Secret planet

[ADNC]

If you're interested, I found out, based on information that was geven to the players, by the show and tells, and the hidden message in the audio, that the secret planet, needs to be three times the distance of eeloo, from kerbal. 
Apogee 340,5×10⁶ km
P            199,8×10⁶ km
Orbital inclination +10⁰/-10⁰ or +70⁰/+40⁰

The planet, will be about the size of kerbin with about the same gravity

Also, based on the info of the sstv signal, i think that what it shows, is the aliens transmitting from there planet to duna. We can also see in planet on the left, that i have no idea what it means. The three planets shown on the right, it might be the next tree out of four objects, that will be reseaving sstv signals.
The duna monument, shows four branches, with an alien, a berbal, and to broken branches, that should also show aliens. All of them are seeing the middle branche, that shows the planet.
One of the four objects that will receive sstv signals, will be kerbin, because is one of the brunches.
The second is Duna, because he has already receive one
The third is Taylo, because it has a monument, indicating that there may was life, that may escaped
The forth one, it can't be minmus, because he's unable of holding life soever. There are two good candidates, that could be the past home of the fourth civilisation, are layth and eve. Eve is better candidate then layth, because it's a dead planet, for life. That could also mean that layth became habitable very resent for intelligent life to acquire.

The reason that I'm writing this here, is because i can't support ksp2

[Bej Kerman]

13 minutes ago, ADNC said:

If you're interested, I found out, based on information that was geven to the players, by the show and tells, and the hidden message in the audio

What information?

14 minutes ago, ADNC said:

that the secret planet, needs to be three times the distance of eeloo, from kerbal. 

And how did you discern that?

15 minutes ago, ADNC said:

Apogee 340,5×10⁶ km
P            199,8×10⁶ km
Orbital inclination +10⁰/-10⁰ or +70⁰/+40⁰

The planet, will be about the size of kerbin with about the same gravity

Where does this come from?

[ADNC]

18 minutes ago, Bej Kerman said:

What information?

And how did you discern that?

Where does this come from?

It's all theoretical at this point based on the things we're been told and seen, from the show and tell videos, and some suggestions, about the ksp2 Easter eggs and what they may mean

I can't find out more, because i can't support ksp2 on my pc, so i posted this in hope that someone would find this useful and may use it.

 

[Bej Kerman]

15 minutes ago, ADNC said:

It's all theoretical at this point based on the things we're been told and seen, from the show and tell videos, and some suggestions, about the ksp2 Easter eggs and what they may mean

When you make fantastic claims like "this vague hint must mean specific orbital parameters", you'd better back it up with fantastic evidence. Just tell us specifically where you got those orbital parameters and how you know the planet is the size of Kerbin, the maths and logic that led you to these conclusions, else we have no reason to believe you're not just connecting dots that aren't there - "it's all theoretical" isn't an answer and doesn't tell us where you got this from.

Edited May 6, 2023 by Bej Kerman

[ADNC]

29 minutes ago, Bej Kerman said:

When you make fantastic claims like "this vague hint must mean specific orbital parameters", you'd better back it up with fantastic evidence. Just tell us specifically where you got those orbital parameters and how you know the planet is the size of Kerbin, the maths and logic that led you to these conclusions, else we have no reason to believe you're not just connecting dots that aren't there - "it's all theoretical" isn't an answer and doesn't tell us where you got this from.

In the message hidden in the audio in the show and tell videos (the one that looks like the Aresibo message), there were 21 fots in the row. At the start, at the left of them starts a line that connects to the "destroyed alien ship". At the end of the dots, there's another line that leads to a planet at the right of the message. Left of this planet is another planet, that seems to be selected, or pointed. Ander of the planets, are to creatures. One looking kerbal and on looking alien, with the alien having his hand raised, like he's calling the kerbal to come find him. Now for the 21 dots, they seem like they indicate road to followed. Based on that at the end of them there's a line pointing to a planet, the dots may are also planets or the planetary objects in the kerbal system. Moho, Eve, Kerbin, Duna, Dres, Jool, Eeloo, one for per dot and this seven objects been shown three times to have 21 dots, indicating that the planet's x orbit may be the distance from kerbal to eeloo ×3.

