[1.7, 1.8, 1.9] Kerbalized SpaceX BETA

linuxgurugamer · April 19, 2020

Made by @harrisjosh2711, he has left the scene and turned the mod over to myself. See his last post in the thread about the license info. Original thread is here: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/162949-kerbalized-spacex/

Current license is ARR, it will be changing at the full release.

Kerbalized SpaceX

Want to build the SpaceX BFR crew/cargo, Falcon 9, falcon heavy, etc.... This mod is for you! This mod is designed to help you save on part count big time. Be it docking ports to cargo bay's- every part is integrated with something (or multiple somethings) to help you lower your parts count.

HOW TO RE-ENTER WITH THE "BFR" -Kill 98% of velocity on a 55 ton vehicle with aerodynamics only-.

(I took a steep angle of attack, and experienced very high G's, with good piloting skills and a lower angle of attack you can limit the amount to under 5g's. This happens during the flip maneuver(You will see).

Includes:

Pods- Dragon, Dragon V2, ITS Titan, Space Bug, BFR crew & cargo variation.

Rockets- Falcon 9 Ft, Falcon 9, BFR

Engines- *31 raptor cluster, *3 raptor cluster, *4 raptor vacuum cluster, *9 merlin engine cluster, merlin vacuum, merlin atmospheric.

Misc: Dragon 1 trunk, Dragon V2 trunk, Dragon nose cone, Dragon panel Covers, Heat shield, Falcon Legs, Aero Fins.

Availability

Source code: https://github.com/linuxgurugamer/Dragon2/
Download (BETA): https://www.dropbox.com/s/70k0ytdqxp03qxc/Dragon2.zip?dl=0
License: ARR

Changes from original mod

Added .version file
Updated all ModuleRCS to ModuleRCSFX, in the following files:
- BFR.cfg
- BFRcargo.cfg
- BFRtank-Copy.cfg
- BFRtank.cfg
- Dragon1.2.cfg
- Dragon1.cfg
- FalconFTbooster.cfg
- FalconFTbooster2.cfg
- FalconFTboosterBlack.cfg
- FalconFTboosterBlackSideways.cfg
- FalconFTboosterWhiteSideways.cfg
- ITSTitan.cfg
- KerbalizedDragonv2.cfg
- KerbalizedDragonv2-2.cfg
Renamed BFRtank - Copy.cfg to BFRtank2.cfg
Rebaned BFRCrewQuarters - Copy.cfg to BFRCrewQuarters2.cfg
Renamed all "dragonnosecode2 (1).*" to "dragonNoseCone.*"
Updated all breakingForce, breakingTorque, crashTolerance to conform to stock values
Converted 6 mbm files to dds
Other miscellaneous changes

Dependencies:

Retractable lifting surfaces for aero fins (now included in RetractableLiftingSurface mod, needs at least v0.2.1)
Requires "near future solar" for the solar panels on the trunk to work.
RPM and Asset Props are required for any functionality in the V2's IVA.

Recommendations

Kerbal joint re-enforcement will make ur life much easier playing with the BFR.

Appreciation Section (original author)

Thanks to @Mecripp for converting all the textures to .dds and for his help in various other areas.
Thanks to @mrtagnan For taking the time to provide some beautiful new engine plumes using the Real Plume mod
Thanks to all my followers for helping me keep the ambition to continue the development of this mod! I likely would have stopped with the V2 if it wasn't for you guys.

Edited October 13, 2020 by linuxgurugamer

Kraken that doesn't exist · April 19, 2020

Was waiting for this magnificent day.

Kraken that doesn't exist · April 19, 2020

Got it working fine.

harrisjosh2711 · April 20, 2020

I played around with some of the parts last night to check on docking ports and such. Everything seems to be working okay thus far. I thought the animations were broken but it turned out being the 1.8.1 version of Scatterer that was bugging them out. Took me a while to figure that out. In any case, the newest version of Scatterer (released yesterday) does not cause any issues. I had a bit of an issue docking the dragon 1 and BFR cargo but wasn't unable. Need to test further to deduce which docking transform is causing the issue. I Also pulled the masters into a GitHub repository. Will send link to your inbox.

tinygrox · May 30, 2020

CKAN pls?

Murdabenne · June 8, 2020

On 5/30/2020 at 10:39 AM, tinygrox said:

CKAN pls?

