Deep Space Network should be in deep space!

[darthgently]

One of the topics here 

 

[JoeSchmuckatelli]

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Deep Space Network should be in deep space

AFAIK we only have 2 craft in deep space. 

[JoeSchmuckatelli]

... But, yeah, I have long wondered why we don't have radio telescopes at L4&L5, a Mars relay, etc. 

 

Possible Starship missions? 

[darthgently]

2 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

AFAIK we only have 2 craft in deep space. 

The DSN handles way more than VGR1&2.  Rovers on Mars for example.  Solar probes, course corrections for this and that.  I've tended to assume"deep space" in the DSN context means beyond the Earth-Moon system, not halfway to Arrakis

[JoeSchmuckatelli]

1 hour ago, darthgently said:

The DSN handles way more than VGR1&2.  Rovers on Mars for example.  Solar probes, course corrections for this and that.  I've tended to assume"deep space" in the DSN context means beyond the Earth-Moon system, not halfway to Arrakis

Grin - I know: your video did a great job of explaining.  Besides, everyone knows the only way to communicate with Arrakis is via spicetrance. 

Putting massive radio telescopes at L4&L5 is just a pet hope of mine. 

 

[magnemoe]

1 hour ago, darthgently said:

The DSN handles way more than VGR1&2.  Rovers on Mars for example.  Solar probes, course corrections for this and that.  I've tended to assume"deep space" in the DSN context means beyond the Earth-Moon system, not halfway to Arrakis

This, now I kind of suspect future missions will move more over to use lasers as the bandwidth intense links, suspect lasers will also be better at long distance communication. But this pretty much require receivers in space or bad weather can block you off. 
But you probably just need one satellite looking at mars to receive the signals from multiple probes there same for other planets.  

[Nuke]

i have a similar issue with the term outer space. outside of what?

[mikegarrison]

How can space be "deep" if I have to go up to get to it?

[darthgently]

I kind of liked the term from Firefly:  the Black.

Firefly Theme Lyrics

Spoiler

The Ballad of Serenity Lyrics by Joss Whedon(

written by Joss Whedon, performed by Sonny Rhodes)

Take my love, take my land,

Take me where I cannot stand.

I don't care, I'm still free,

You can't take the sky from me.

 

Take me out to the black,

Tell them I ain't comin back.

Burn the land and boil the sea,

You can't take the sky from me.

 

There's no place, I can be,

Since I've found Serenity.

 

And you can't take the sky from me.

 

[*Full version:]

 

(*Note: unverified submission)

 

Take my love, take my land

Take me where I cannot stand

I don't care, I'm still free

You can't take the sky from me.

 

Take me out to the black

Tell them I ain't comin' back

Burn the land and boil the sea

You can't take the sky from me.

 

Leave the men where they lay

They'll never see another day

Lost my soul, lost my dream

You can't take the sky from me.

 

I feel the black reaching out

I hear its song without a doubt

I still hear and I still see

That you can't take the sky from me.

 

Lost my love, lost my land

Lost the last place I could stand

There's no place I can be

Since I've found Serenity

 

And you can't take the sky from me.

 

[Thanks to alligirl1210, andrewzabar for correcting these lyrics]

Copyright: Lyrics © Original Writer and Publisher

source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/fireflylyrics.html

 

Edited May 28 by darthgently

[DDE]

23 hours ago, Nuke said:

i have a similar issue with the term outer space. outside of what?

...atmosphere, usually.

[Nuke]

6 minutes ago, darthgently said:

I kind of liked the term from Firefly:  the Black.

Firefly Theme Lyrics

The Ballad of Serenity Lyrics by Joss Whedon(

written by Joss Whedon, performed by Sonny Rhodes)

Take my love, take my land,

Take me where I cannot stand.

I don't care, I'm still free,

You can't take the sky from me.

 

Take me out to the black,

Tell them I ain't comin back.

Burn the land and boil the sea,

You can't take the sky from me.

 

There's no place, I can be,

Since I've found Serenity.

 

And you can't take the sky from me.

 

[*Full version:]

 

(*Note: unverified submission)

 

Take my love, take my land

Take me where I cannot stand

I don't care, I'm still free

You can't take the sky from me.

 

Take me out to the black

Tell them I ain't comin' back

Burn the land and boil the sea

You can't take the sky from me.

 

Leave the men where they lay

They'll never see another day

Lost my soul, lost my dream

You can't take the sky from me.

 

I feel the black reaching out

I hear its song without a doubt

I still hear and I still see

That you can't take the sky from me.

 

Lost my love, lost my land

Lost the last place I could stand

There's no place I can be

Since I've found Serenity

 

And you can't take the sky from me.

 

[Thanks to alligirl1210, andrewzabar for correcting these lyrics]

Copyright: Lyrics © Original Writer and Publisher

source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/fireflylyrics.html

this might be one of the best sci-fi theme songs ever.

[Codraroll]

My understanding is that the Deep Space Network services Deep Space (in the "anything beyond the Earth and the Moon" definition of the term), but in itself it's located conveniently close. Similar to how the Foreign Secretary isn't a foreign national.

[Gargamel]

17 minutes ago, Codraroll said:

Foreign Secretary isn't a foreign national.

They are to me     
 

 

 

[magnemoe]

9 hours ago, Codraroll said:

My understanding is that the Deep Space Network services Deep Space (in the "anything beyond the Earth and the Moon" definition of the term), but in itself it's located conveniently close. Similar to how the Foreign Secretary isn't a foreign national.

Yes, if you include the L1 and L2, can not imagine Web uses it. And then I talked about communication lasers in space they would be in earth orbit. 

[Nuke]

On 5/28/2024 at 11:27 AM, DDE said:

...atmosphere, usually.

so just space then.

[AckSed]

Hm. Deep-space monitoring of probes might be a service a future Lunar base could offer.