Superfluous J Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Will be interesting to see the game function beyond the2.5km bubble. I foresee renewed talk of space elevators. Obviously not on Kerbin though.I hadn't thought of that. Sadly, Gilly's synchronous orbit is the tightest of all worlds' and it's over 3x farther than the bubble at 42km. So you couldn't even build a space elevator and be in the middle of it (to use the entire 25km stretch).And even if it was, you'd only accomplish a Krakening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delder92663 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I hadn't thought of that. Sadly, Gilly's synchronous orbit is the tightest of all worlds' and it's over 3x farther than the bubble at 42km. So you couldn't even build a space elevator and be in the middle of it (to use the entire 25km stretch).And even if it was, you'd only accomplish a Krakening.I'm new enough to the game that I'm not too familiar with all the bodies yet. I figured there would be a small moon that it could make sense but I guess not. Still a lot of implications.The space tether experiment NASA conducted years ago would be possible. Just excited to explore the possibilites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I hadn't thought of that. Sadly, Gilly's synchronous orbit is the tightest of all worlds' and it's over 3x farther than the bubble at 42km. So you couldn't even build a space elevator and be in the middle of it (to use the entire 25km stretch).And even if it was, you'd only accomplish a Krakening.I'm new enough to the game that I'm not too familiar with all the bodies yet. I figured there would be a small moon that it could make sense but I guess not. Still a lot of implications.The space tether experiment NASA conducted years ago would be possible. Just excited to explore the possibilites.You know what? I actually screwed up. The bubble is 22.5km not 12.5km. So TECHNICALLY you could build something 21km long and attach it upright to Gilly, then build something else 21km long and attach it to the top of that thing, and then ...... watch the Kraken eat it alive. Let's be serious. But in theory it would all fit in the physics bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delder92663 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 You know what? I actually screwed up. The bubble is 22.5km not 12.5km. So TECHNICALLY you could build something 21km long and attach it upright to Gilly, then build something else 21km long and attach it to the top of that thing, and then ...... watch the Kraken eat it alive. Let's be serious. But in theory it would all fit in the physics bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GusTurbo Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I'm not sure this has been tested, but I was under the impression that the bubble only applied with respect to two different craft, not a single extra-long craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I'm not sure this has been tested, but I was under the impression that the bubble only applied with respect to two different craft, not a single extra-long craft.I don't think it CAN be tested. The game would eat the whole planet before you could get something that big.But if you COULD in theory get something 42km long attached to the surface of Gilly, and you COULD get a ship in orbit near it, would it load? Currently OR with the expanded physics bubble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geb Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I don't think it CAN be tested. The game would eat the whole planet before you could get something that big.But if you COULD in theory get something 42km long attached to the surface of Gilly, and you COULD get a ship in orbit near it, would it load? Currently OR with the expanded physics bubble?It should be fairly easy to test, if you can use savefile editing to create a craft with one of its components displaced 30km to one side.It wouldn't have to have a ridiculous number of parts, nor require any modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delder92663 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 It should be fairly easy to test, if you can use savefile editing to create a craft with one of its components displaced 30km to one side.It wouldn't have to have a ridiculous number of parts, nor require any modding.Nice suggestion. Will try it for fun but I'd just assume the craft will end up being kraken bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody_1707 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) About planets....I think it would be amazing if after 1.0, we had planet packs. We have them now, but it would be cool to have official planet packs, that aren't part of a mod, just more stock planets. (I think i remember squad saying something about having DLCs)They were going to make multiplayer a payed for DLC, but then a very vocal minority went [guano] insane over the idea, so I'm not sure we'll ever get any. The only real upside to this is that multiplayer is now a confirmed feature for a post 1.0 free update. Edited April 9, 2015 by Red Iron Crown Easy with the language, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GusTurbo Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 They were going to make multiplayer a payed for DLC, but then a very vocal minority went [guano] insane over the idea, so I'm not sure we'll ever get any. The only real upside to this is that multiplayer is now a confirmed feature for a post 1.0 free update.They were not going to make multiplayer a paid DLC. People went insane about the idea of any feature being paid DLC due to an ambiguous comment Harvester made one time, not based on any actual plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFUN Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) They were not going to make multiplayer a paid DLC. People went insane about the idea of any feature being paid DLC due to an ambiguous comment Harvester made one time, not based on any actual plans.For clarification, they are going to make multiplayer a free update and I am not horribly mistaken. probably Edited April 9, 2015 by NFUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 For clarification, they are going to make multiplayer a free update unless I am horribly mistaken.That is the most current information about multiplayer, correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GusTurbo Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 