[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [16.1][28.05.2024][Mars Expedition WIP]

[Beale]

So next, we can move onto the 1.25m Mir parts, kvant-2, Kristall.

Not quite ready to put on GitHub.

The aim as ever is still a good balance, for the first time you should be able to build a good, and decently accurate / specialised Mir, but there is some focus to keep the parts generic. If you can think of some accomodations that would make the more useful in generic uses,  let me know.

Edited May 4, 2021 by Beale

[si2504]

6 minutes ago, Beale said:

So next, we can move onto the 1.25m Mir parts, kvant-2, Kristall.

Not quite ready to put on GitHub.

The aim as ever is still a good balance, for the first time you should be able to build a good, and decently accurate / specialised Mir, but there is some focus to keep the parts generic. If you can think of some accomodations that would make the more useful in generic uses,  let me know.

what are the model sizes of the MIR & FGB crew sections out of curiosity, 2.5m? Always good to know what the parts are modelled at so people like myself that like to make RO configs can do so accurately.

[Beale]

4 minutes ago, si2504 said:

what are the model sizes of the MIR & FGB crew sections out of curiosity, 2.5m? Always good to know what the parts are modelled at so people like myself that like to make RO configs can do so accurately.

For sure, they are roughly like so
red - KSP
white - IRL

If you have blender, you can take a look at the raw files if you need some custom measurements:

https://github.com/Tantares/Tantares_Assets/tree/master/FGB

Mostly all parts with a rescale of 160% will be IRL scale (Though there a little deviations to fit into the KSP node sizes).

 

[si2504]

4 minutes ago, Beale said:

For sure, they are roughly like so
red - KSP
white - IRL

If you have blender, you can take a look at the raw files if you need some custom measurements:

https://github.com/Tantares/Tantares_Assets/tree/master/FGB

Mostly all parts with a rescale of 160% will be IRL scale (Though there a little deviations to fit into the KSP node sizes).

 

Thank you very much Sir!

[golkaidakhaana]

Beale I love your and mods ....... I appreciate you and I loving Tantares ,,,,

[si2504]

1 hour ago, golkaidakhaana said:

Beale I love your and mods ....... I appreciate you and I loving Tantares ,,,,

+1..... Zarya and it's ride.

[Beale]

13 hours ago, si2504 said:

+1..... Zarya and it's ride.

incredible, loving it.

Looking at the docking window on Zarya there, we have some new replacements in the works

Edited May 8, 2021 by Beale

[hendrack]

I see you're working on FGB. Now it's a good time to beg ask about the prichal node again? Good stuff coming from you anyway, thanks a lot. 

[si2504]

1 hour ago, Beale said:

incredible, loving it.

Looking at the docking window on Zarya there, we have some new replacements in the works

cool. What I would like to see, what I could not find anywhere so I had to sort of mock up, are Zarya's correction and docking engines (KRD-442). On yours they're just the squad spider engines, but we have the s5.79 for MIR so would be cool to see the KRD-442 engines.

[Beale]

1 hour ago, hendrack said:

I see you're working on FGB. Now it's a good time to beg ask about the prichal node again? Good stuff coming from you anyway, thanks a lot. 

Ah thanks, that's a nice idea. I will be picking up some Nauka parts I believe, so this might fit with that. I've added it to the GitHub project "tentative" list:

https://github.com/Tantares/Tantares/projects/11

1 hour ago, si2504 said:

cool. What I would like to see, what I could not find anywhere so I had to sort of mock up, are Zarya's correction and docking engines (KRD-442). On yours they're just the squad spider engines, but we have the s5.79 for MIR so would be cool to see the KRD-442 engines.

Ah for sure, there will be the Puppy-sled engine setup for use with these (in fabric and otherwise)

[kerbiloid]

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/index.php?topic=11365.0;all

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46198.0

A model of the cancelled UR-500MK launch vehicle with TKS installed.

A kerolox rocket, was proposed to replace Proton.

"NK-33 and NK-43 engines: a four-unit 11K98 (15 tons per orbit 200 km / 51.6 °, 11-12.5 t on SSO) and seven-block 11K99 (30-31.5 t to orbit 200 km / 51.6 °, 25.5-26.8 t on SSO). "

Spoiler

4-block

7-block

 

Edited May 9, 2021 by kerbiloid

[Beale]

6 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/index.php?topic=11365.0;all

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46198.0

A model of the cancelled UR-500MK launch vehicle with TKS installed.

