that, don't test them with FAR installed. They're quite stable, and mostly don't wipe out randomly. Mostly. I can post it, but it has a custom AI part, and is quite useless without it.  

Actually in that video I'm using a custom AI which I'm testing. If you're referring to the yaw wobble, yes, I'm no good at PID controllers.

If to what it does at 1:05, it quite meant to do that, as the corvettes are set to do a broadside attack, so they can bring all their turrets to bear. And since they are very stable, I've allowed them to be aggressive with controls, though if one had a less stable ship, one could make it drive less recklessly. Here's an example of them just driving around, and they seem quite OK to me.

Sorry if it was unclear about the AI, I think I mentioned it a few pages back, easy to miss though. Though if somebody wants to (help me) test the AI, I can probably package it up for download. I think the cc-by-sa license permits that. 

I wondered why my Avenger wanted to take off so badly..........

[MiffedStarfish]

For the Avenger, I'd like to test it out.

[Sidestrafe2462]

ok! give me a sec......

here we are! test it out for me, will ya?

 

The Avenger Class Light Cruiser

For pics see vids and images above

The Aveger: a deadly warship, used in hunter-killer roles and more importanly, escort, hence the amount of AA armnaments.

https://kerbalx.com/Sidestrafe2462/Avenger-Class-Light-Crusier

461 parts, top speed is 39 m/s

[Sidestrafe2462]

6 hours ago, Earthlinger said:

You guys sure seem to like pitting my AA corvettes against ships designed to fight other ships

@Sidestrafe2462 Nice cruiser, though the 'light' part may be a tad unjustified. It took a lot of abuse before going down

@Eidahlil Wow, those Sleds were super effective  I think the one that was destroyed took off flying and then crashed. My ships did nothing

Thanks! your AA corvettes are taking down my cruisers at roughly even odds! Its not that bad! watches as they pour 3000 rounds into a carrier and fail to hurt it* 

[Piatzin]

1 hour ago, Earthlinger said:

For some weird reason, they crash my game when I try to spawn them in with vesselmover

I will try to rebuild them sometime tomorrow

[Sidestrafe2462]

did you just quote yourself?!!

and if your corvettes are AA my crusiers are even more so

[MiffedStarfish]

I've got some time, throw craft files at me and I'll run a few battles!

[Sidestrafe2462]

craft file for the Avenger is up a few posts, sorry about the late response

[Sidestrafe2462]

The Olympian Class Heavy Cruiser is ready to fight! will post when i finish tweaking stuff

[Piatzin]

46 minutes ago, MiffedStarfish said:

I've got some time, throw craft files at me and I'll run a few battles!

Maybe some more plane v ships?

[Sidestrafe2462]

do it!

yes, i wanna test the Olympian out

wheres your planes again?