Silvia Dragoness Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 1:33 PM, AlphaMensae said: You probably have Modular Launch Pads incorrectly installed, as the nodes should be present to the left of the start. Or, you probably do have a mod conflict. Only the stock tree, Community Tech Tree (just addons to the stock one) and UnKerballed Start tree are supported. You might have some other mod that alters where mod parts go in unknown ways. Also, dependuing on what changes have been done in newer KSP versions, new tech tree nodes may not show up if they were added after starting a new career. Expand I mean, I installed it through CKAN, which didn't (and still doesn't) show any conflicts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 6:11 PM, Silvia Dragoness said: I mean, I installed it through CKAN, which didn't (and still doesn't) show any conflicts. Expand It wouldn't, not for this type of thing if no one has previously found it. If you provide your log file I'd imagine we could take some pretty educated guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Dragoness Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 6:50 PM, OrbitalManeuvers said: It wouldn't, not for this type of thing if no one has previously found it. If you provide your log file I'd imagine we could take some pretty educated guesses. Expand Just KSP.log, or would like a ModuleManager log be more useful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 7:14 PM, Silvia Dragoness said: Just KSP.log, or would like a ModuleManager log be more useful? Expand Hopefully someone more capable than me will look at them too, so ... yeah the ksp.log and the mm cache file seem to be what lots of authors ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Dragoness Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 7:18 PM, OrbitalManeuvers said: Hopefully someone more capable than me will look at them too, so ... yeah the ksp.log and the mm cache file seem to be what lots of authors ask for. Expand KSP.log and ModuleManager.cache in dropbox folder: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gkeac7q30qkm8yg/AADpmIfOc1d476gEFNQb-HMAa?dl=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 5:59 AM, Silvia Dragoness said: my crazy mod setup Expand welp, you weren't kidding about that part. It looks to me like MLP is installed fine. Hopefully someone will see something. The only thing that stands out to me (as in, I don't have it and it sounds related) is 002_CommunityPartsTitles. But the MM cache file shows MLP parts being processed. Are the parts showing up in the VAB? If you open the gutter on the left where the subassemblies are, there's supposed to be an icon there for MLP, with a bunch of subcategories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Dragoness Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 9:09 PM, OrbitalManeuvers said: welp, you weren't kidding about that part. It looks to me like MLP is installed fine. Hopefully someone will see something. The only thing that stands out to me (as in, I don't have it and it sounds related) is 002_CommunityPartsTitles. But the MM cache file shows MLP parts being processed. Are the parts showing up in the VAB? If you open the gutter on the left where the subassemblies are, there's supposed to be an icon there for MLP, with a bunch of subcategories. Expand The ones that are in existing tech nodes are there. The ones in MLP's new tech nodes are not, presumably because I haven't (and can't) unlocked them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 11:11 PM, Silvia Dragoness said: The ones in MLP's new tech nodes are not, presumably because I haven't (and can't) unlocked them. Expand Not that this is any help, but here's my tech tree with no contract or tree modifications, just a ton of part mods. The MLP nodes are over there in science mode whether I've unlocked them or not, just like normal nodes on the right. Reveal hidden contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Dragoness Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 2:47 AM, OrbitalManeuvers said: Not that this is any help, but here's my tech tree with no contract or tree modifications, just a ton of part mods. The MLP nodes are over there in science mode whether I've unlocked them or not, just like normal nodes on the right. Reveal hidden contents Expand To clarify: I have the MLP filter in the VAB/SPH; at present, it only contains the MLP parts that go in pre-existing tech nodes. The MLP parts that go into the new MLP-created tech nodes are absent from the tech tree entirely; this means I cannot unlock them, and by extension, they are not listed in the VAB/SPH parts list at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 3:39 AM, Silvia Dragoness said: To clarify: I have the MLP filter in the VAB/SPH; at present, it only contains the MLP parts that go in pre-existing tech nodes. The MLP parts that go into the new MLP-created tech nodes are absent from the tech tree entirely; this means I cannot unlock them, and by extension, they are not listed in the VAB/SPH parts list at all. Expand You must have some mod screwing around with the MLP parts and tech tree nodes then. You only have the Mount Platform since that is the one part that doesn't have the "AM_MLP_" prefix in the part name, so something is affecting the ones that do (which is everything else). Try just a basic KSP install with just MLP and its dependencies, plus Module Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 3:39 AM, Silvia Dragoness said: it only contains the MLP parts that go in pre-existing tech nodes. Expand >> the one part that doesn't have the "AM_MLP_" prefix Do you have grep or something like it? Any occurrence of that string outside the MLP folder would