A kerolox rocket, was proposed to replace Proton.

"NK-33 and NK-43 engines: a four-unit 11K98 (15 tons per orbit 200 km / 51.6 °, 11-12.5 t on SSO) and seven-block 11K99 (30-31.5 t to orbit 200 km / 51.6 °, 25.5-26.8 t on SSO). "

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4-block

7-block

 

Hey that's really cool, must be close to possible to make with current parts right?

 

 

[Beale]

A few of the parts so far had little circle mounts that could be toggled.

but, this was actually not a great use of space, by ditching these, we can have much more interesting variants, with no extra texture space

 

Some variants possible:

[golkaidakhaana]

What is the conical probeheatshield uses for..I t doesn t fit with the Venus lander ?

[billbobjebkirk]

To express my appreciation for this mod, here are a few scenes from the Soviet-style science save I've been playing since January:

Spoiler

 

The 1MM Probes pushed the early boundaries of spaceflight, becoming the first visitors to the Mun and Minmus, though their visits were all too short.

 

After many failed attempts, Kosmos 23 became the first successful flight of the USPR's space capsule. Many more tests were needed before it would be ready for crews, but a great destiny was already ahead.

 

First Kosmonaut Yebedia salutes the recovery crews after toughing down at the conclusion of the first mission in the age of Kerbal Spaceflight.

 

A Muna-K rocket sits on the pad, waiting for the moment just a day away when it will receive the pilot for the Mechta 2 mission, which will be the first to spend over a day in orbit.

 

The Muna-K rockets for Mechta 3 and its following mission wait on the pads for their launches, scheduled a day apart. Unfortunately, with Mechta 3 aborted for medical reasons, it would be months before that second launch would ever take place.

 

The 2MM probes would carry on the legacy of the Muna and Minmia missions before, allowing for the first time mapping and landing missions rather than simple flybys and impacts. But first, there were countless problems that had to be worked out, and many harsh failures to endure.

 

Mechta 7 captures Mechta 6 during a lengthy close approach during the ambitious dual mission. Not only are the two vessels the first ever to perform an orbital rendezvous, they are also the first to carry more than one Kosmonaut, with Mechta 6 carrying two male and 7 two female. This mission was the last moment of true supremacy for the USPR's program.

 

Kosmonaut Valentina becomes the first Kosmonaut to perform a spacewalk on her second flight in orbit. Unfortunately, the other goals of the Mechta 10 mission ended in failure, and the rivals had matched its goals months before.

 

Liftoff for the ill-fated Mechta 12, which failed to reach orbit to rendezvous with Mechta 11 for an ambitious docking mission for the first crewed flight of the new 5K capsule. The near-disasters faced by both missions could not have come at a worse time for the program, as it saw itself eclipsed by an ascendant capitalist Mun program.

 

Muna 11, the first successful Mun landing by the USPR, captures its descent shell and Kerbin in a single image.

 

Engineer-Kosmonaut Kirvan of Mechta 14 performs an EVA to board Rassvet, the rudimentary space station and first in the world.

 

Desperate to one-up the ambitious and successful capitalist Mun program, the heavy T1 rocket boosts Kosmonaut Bilybobski on his Skachok 1 mission to become the first Kerbal to step foot on Minmus. The mission barely edged out the rival Minmus program, though it came at quite the expense.

 

Engineer-Kosmonaut Bilybobski's photo of the Minmia T-1 habitat, which would serve as his home for the next year as he awaited the completion of the deep-space vehicles capable of returning him home.

 

 

Edited May 10, 2021 by billbobjebkirk

[Minmus Taster]

59 minutes ago, billbobjebkirk said:

To express my appreciation for this mod, here are a few scenes from the Soviet-style science save I've been playing since January:

  Hide contents

 

The 1MM Probes pushed the early boundaries of spaceflight, becoming the first visitors to the Mun and Minmus, though their visits were all too short.

 

After many failed attempts, Kosmos 23 became the first successful flight of the USPR's space capsule. Many more tests were needed before it would be ready for crews, but a great destiny was already ahead.

 

First Kosmonaut Yebedia salutes the recovery crews after toughing down at the conclusion of the first mission in the age of Kerbal Spaceflight.