For clarification, they are going to make multiplayer a free update unless I am horribly mistaken.Yes, multiplayer will be just like any other update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguelycan Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I do remember a lot of drama surrounding what he said. I can't remember all the details about it but I did think he went above and beyond what I thought would be fair on his part. I think I remember something about their being a deadline of when you bought it that included all future content for free, not just updates. It may have changed since then but I do remember something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric S Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 *Heatshield as separate part You should probably clarify this, the original post linked to said that they may be added, not that they were confirmed to be adding heat shields as standalone parts, and the 4/10 squadcast clearly stated that they have not added standalone heatshields. Probably a minor oversight, since you do include a statement from that same squadcast about the potential for fairings to function as heatshields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I'm still kind of curious about the ore. Will we be able to store it in the fuel tanks, or will it be insta-processed into Fuel and Oxidizer? Will it cost enough to bring it back and recover for profit? If so I hope sliding the slider in difficulty options all the way down will increase it's cost as it is more rare in the solar system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyInTsv Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 erm... I share your hope, I really do, but I'm not *entirely* sure about this one. It really depends on how far up they separate and more importantly: what speed and angle you're going/accellerating at. When I was experimenting with RATO (Rocket Assisted Take-Off) on my spaceplanes, I was already able to recover the boosters from under the wings with the current physics bubble by setting the chutes to open at 50m above ground, but it's a different matter entirely when using rockets.If you use the larges SRB's currently available in stock, you're likely to ditch them somewhere around the 10km mark (assuming a regular ascent profile) and you'll be going pretty fast when you do, probably over 200m/s. The booster will fall to the ground, but you'll probably be accelarating away from it faster than it is falling. Add to that the fact that its travel time to the gorund is amplified by the thicker atmoshpere and the chutes, and you'll find that they'll likely leave physics bubble before they hit the ground.That being said, there's a LOT of balance changes in the works. Maybe it will work in 1.0 (God I hope it does, I REALLY would like downrange SRB recovery). But as with everything in life: hope for the bet, prepare for the worst. But still hope for the best of course.I was considering this more for landing at the end of a mission. Instead of separating crew module from the science and support module just prior to landing and risk landing on it or having it land on the crew module (both of which have happened to me), separate much higher, popping it's chutes so it will land further away but still land because it's still within the physics bubble.Being able to recover ascent stages would be good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vfernandez84 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 They were going to make multiplayer a payed for DLC, but then a very vocal minority went [guano] insane over the idea, so I'm not sure we'll ever get any. The only real upside to this is that multiplayer is now a confirmed feature for a post 1.0 free update.Correct.And the downside being that usually the choice is not between "free DLC" or "paid DLC", but between "paid DLC" or "no DLC"...As a license owner, I would have prefered to pay for a huge amount of DLCs, over to receive one or two basic DLCs for free and nothing more.A pity, in my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlubber Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I hope they keep the aero simple-less turbulence and complex formulas. I'm not saying keeping in unrealistic, just similar to NEAR.I don't want to have to learn aerophysics as well as astro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daze Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 I hope they keep the aero simple-less turbulence and complex formulas. I'm not saying keeping in unrealistic, just similar to NEAR.I don't want to have to learn aerophysics as well as astro. NEAR = FAR without mach >1 physics and that useful tool in VAB/SPH (It was a joke by Ferram to all the people screaming at too much realism of FAR)It's just placebo that NEAR is good and easy and FAR is super difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovus Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 This seems the closest thread. Has there been any news on whether or not they're fixing the can't undock bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alshain Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm still kind of curious about the ore. Will we be able to store it in the fuel tanks, or will it be insta-processed into Fuel and Oxidizer? Will it cost enough to bring it back and recover for profit? If so I hope sliding the slider in difficulty options all the way down will increase it's cost as it is more rare in the solar system.If it's going to be like Karbonite, there is no point in storing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric S Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It's just placebo that NEAR is good and easy and FAR is super difficultNot entirely, my only input on how NEAR should differ from FAR was that I found the shifting COL past mach 1 to be a pain, and that's one thing NEAR dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If it's going to be like Karbonite, there is no point in storing it.But... But I want to sell it : ( I want my own Nostromo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainKipard Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 A Tweet from Max shows Valentina riding a "Rocket" in an external seat. Would that be considered confirmed external seat launches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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