technicalfool Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 What is your favorite forum section?I don't know if I have a favourite section. I used to spend most of my time in Suggestions & Development Discussion. However, after getting the green name, it seems I spend more and more of my time in places like this:Click for larger version*sigh* It's all gotten far too serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernovy Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 What would your advice be for aspiring future/potential moderators?People who want to be moderators don't make good moderators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderSpock Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 People who want to be moderators don't make good moderators.Well that's kind of limiting, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technicalfool Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) Well that's kind of limiting, isn't it?Every one of us, that I know of, applied rather than got picked, however there's reasons for doing so. If your reason is "I want a funny coloured username and a banhammer", that's probably not a good reason.Edit: Apparently Sal, Kasper and Snovy were picked. And I'm betting Moach didn't apply either... Edited September 29, 2015 by technicalfool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampa Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Every one of us, that I know of, applied rather than got picked, however there's reasons for doing so. If your reason is "I want a funny coloured username and a banhammer", that's probably not a good reason.Yeah, if that ever happened, i'd leave immediately...Back on topic:If you close a thread and the owner feels that the reason was caused by misunderstanding the purpose of the thread, are you open to his/her appealing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 If you close a thread and the owner feels that the reason was caused by misunderstanding the purpose of the thread, are you open to his/her appealing?All moderation action is open to appeal. The action will be reviewed by another moderator and possibly reversed (though this is quite rare as we discuss most moderation action amongst ourselves).PSA: You don't own threads you start. Things will go a lot smoother if people realized this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampa Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 All moderation action is open to appeal. The action will be reviewed by another moderator and possibly reversed (though this is quite rare as we discuss most moderation action amongst ourselves).PSA: You don't own threads you start. Things will go a lot smoother if people realized this.I apologize, poor choice in wording on my part.- - - Updated - - -On the topic of appeals, is there a prefered method in which to make the appeal as far as who we contact or how we word things (for the most respectful manner)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Not really meant for you in particular, Sampa, but as a general PSA. Some people seem to think that a thread they start belongs to them, and that they should be able to make and enforce rules in it. This is not the case, threads belong to the community and the rules are made by Squad and enforced by the moderation team.On the topic of appeals, is there a prefered method in which to make the appeal as far as who we contact or how we word things (for the most respectful manner)?Never, ever in public, we have a rule about that. It is best done in PM with the moderator who performed the action you wish to contest, or if you'd rather, to a more senior moderator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampa Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Ok, that is fair (in every case). Thank you for your swift response, on both questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) People who want to be moderators don't make good moderators.Wow, actually... From someone that has been a moderator in a few forums, that is not necessarily true. In the case of the now-nonexistant unofficial forum we had running for SimCity 3000, I did get my first taste at moderating - we had a lot to do - like make sure we enforced Maxis' rules on mods, policing the comments, etc. What I liked about being a moderator is it actually gave me more of a reason to surf the site, to solve problems while they were small, and to just get the opportunity to help shape the forum. There's always something fascinating about how forums operate - or at least I enjoy the challenge. I would jump on the opportunity, if so granted, to get back into moderating a forum - providing it is a forum for something I enjoy or have confidence in (such as the ongoing development of KSP). So, no, for me it is not about getting a funny colored name or some sort of icon to indicate I am a moderator (in fact, in the forum for SC3000, I do not even think I ever uploaded an avatar ), about using the skills I have gained by moderating in the past, helping the forum and the support for the game expand to its fullest potential, and at the same time, the ability to give back to a community that has given me so much. Edited September 28, 2015 by adsii1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderSpock Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Every one of us, that I know of, applied rather than got picked, however there's reasons for doing so. If your reason is "I want a funny coloured username and a banhammer", that's probably not a good reason.Ah, okay.You see, I would love to become a moderator, but more because I love solving problems and being able to give back in ways I couldn't without it. Personally, I don't even care for the colors whatsoever, because I feel it distances you from the community a bit. But I would still do it in q heartbeat if I could.Question:Do you feel like becoming a moderator has limited your time to making posts and commenting on things unrelated to moderating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristonwilson12 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I believe if I became a moderator. It wouldn't change anything I would do. (Besides the moderation stuff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenpeach Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (...)Question:Do you feel like becoming a moderator has limited your time to making posts and commenting on things unrelated to moderating?Not really. I'm just more cautious about what I post, and sometime I decided to not post what I would probably have posted if I was not a moderator.This is a rare event thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampa Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I have spent some time as a moderator on a seperate forum...not very fun at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Do mods ever give infractions to each other, if warranted? How bout as jokes? What is the best joke you've played on another mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specialist290 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Going back through the slate a little:Do you have pre-written texts that you just paste on these extremely generic (and often incomplete) threads such as: "My KSP crash, help me !" or "Why can't I use SAS with only a scientist piloting my ship ?" ? I don't have very many copypasta-like texts, but I do try to have links to helpful resources on hand that explain things in detail so I don't have to. That was one of my big motivations for putting together and maintaining the Drawing Board.What would your advice be for aspiring future/potential moderators?The big one I'd give? Be helpful, be