As i sayed, can't check it out myself, for that i posted this for anyone entreated.

[Scarecrow71]

35 minutes ago, ADNC said:

In the message hidden in the audio in the show and tell videos (the one that looks like the Aresibo message), there were 21 fots in the row. At the start, at the left of them starts a line that connects to the "destroyed alien ship". At the end of the dots, there's another line that leads to a planet at the right of the message. Left of this planet is another planet, that seems to be selected, or pointed. Ander of the planets, are to creatures. One looking kerbal and on looking alien, with the alien having his hand raised, like he's calling the kerbal to come find him. Now for the 21 dots, they seem like they indicate road to followed. Based on that at the end of them there's a line pointing to a planet, the dots may are also planets or the planetary objects in the kerbal system. Moho, Eve, Kerbin, Duna, Dres, Jool, Eeloo, one for per dot and this seven objects been shown three times to have 21 dots, indicating that the planet's x orbit may be the distance from kerbal to eeloo ×3.

As i sayed, can't check it out myself, for that i posted this for anyone entreated.

Which video?  Can you paste a link to it?  And how did you determine there was secret/hidden audio in it?

[ADNC]

4 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said:

Which video?  Can you paste a link to it?  And how did you determine there was secret/hidden audio in it?

I'll send you a link for a video that shows it already decoded, but if you want to decode it yourself, you can see the show and tell videos for ksp2

 

[Bej Kerman]

1 hour ago, ADNC said:

Moho, Eve, Kerbin, Duna, Dres, Jool, Eeloo, one for per dot and this seven objects been shown three times to have 21 dots, indicating that the planet's x orbit may be the distance from kerbal to eeloo ×3.

That's not evidence, this is just a guess. A far-fetched one IMO. I believe this has been discussed before. I've already made the point that you could make the dots represent any unit of distance you like; you claim that each dot represents 1/7th the distance from Kerbol to Eeloo. Someone could just as easily say it's 1/2th the distance between Kerbin and Kerbol. You also don't say how you know the inclination or how you got the Ap and Pe.

[Scarecrow71]

36 minutes ago, ADNC said:

I'll send you a link for a video that shows it already decoded, but if you want to decode it yourself, you can see the show and tell videos for ksp2

 

That whole video is bunk.  "I'll have more analysis on this in future videos, but tell me what you think".  Bogus.

First, that looks like KSP1.  There are no heat effects in the game, and if that was pre-EA, then it was far too polished for those effects to be real.  Second, what I heard sounded like fan blades spinning, not some pulsed secret audio.  And third...spread out across multiple videos?  Really?

If you want to make these claims, then chase this down yourself.  I know - your machine isn't capable of it.  So then don't start this at all.

Edited May 6, 2023 by Scarecrow71

[ADNC]

11 minutes ago, Bej Kerman said:

That's not evidence, this is just a guess. A far-fetched one IMO. I believe this has been discussed before. I've already made the point that you could make the dots represent any unit of distance you like; you claim that each dot represents 1/7th the distance from Kerbol to Eeloo. Someone could just as easily say it's 1/2th the distance between Kerbin and Kerbol. You also don't say how you know the inclination or how you got the Ap and Pe.

I sayed three times the distance from kerbal to eeloo ×3, also sorry my mistake. I copied orbital info from my notes, and i accidentally wrote ap and pe. I wanted to say between this distances. The information is so little, that there's no way i could somehow get 100% accurate numbers, only possible locations, or if you prefer orbital zones, that it might be. And I will say it again, i posted this because i can't play the game to get the info i need myself. If anyone wants to search, he can do and use this info if he wants.

[ADNC]

10 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said:

That whole video is bunk.  "I'll have more analysis on this in future videos, but tell me what you think".  Bogus.

First, that looks like KSP1.  There are no heat effects in the game, and if that was pre-EA, then it was far too polished for those effects to be real.  Second, what I heard sounded like fan blades spinning, not some pulsed secret audio.  And third...spread out across multiple videos?  Really?