If its LGG, it will be in CKAN sooner or later.

kananesgi · June 9, 2020

So the original of this mod is on CKAN, but this updated version isn't yet. I'll have to remove the ones I got then and manually put this in its place.

@linuxgurugamerjust curious if you plan to tweak the thrust values on the engines any? I haven't actually done anything with these parts yet aside from look at them in the tech tree. Just seems like something like 23,000 kn of thrust from the BFR engine cluster seems outlandish, considering the most powerful stock engine is around 1500 or 1800 kn I think. I know the BFR is massive, but is it really that massive? Even the Falcon 9 cluster seems exorbitant at 5500kn.

[EDIT] Oh wait, these are probably built from real world specs, and ksp is like 1/10th real scale. That would explain the discrepancies. I'm playing with JNSQ, which is about 1/4 reality I believe, so these are still massively overpowered I think. But then I can't say for certain until I actually use them in game.

Edited June 9, 2020 by kananesgi

RaiderMan · June 15, 2020

I dont suppose there's a version of my old favorite falcon riding mod for 1.7.1?

..tried updating to 1.9.1 and it went SNAFU in a BAD way..I just sorted my 1.7.1 install back out this morning..

harrisjosh2711 · June 16, 2020

1 hour ago, RaiderMan said:

I dont suppose there's a version of my old favorite falcon riding mod for 1.7.1?

..tried updating to 1.9.1 and it went SNAFU in a BAD way..I just sorted my 1.7.1 install back out this morning..

I havent tested it but if you remove the deployableaerosurface.dll and delete/swap it out it should run fine on anything after 1.3. All thats changed is an update to the cfg's.

RaiderMan · June 16, 2020

now how do I download it...github's always given me a complex XD.

edit: dropbox...Doh! -facepalm-

ok..I'm not finding the specified dll. where is it at?

Edited June 16, 2020 by RaiderMan

harrisjosh2711 · June 16, 2020

4 hours ago, RaiderMan said:

now how do I download it...github's always given me a complex XD.

edit: dropbox...Doh! -facepalm-

ok..I'm not finding the specified dll. where is it at?

My apologies. Linuxguru made the dll a seperate download in the dependencies section. Should be good to go. The grid fins wont work without the dll

Edited June 16, 2020 by harrisjosh2711

linuxgurugamer · June 16, 2020

I hope to be able to review this in a few days and make a formal release

RaiderMan · June 16, 2020

currently arguing @Angel-125's x-33 into orbit..this'll be my next test.

linuxgurugamer · June 16, 2020

My only concern with this is the power of the engines. My impression, and some feedback I received, is that they are too powerful. Not sure if I'm going to do anything about it, though.

harrisjosh2711 · June 16, 2020

39 minutes ago, linuxgurugamer said:

My only concern with this is the power of the engines. My impression, and some feedback I received, is that they are too powerful. Not sure if I'm going to do anything about it, though.

The bfr engines are EXTREMELY powerful. Due to its sheer volume, and the fact i wanted it to carry its real max payload, it was extremely difficult to balance in anything other than real solar system, which i generally play. I made the engines very inefficient at low altitude in an attempt to balance. It was either isp, decrease fuel levels, add weight, resize, decrease payload. My logic was, if you dont like fix it......

linuxgurugamer · June 16, 2020

That makes sense, so it does need to be rebalance for stock. Any idea how it works in JNSQ?

RaiderMan · June 17, 2020

it wants to roll..like BADLY.

standard falcon 9 crew dragon.

harrisjosh2711 · June 17, 2020

2 hours ago, linuxgurugamer said:

That makes sense, so it does need to be rebalance for stock.

My previous message was a bit unclear. I think most things performed okay in the stock system when i left it. Many did not agree with the way I accomplished it for the bfr. See atmosphereCurve in module engines.

Spoiler

MODULE
   {
       name = ModuleEnginesFX
       engineID = AllEngines
       runningEffectName = running_full
       thrustVectorTransformName = thrustTransform
       exhaustDamage = True
       ignitionThreshold = 0.1
       minThrust = 0
       maxThrust = 48000
       heatProduction = 196
       fxOffset = 0, 0, 0.25
       EngineType = LiquidFuel
       PROPELLANT
       {
           name = LiquidFuel
           ratio = 0.9
           DrawGauge = True
       }
       PROPELLANT
       {
           name = Oxidizer
           ratio = 1.1
       }
       atmosphereCurve
       {
           key = 0 335
           key = 1 200
           key = 12 0.001
       }
   }

Those that are complaining have not tried landing it. If its not almost empty on fuel, you ARE NOT landing.