positive, be constructive. Nothing demonstrates concern for a community's well-being like a willingness to volunteer your time and brainpower to helping new (and some not-so-new) members with any questions they may have and encouraging those who have shown particular skill or ambition in creating add-ons or fan content. Demonstrating maturity and thoughtfulness in your regular posting activity is also a major advantage.None of this means you can't have a little fun from time to time, of course Is giving a poster a heads up about potentially breaking a rule to give them a chance to fix it if they didn't realize it was wrong considered backseat moderating?In my own assessment it's all about context, really, and particularly whether or not it appears to be in good faith. Something like "Hey, you forgot to put a license up for your mod download, might wanna fix that" will most likely get a pass; something like "OMG necro / rule-breaking content, mods plz lock!" will typically get a PM or a yellow card at least, depending on how much of a pattern you make of posting like that.What is your favorite forum section?I'm rather fond of Gameplay Questions and Tutorials, the Spacecraft Exchange, and Fan Works and their associated subforums, largely because they're such great showcases of all the best aspects of the community as a whole (creativity, helpfulness, celebration of others' accomplishments).Wow, actually... From someone that has ran forums before and have been a moderator in a few forums, that is not necessarily true. In the case of the now-nonexistant unofficial forum we had running for SimCity 3000, I did get my first taste at moderating - we had a lot to do - like make sure we enforced Maxis' rules on mods, policing the comments, etc. What I liked about being a moderator is it actually gave me more of a reason to surf the site, to solve problems while they were small, and to just get the opportunity to help shape the forum. There's always something fascinating about how forums operate - or at least I enjoy the challenge. I would jump on the opportunity, if so granted, to get back into moderating a forum - providing it is a forum for something I enjoy or have confidence in (such as the ongoing development of KSP). So, no, for me it is not about getting a funny colored name or some sort of icon to indicate I am a moderator (in fact, in the forum for SC3000, I do not even think I ever uploaded an avatar ), about using the skills I have gained by moderating in the past, helping the forum and the support for the game expand to its fullest potential, and at the same time, the ability to give back to a community that has given me so much.I don't think Supernovy meant that wanting to be a moderator necessarily means you'll be a bad moderator by default (though the way it was phrased may not have made it apparent). Rather, making an unsolicited request to become a moderator sometimes sets off alarm bells because people can get the impression that they want to be a moderator for the wrong reasons. It's not something that'll automatically disqualify you from ever becoming a moderator henceforward and forever, of course, but it is something we take into account when we do make selections to fill open moderation posts (though it's not necessarily weighed quite as heavily as general forum behavior).EDIT: Oh hey, a few others popped up:Do you feel like becoming a moderator has limited your time to making posts and commenting on things unrelated to moderating?Maybe slightly, but I've always been rather tight-lipped when I've felt I can't say something that someone else has already covered well enough before me.Do mods ever give infractions to each other, if warranted? How bout as jokes? What is the best joke you've played on another mod?Not infractions per se, but if a moderator misbehaves or appears to have gone off like a loose cannon, we do have ways to address them. I can't remember any particular incidents where a mod was ever explicitly asked to leave the team off the top of my head, but a few have left over policy decisions they disagreed with and could not enforce in good faith. (No, don't ask for names or details.)As for jokes, the funniest incident I remember was the one time that everyone in our Devious Lair of Fiendish Deviousness private moderator chat changed our usernames to something that looked like an absent member's nickname in order to mess with their head when they logged in. Of course, by the time they did log in, we all had already forgotten which name variation belonged to whom, which led to rather more confusion than we had intended. Edited September 29, 2015 by Specialist290 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuoDex Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Do mods ever give infractions to each other, if warranted? How bout as jokes? What is the best joke you've played on another mod?"Actual" infractions cannot be sent. But fake PMs can, which resemble infraction messages. Usually as jokes. The best joke ever was probably played on me, when I was in class and Exps were imminent. The other mods decided it would be funny to pretend Experimentals were released and were chock-full of exciting new features that I hadn't expected.Of course, they weren't even out yet. I was a sad DuoDex that day. Apply to Red Iron Crown for logs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernovy Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Question:Do you feel like becoming a moderator has limited your time to making posts and commenting on things unrelated to moderating?I think I've mentioned this before, but yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampa Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I have seen a few of my forum friends are friends with a moderator or two. How often does this occur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I have seen a few of my forum friends are friends with a moderator or two. How often does this occur?I don't think I've ever turned down a friend request, but neither do I let it affect how I would moderate them if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Every one of us, that I know of, applied rather than got picked... I was impressed by the British. It was like the War of 1812 all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampa Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Despite all the obvious signs to remind you, have you ever forgotten that you were a moderator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Despite all the obvious signs to remind you, have you ever forgotten that you were a moderator?To be completely frank, I did a few times when I was first made a moderator. Not so much in the sense of forgetting that I was a mod, but I would post something and the other mods would say something along the lines of "That's not something a moderator should say, Red." There was definitely an adjustment period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technicalfool Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Despite all the obvious signs to remind you, have you ever forgotten that you were a moderator?Nope, though I have spent that much time in Twitch channels with a sword that sometimes the log goes like this:Technicalfool: That's the Tweakscale mod available here: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/112693Nightbot: Yeah, I see you do that thing. Stop doing that thing! (no links) (warning)Technicalfool: Oh fudge. Hello, Nighty.Addle42: LOL, poor tech.Addle42: !permit technicalfool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 How long have you been a moderator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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