If you want to make these claims, then chase this down yourself.  I know - your machine isn't capable of it.  So then don't start this at all.

At the end of the video, the part named

Something more?

https://youtu.be/wnQP5dhxlKU

[Bej Kerman]

32 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said:

First, that looks like KSP1.

Nobody said it isn't?

33 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said:

There are no heat effects in the game, and if that was pre-EA, then it was far too polished for those effects to be real.

Why are you acting as if someone said the game on the monitor is KSP 2? Did you misread something higher up?

34 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said:

Second, what I heard sounded like fan blades spinning, not some pulsed secret audio.

There are literally posts out there explaining how people got the Karecibo message from the above audio. How you think "it sounds like a fan blade" = "those people who decoded the message are liars" is beyond me.

ADNC's interpretation of the message was a bit far-fetched for me, but your debunk (of a video that only just serves to put all the credit sequences in one place, no less) is just ridiculous.

[Strawberry]

Yeah the karecibo message is an actual thing, like we've been tracking this for like a year now. The interpretation of course is up in the air (and with the mun gate being revealed I think a hidden kerbol planet is incredibly unlikely), but the message itself is a thing

[Scarecrow71]

2 hours ago, Bej Kerman said:

Nobody said it isn't?

The video says KSP2.  This post is in the KSP2 forum.  Hence, it is assumed it is KSP2.

Self-editing of post to not get warned for violating forum rules.

Edited May 6, 2023 by Scarecrow71

[Bej Kerman]

10 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said:

1 hour ago, Bej Kerman said:

Nobody said it isn't?

The video says KSP2.  This post is in the KSP2 forum.  Hence, it is assumed it is KSP2.

They made a theory about a signal from a KSP 2 related video. Hence, there's no reason for you to go on about how the gameplay footage is KSP 1 because nobody said it wasn't and nobody was assuming the gameplay was from KSP 2.

11 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said:

And do you have some personal issue with me?  Cuz you seem to get off on taking issue wth everything I post.

If you have a problem with me saying it's daft to say that the sound isn't a signal when people literally decoded the Karecibo message from it, then address it.

[K^2]

8 hours ago, ADNC said:

Moho, Eve, Kerbin, Duna, Dres, Jool, Eeloo, one for per dot and this seven objects been shown three times to have 21 dots, indicating that the planet's x orbit may be the distance from kerbal to eeloo ×3.

The distances between the star and the planets you've listed are not equally spaced. It's not reasonable to assume based on this that one dot represents specifically 1/7 the distance from Kerbol to Eeloo. (Edit: To be precise, not more reasonable than many other possible interpretation.) Why not 1/3 the distance from Kerbol to Kerbin? Naturally, that would put it on an orbit intersecting that of Eeeloo, at least in the projection back to the plane. So that kind of interpretation of data doesn't seem strong.

A hypothesis that the message hints at another star system, and dots representing a much greater distance are much more plausible. It's been suggested that a single dot could be a light year, as the devs have hinted at that being a common interstellar distance measure, a parsec (which would be about 0.4ly for Kerbin), the Kerbol-Eeloo distance.

Edited May 7, 2023 by K^2

[Alexoff]

And I dreamed that there was another planet inside the orbit of Moho. It's the size of Duna and in a retrograde orbit!

[K^2]

I think, if it was something that close, people would definitely have found it while looking for the Easter Eggs. And in general, if any secret planets were in the code base at all, I think someone would find them while data-mining.

That said, data-miners have found assets for planets not yet in the current version of the game. It's been assumed that they belong to the upcoming star systems, but there is no guarantee that one of them isn't secretly meant to be in Kerbol system and just hasn't been enabled yet. We might get a secret planet yet - I just don't think there's any point in looking for it right now.

[some_failure]

has anyone looked there?

[Scarecrow71]

4 hours ago, K^2 said:

That said, data-miners have found assets for planets not yet in the current version of the game. It's been assumed that they belong to the upcoming star systems, but there is no guarantee that one of them isn't secretly meant to be in Kerbol system and just hasn't been enabled yet. We might get a secret planet yet - I just don't think there's any point in looking for it right now.