 

A Muna-K rocket sits on the pad, waiting for the moment just a day away when it will receive the pilot for the Mechta 2 mission, which will be the first to spend over a day in orbit.

 

The Muna-K rockets for Mechta 3 and its following mission wait on the pads for their launches, scheduled a day apart. Unfortunately, with Mechta 3 aborted for medical reasons, it would be months before that second launch would ever take place.

 

The 2MM probes would carry on the legacy of the Muna and Minmia missions before, allowing for the first time mapping and landing missions rather than simple flybys and impacts. But first, there were countless problems that had to be worked out, and many harsh failures to endure.

 

Mechta 7 captures Mechta 6 during a lengthy close approach during the ambitious dual mission. Not only are the two vessels the first ever to perform an orbital rendezvous, they are also the first to carry more than one Kosmonaut, with Mechta 6 carrying two male and 7 two female. This mission was the last moment of true supremacy for the USPR's program.

 

Kosmonaut Valentina becomes the first Kosmonaut to perform a spacewalk on her second flight in orbit. Unfortunately, the other goals of the Mechta 10 mission ended in failure, and the rivals had matched its goals months before.

 

Liftoff for the ill-fated Mechta 12, which failed to reach orbit to rendezvous with Mechta 11 for an ambitious docking mission for the first crewed flight of the new 5K capsule. The near-disasters faced by both missions could not have come at a worse time for the program, as it saw itself eclipsed by an ascendant capitalist Mun program.

 

Muna 11, the first successful Mun landing by the USPR, captures its descent shell and Kerbin in a single image.

 

Engineer-Kosmonaut Kirvan of Mechta 14 performs an EVA to board Rassvet, the rudimentary space station and first in the world.

 

Desperate to one-up the ambitious and successful capitalist Mun program, the heavy T1 rocket boosts Kosmonaut Bilybobski on his Skachok 1 mission to become the first Kerbal to step foot on Minmus. The mission barely edged out the rival Minmus program, though it came at quite the expense.

 

Engineer-Kosmonaut Bilybobski's photo of the Minmia T-1 habitat, which would serve as his home for the next year as he awaited the completion of the deep-space vehicles capable of returning him home.

 

 

TELL ME HOW YOU DID THOSE FX!!!! please?

[billbobjebkirk]

1 hour ago, Minmus Taster said:

TELL ME HOW YOU DID THOSE FX!!!! please?

Most of them were the results of importing screenshots into Paint.net, making them black and white, increasing the brightness and contrast a bit, shrinking them, and adding a little bit of noise.

EDIT: also a few have some clouds that I put on an upper layer with low opacity and then merged downwards.

Edited May 11, 2021 by billbobjebkirk

[macc92]

Sorry if I'm going over old ground here but I've tried looking through the thread and looking on github, but whats the status with the Soyuz rescale patch? The last thing I saw on it was septemberWaves' testing on it back on page 805

[Beale]

13 hours ago, billbobjebkirk said:

To express my appreciation for this mod, here are a few scenes from the Soviet-style science save I've been playing since January:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

The 1MM Probes pushed the early boundaries of spaceflight, becoming the first visitors to the Mun and Minmus, though their visits were all too short.

 

After many failed attempts, Kosmos 23 became the first successful flight of the USPR's space capsule. Many more tests were needed before it would be ready for crews, but a great destiny was already ahead.

 

First Kosmonaut Yebedia salutes the recovery crews after toughing down at the conclusion of the first mission in the age of Kerbal Spaceflight.

 

A Muna-K rocket sits on the pad, waiting for the moment just a day away when it will receive the pilot for the Mechta 2 mission, which will be the first to spend over a day in orbit.

 

The Muna-K rockets for Mechta 3 and its following mission wait on the pads for their launches, scheduled a day apart. Unfortunately, with Mechta 3 aborted for medical reasons, it would be months before that second launch would ever take place.

 

The 2MM probes would carry on the legacy of the Muna and Minmia missions before, allowing for the first time mapping and landing missions rather than simple flybys and impacts. But first, there were countless problems that had to be worked out, and many harsh failures to endure.

 

Mechta 7 captures Mechta 6 during a lengthy close approach during the ambitious dual mission. Not only are the two vessels the first ever to perform an orbital rendezvous, they are also the first to carry more than one Kosmonaut, with Mechta 6 carrying two male and 7 two female. This mission was the last moment of true supremacy for the USPR's program.