Edited June 17, 2020 by harrisjosh2711

harrisjosh2711 · June 17, 2020

59 minutes ago, RaiderMan said:

it wants to roll..like BADLY.

standard falcon 9 crew dragon.

yeah. Something to due with how the pods generates lift is causing the center of lift to remain directly at the bottom of the pod. the fuel tanks arent causing it to drop, therefore the col is in front of the com. dont know why???? Here is a picture of a unmodded game mk1. Both dragon pods are doing the same.....

Edited June 17, 2020 by harrisjosh2711

RaiderMan · June 17, 2020

only tried the crew dragon..its so badly unstable I cant fly it.

linuxgurugamer · June 17, 2020

9 hours ago, harrisjosh2711 said:

yeah. Something to due with how the pods generates lift is causing the center of lift to remain directly at the bottom of the pod. the fuel tanks arent causing it to drop, therefore the col is in front of the com. dont know why???? Here is a picture of a unmodded game mk1. Both dragon pods are doing the same.....

That is because tanks do not generate lift the same way the pods do. The pods have the following module:

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleLiftingSurface
		useInternalDragModel = False
		deflectionLiftCoeff = 0.35
		liftingSurfaceCurve = CapsuleBottom
		disableBodyLift = False
		omnidirectional = False
		perpendicularOnly = True
		transformDir = Y
		transformSign = -1
		nodeEnabled = True
		attachNodeName = bottom
	}

Tanks don't. The tanks lift is calculated during flight, based on various factors. Same with the pod, but the pods specify where the lift is. While I didn't open the model for the part, I believe that the liftingSurfaceCurve is a transform or node named CapsuleBottom in this case

I'll look at the Dragons to see what's going on. IMHO, they should do the same as the stock Mk1/Mk2/Mk1-2 etc.

linuxgurugamer · June 17, 2020

I think I found why the Dragons are unstable, the deflectionLiftCoeff is way too low.

Comparing it to stock, the stock value for the mk1pod is:

deflectionLiftCoeff = 0.35

mk1pod_v2:

deflectionLiftCoeff = 0.35

mk2Cockpit_Standard:

deflectionLiftCoeff = 0.6
dragAtMaxAoA = 0.1
dragAtMinAoA = 0.03

While for KerbalizedDragon1:

deflectionLiftCoeff = 0.0875

I'll compare the physical size of dragon to the stock parts and adopt the stock settings for the one which is the best match

linuxgurugamer · June 17, 2020

@harrisjosh2711

There are two parts with the same title, seem to be the same part except for the size:

KerbalizedDragon1.2 (3.75m dia)

KerbalizedDragon1 (2.5m dia)

One is 2.5m, the other is 3.75m Almost looks like you just copied the entire config and just changed the model name. I can simply add a "-2" onto the name of the larger one, but would like to know your thoughts first.

Actually, on all the command pods, it seems that you did a copy/paste, because I see that the EC is 1200 for all of them

The EC in the stock Mk1-3 has a max of 150EC. So, is this a mistake, or is there a reason to have so much EC

Also, the monoprop seems to be very high, on top of the liquid fuel.

The TR-5002 2.5m Advanced trunk holds 220 EC, I can't imagine the command pod holding more. Again, all the command trunks seem to have the same values.

harrisjosh2711 · June 17, 2020

@linuxgurugamer

I made all the 2.5m stuff at request so likely all copy paste, as i never used them. The smaller stuff really should be looked at.

As for the other stuff. Make whatever changes you'd like. I likely never decreased the EC from a real solarsystem scale.

I was working on many config changes when i left the mod. Including a set for real scale parts i never released. That data didnt get backed up. Harddrive burned out.

If you feel like it. The tech levels likely need to be looked over.

darthgently · August 24, 2020

Is the SpaceBug docking port clampotron jr compatible? Which way is "up" on it? Can't seem to connect

Edited August 24, 2020 by darthgently

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