Considering what the molders have been able to do to this point, I'm curious if its possible to u lock these assets for use?  Before anyone asks or blasts:  no, I dont know.  That is why I'm asking.

[K^2]

23 minutes ago, Scarecrow71 said:

Considering what the molders have been able to do to this point, I'm curious if its possible to u lock these assets for use?

Yes, but I'm not qualified to gauge the effort required. And likely, the only way to know for sure is to try.

[Nicrose]

5 hours ago, K^2 said:

That said, data-miners have found assets for planets not yet in the current version of the game. It's been assumed that they belong to the upcoming star systems, but there is no guarantee that one of them isn't secretly meant to be in Kerbol system and just hasn't been enabled yet. We might get a secret planet yet - I just don't think there's any point in looking for it right now.

If there is every a "secret planet", it won't be secret because data-miners will have already found it, where it is, and all the information about it in the game files. I personally wish this wasn't the case because stumbling upon a secret planet sounds awesome!

[ADNC]

On 5/6/2023 at 5:58 PM, ADNC said:

If you're interested, I found out, based on information that was geven to the players, by the show and tells, and the hidden message in the audio, that the secret planet, needs to be three times the distance of eeloo, from kerbal. 
Apogee 340,5×10⁶ km
P            199,8×10⁶ km
Orbital inclination +10⁰/-10⁰ or +70⁰/+40⁰

The planet, will be about the size of kerbin with about the same gravity

Also, based on the info of the sstv signal, i think that what it shows, is the aliens transmitting from there planet to duna. We can also see in planet on the left, that i have no idea what it means. The three planets shown on the right, it might be the next tree out of four objects, that will be reseaving sstv signals.
The duna monument, shows four branches, with an alien, a berbal, and to broken branches, that should also show aliens. All of them are seeing the middle branche, that shows the planet.
One of the four objects that will receive sstv signals, will be kerbin, because is one of the brunches.
The second is Duna, because he has already receive one
The third is Taylo, because it has a monument, indicating that there may was life, that may escaped
The forth one, it can't be minmus, because he's unable of holding life soever. There are two good candidates, that could be the past home of the fourth civilisation, are layth and eve. Eve is better candidate then layth, because it's a dead planet, for life. That could also mean that layth became habitable very resent for intelligent life to acquire.

The reason that I'm writing this here, is because i can't support ksp2

I will say for the last time. I don't know if it exists, the only thing that I know is that the devs are keen in adding a secret planet in the game that would not be shown in any map and he would be in so far orbit that would make nearly impossible for someone to find him by chance, and the only way for it to be found, it would be to piece together information found in the game, like Easter eggs and the sstv signals (there is on found on the south pole of Duna), from back in 2013.

Reality is like a video and it's quality is the information you have. Now the quality is 144 and for it to increase, more information is needed.

If someone wants to use the info that i found, the best way, is to send a lot of crafts in high orbits, between the distance that i found in the hypothetical orbital inclination, speed up the time and wait for an anomaly in one of the orbits. But this is also based on luck, because finding a planet in the size of kerbin in the deep kerbal system is hard, and more information is needed.

If someone finds something he can share it or keep it for himself. With something i don't necessarily mean a planet, but anything new, like an new sstv signal to decode.

On 5/6/2023 at 8:47 PM, Scarecrow71 said:

That whole video is bunk.  "I'll have more analysis on this in future videos, but tell me what you think".  Bogus.

First, that looks like KSP1.  There are no heat effects in the game, and if that was pre-EA, then it was far too polished for those effects to be real.  Second, what I heard sounded like fan blades spinning, not some pulsed secret audio.  And third...spread out across multiple videos?  Really?

If you want to make these claims, then chase this down yourself.  I know - your machine isn't capable of it.  So then don't start this at all.

At the end of the video, the part named

Something more?

https://youtu.be/wnQP5dhxlKU

[TLTay]

You've got it all wrong, the math was supposed to tell you the 1.0 release date is 3 full circles of samsara away and you'll be reincarnated as a Mongolian three-eyed  mud fish at the time...