Female kerbals and the original 3

[RainDreamer]

With the inclusion of female kerbal coming to 1.0, what do you think will happen to the original 3? Jebediah, Bill, and Bob seems to already be canonically male, and I feel a certain sense of attachment to them. But in that case, that would mean there would not be any female kerbalnaut in the core team at all, and that is under-representation! (not really, but I think at least a female kerbal in beginning to balance out things would be nice.)

So what do you think would happen?

1. No changes. Original 3 stay the same.

2. One or two of the member will be switch out with female kerbals. May have name change, maybe not.

3. ALL of them becomes female kerbals!

4. Core team expand with more members, including female kerbals. Maybe with just 1 extra member, maybe a whole 3 new female kerbals for 3 professions, being the female core team.

5. We get no original team anymore.

6. We get to choose 3 from a list of kerbals in beginning for our core teams, including the original 3 and extra.

7. Something else?

Edited February 11, 2015 by RainDreamer

[CptRichardson]

6: Something else, likely a female 'Original 3' as counterparts, or just a Jeb Badass-flagged counterpart.

[KerbMav]

Whenever I am in for a good nightmare, I will try to imagine the reaction of the community to the removal of one of the original three Kerbals ...

[Umlüx]

never change a winning team!

i hope for 1 or 4 would be ok too i guess

[cicatrix]

Something else. I don't know what. From the one hand, it would be logical to include at least one female into the 'default' crew. From the other hand, I'd hate to not seeing the original three on their proper place.

[Engineer of Stuff]

I think that one female Kerbal should be added. The big 3 are all our heroes, and I think that adding more than one new member will hurt some players.

[PDCWolf]

This kind of thing is what crippled us with manned flight first in the tech tree cause MUH 3 CORE TEAM XDD. If the "core team" dies, better.

[Sampa]

I have SERIOUS doubts that they will dispense with the Original 3. More than likely, they will create a second team of female counterparts of similar set up as Bob, Bill, and Jebediah

[regex]

Get rid of the original three. Completely random Kerbals on new game is the way to go. Let's write our own stories.

[Brotoro]

Add Val to the original 4.

Also, Squad, please don't forget to make some of the mission controllers, scientists, administrators, etc. in the game female!

[FlyingPete]

I'd say leave the 'original three' as they are- no changes. Adding a fourth Kerbal to the original crew just for the sake of having a female at the start doesn't seem right.

Assuming the goal is for equality of the sexes, the applicant list should remain totally random- the code equivalent of throwing all the possible Kerbal names together and picking one. So no enforced 50:50 split or any such nonsense- you might get more female than male applicants, it might be the other way round. The point is, there's no prioritisation of one over the other.

[pxi]

I'd assume Valentina will be added to the original 3, essentially giving us an original 4.

Beyond that, the game doesn't really force you to use the original 3 in your missions. I don't really see a need to do much beyond that.

[regex]

Beyond that, the game doesn't really force you to use the original 3 in your missions. I don't really see a need to do much beyond that.

Well, actually, in career mode you are pretty much forced to use Jeb on all early flight missions since you can't fire them and you're limited to like, five Kerbals. Random Kerbals FTW.

[Nathair]

Get rid of the original three. Completely random Kerbals on new game is the way to go. Let's write our own stories.

I'm with you completely! Don't see it happening though.

[Wabbit]

Replace Bob. Nobody likes Bob. Either that, or have female counterparts.

[Renegrade]

Well, actually, in career mode you are pretty much forced to use Jeb on all early flight missions since you can't fire them and you're limited to like, five Kerbals. Random Kerbals FTW.

You CAN fire 'em as of 0.26. It just causes bugs and crashes (as with dying kerbals). Fortunately, Claw has a fix for that.

[klgraham1013]

If we're going to maintain a consistent starting group, I'd suggest expanding it to 6. That way we avoid the token female trope.

If I had it my way, starting Kerbals would be random.

Edited February 11, 2015 by klgraham1013

[The Yellow Dart]

I think when starting a new career you should be prompted to select 3 Kerbals to start with, who will always wear orange suits. In this scenario, a 6 person, 3 male 3 female, core team would fit well, along side a selection of random Kerbals, letting you choose who your planet's greatest heroes will be.

[Robotengineer]

I prefer random Kerbals as well. Have Jeb, Bob, and Bill randomly generated throughout the save.

[Greenfire32]

Just keep the 3 originals for those of us who've gotten rather attached to good ol' Bill, Bob, and Jeb, and then have the randomly generated Kerbal list include at least 50% Male & Female.

Boom. All parties satisfied.

Not sure why every little thing has to become this over-complicated "how should we do this?" kind of debate. They're not humans. Male & Female representation shouldn't even be a thing that matters in this case.

/opinionz

[basic.syntax]

The first announcement said that specially named Valentina would be joining the KSC team. I don't recall seeing a formal announcement that other females will be added to the flight crew, but they definitely should be, its hinted by danRosas comments about progress of animation rigging.

[regex]

I think when starting a new career you should be prompted to select 3 Kerbals to start with, who will always wear orange suits. In this scenario, a 6 person, 3 male 3 female, core team would fit well, along side a selection of random Kerbals, letting you choose who your planet's greatest heroes will be.

I really like this idea so long as there are at least 18 total Kerbals to choose from fitting all the different "roles". Gives a wider choice of names.

[Slam_Jones]

Get rid of the original three. Completely random Kerbals on new game is the way to go. Let's write our own stories.

As much as I like this idea, I think you should have the option to name your OG 3, or keep their default names. Stats and jobs stay the same.

As for the poll question, I imagine they'll just expand the 3 to include a female.

[GusTurbo]

I think when starting a new career you should be prompted to select 3 Kerbals to start with, who will always wear orange suits. In this scenario, a 6 person, 3 male 3 female, core team would fit well, along side a selection of random Kerbals, letting you choose who your planet's greatest heroes will be.

Good idea that I can get on board with.

[Pthigrivi]

Original 6. Add 3 gals in orange suits. I'll never understand why people are so precious about this.