One day, i'll be making a bigger one to get a Kerbal to Eve and back, with 3000 5000 ore units from Eve to Gilly in Direct Ascent style, a hopefully good way to make Big rockets (i'm interested in big rockets and that'll be another installment of Centurion Rockets, that large Eve lander is an installment of Centurion Rockets, 3rd largest by now with nearly 6000 total mass, only 2 tons below the 2nd), i'll be doing that after my Ultimate Challenge, the Smaller Eve Lander (Name : Grizzly Reaper) will take part in my Ultimate Challenge, also just saying, @Reinhart Mk.1, looks like you're older than me (i'm 17).