probably be your conflicting mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Dragoness Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Welp, I got it working--first with a workaround I came up with myself, and then properly. I decided to try to trim down my mod setup a bit, and in the process I realized I somehow wound up with both Unkerballed Start and Probes Before Crew. PBC was one of about two dozen mods I got rid of, and now MLP's tech nodes are appearing correctly. Not sure if MLP breaking was directly a result of PBC, or some weird interaction between PBC and UKS. I suspect the former, but I can't be arsed to test it. It's working now, that's about all I care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuessingEveryDay Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 10:58 AM, Silvia Dragoness said: Not sure if MLP breaking was directly a result of PBC, or some weird interaction between PBC and UKS. I suspect the former, but I can't be arsed to test it. It's working now, that's about all I care about. Expand Installing two tech trees will usually give you a bad result. Have you heard of our Lord and Savior of Mods, CKAN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Dragoness Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 7:18 PM, GuessingEveryDay said: Installing two tech trees will usually give you a bad result. Have you heard of our Lord and Savior of Mods, CKAN? Expand I'm already a CKAN evangelist. Somehow, neither UKS and PBC mark the other as conflicting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eberkain Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 8:01 PM, Silvia Dragoness said: I'm already a CKAN evangelist. Somehow, neither UKS and PBC mark the other as conflicting. Expand Unkerbaled Start and Probes Before Crew is definitely an either/or situation. They both do basically the same thing. Its not possible for every single conflicting mod to be flagged correctly in CKAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4ti140 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Does anyone else have the issue where using modular launch pads completely throws off delta-V calculations in mechjeb, breaking PVG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuessingEveryDay Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Lately my launchpads haven't being fueling up my rockets. It may be related to a different mod, but I wonder if there's anything I can do to change this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/8/2022 at 1:31 AM, GuessingEveryDay said: Lately my launchpads haven't being fueling up my rockets. It may be related to a different mod, but I wonder if there's anything I can do to change this. Expand The launch base fuel generators strictly follow crossfeed rules, so they won't fuel anything past a decoupler, unless you temporarily enable crossfeed on decouplers before launch. On 2/7/2022 at 9:18 AM, m4ti140 said: Does anyone else have the issue where using modular launch pads completely throws off delta-V calculations in mechjeb, breaking PVG? Expand You'd have to ask the Mechjeb PVG users or the RO people about that. Figure out dV before attaching the launch base, and then make sure it is not the root part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuessingEveryDay Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/8/2022 at 1:39 AM, AlphaMensae said: The launch base fuel generators strictly follow crossfeed rules, so they won't fuel anything past a decoupler, unless you temporarily enable crossfeed on decouplers before launch. Expand Hmm, what about the engine plates? It seems the fuel won't go through them. Fuel pipes, it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/8/2022 at 12:16 PM, GuessingEveryDay said: Hmm, what about the engine plates? It seems the fuel won't go through them. Fuel pipes, it is. Expand Yeah, those things have weird issues with them, that's one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xD-FireStriker Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Been some time since i last dropped in, Hows the Shuttle Pad Redesign going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 3:55 AM, xD-FireStriker said: Been some time since i last dropped in, Hows the Shuttle Pad Redesign going? Expand It's not, and most likely it and everything else isn't going to happen, as I'm done with MLP. I thought the Delta IV stand would respark the desire, but instead it made me realize that I didn't want to do this anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalManeuvers Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 1:28 PM, AlphaMensae said: as I'm done with MLP. Expand Thank you for everything you've done on this mod over the years. It's an incredible set of parts exactly as it is today. Us KSP players can come off as entitled brats sometimes with all the "gimme, gimme" requests, but I hope that enough people have given positive feedback over the years to help offset that. This mod and two or three others are the core of why I was able to stick with KSP, which had tons of positive ripple effects, so I'm eternally grateful that you've shared your hard work and creativity with us and asked nothing in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyJ576 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 @AlphaMensaeThank you for everything that you have done with this mod. It is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepehr Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Hi Alpha, could you please add the Ariane V Launchpad (Tower, Base, etc...)? Thank you very much, this is really fitting for this mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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