 

Kosmonaut Valentina becomes the first Kosmonaut to perform a spacewalk on her second flight in orbit. Unfortunately, the other goals of the Mechta 10 mission ended in failure, and the rivals had matched its goals months before.

 

Liftoff for the ill-fated Mechta 12, which failed to reach orbit to rendezvous with Mechta 11 for an ambitious docking mission for the first crewed flight of the new 5K capsule. The near-disasters faced by both missions could not have come at a worse time for the program, as it saw itself eclipsed by an ascendant capitalist Mun program.

 

Muna 11, the first successful Mun landing by the USPR, captures its descent shell and Kerbin in a single image.

 

Engineer-Kosmonaut Kirvan of Mechta 14 performs an EVA to board Rassvet, the rudimentary space station and first in the world.

 

Desperate to one-up the ambitious and successful capitalist Mun program, the heavy T1 rocket boosts Kosmonaut Bilybobski on his Skachok 1 mission to become the first Kerbal to step foot on Minmus. The mission barely edged out the rival Minmus program, though it came at quite the expense.

 

Engineer-Kosmonaut Bilybobski's photo of the Minmia T-1 habitat, which would serve as his home for the next year as he awaited the completion of the deep-space vehicles capable of returning him home.

 

 

wow, fantastic cover of screenshots! I really enjoy to see things remixed this way.

10 hours ago, macc92 said:

Sorry if I'm going over old ground here but I've tried looking through the thread and looking on github, but whats the status with the Soyuz rescale patch? The last thing I saw on it was septemberWaves' testing on it back on page 805

I think @septemberWaves was going to look at a bunch of configs in one go, but unfortunately I haven't heard from them in a while. I think for now it is on ice.

[si2504]

10 hours ago, macc92 said:

Sorry if I'm going over old ground here but I've tried looking through the thread and looking on github, but whats the status with the Soyuz rescale patch? The last thing I saw on it was septemberWaves' testing on it back on page 805

What exactly was the rescale patch supposed to scale it to? I have a bunch of rescaled and RO configs for Tantares that I created for my ISS build project.

[macc92]

5 minutes ago, si2504 said:

What exactly was the rescale patch supposed to scale it to? I have a bunch of rescaled and RO configs for Tantares that I created for my ISS build project.

It rescaled the diameter of the Soyuz upper stage and upper cone stage to a size about 1.5m across, since the real thing is right between the 1.25 and 1.875 sizes the mod sticks to

[si2504]

Just now, macc92 said:

It rescaled the diameter of the Soyuz upper stage and upper cone stage to a size about 1.5m across, since the real thing is right between the 1.25 and 1.875 sizes the mod sticks to

My configs scale the FGB, Service module, Soyuz and Progress all to real life scale. They do incorporate Realfuels and life support systems also though. I'm currently in the process of putting all my rescaled RSS/RO configs for Tantares, Habtech and a few other mods onto my Github page. If @Bealewould like any of the configs for rescaled parts for RSS/RO configs, maybe he could link them for people in the OP?

[billbobjebkirk]

7 hours ago, Beale said:

wow, fantastic cover of screenshots! I really enjoy to see things remixed this way.

Thanks! It's been a bit since Skachok 1 launched and not much has happened since then, but my semester is wrapping up now so I may be able to show you more soon!

[septemberWaves]

13 hours ago, Beale said:

I think @septemberWaves was going to look at a bunch of configs in one go, but unfortunately I haven't heard from them in a while. I think for now it is on ice.

For the 1.5m Soyuz parts? It's possible I may have forgotten to send you the fixed files, but it's nothing complicated. I found the original files in one of the 1.8 versions of TantaresLV and the only thing that needed updating was the parts folder because it had been renamed with different capitalization between versions for some reason.

EDIT: Just double-checked our private messages. It's not an actual file because I couldn't figure out how to attach one on the forums, but I pasted the complete config file for you a while back under a readmore, and all that's needed is to copypaste it and put it into the folder that I mentioned in the message.

Edited May 12, 2021 by septemberWaves

[finkmac]

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Difference 8 years makes. Nice to have a flexible soviet-style stations kit, but I sure do miss the IVAs and little nifty features from the old mods.

Not sure if I should wait for SOCK Buran before I launch Kristall.... Need to make sure those docking ports are compatible