Tex Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Just now, kiwi1960 said: When I first joined the forums, I started a thread about Kerbal conspiracy theories.... Do you happen to have a link to said thread(s)? Maybe we can look into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andem Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Maximus97 said: Do you happen to have a link to said thread(s)? Maybe we can look into it. I think the one he means is called "Illuminati." Can be found in forum games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi1960 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Maximus97 said: Do you happen to have a link to said thread(s)? Maybe we can look into it. We are talking years ago.... but I'll do my best.... Here it is.... Yeah.... read that thread again, even more angry now... I feel like abusing the Moderators so I'll go away and come back later. Really.... seems to be one law for some... and another for people like me..... I'm going to sharpen my axe..... Edited August 10, 2016 by kiwi1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_vager Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 20 minutes ago, kiwi1960 said: OK.... time to ask that very very hard question.... When I first joined the forums, I started a thread about Kerbal conspiracy theories.... people were having fun with it.... then a Mod locked it saying "any" conspiracy theories were not allowed.... even fun ones involving KSP.... Now... someone else has started a similar thread and ... nothing.... apparently... its not about conspiracies at all... its about who starts the thread.... right? (yeah.... even after all this time it still bugs the hell out of me.... at the very least, you moderators owe me an apology..... I mean, either its against the rules or not.... ) 16 minutes ago, kiwi1960 said: We are talking years ago.... but I'll do my best.... Here it is.... Yeah.... read that thread again, even more angry now... I feel like abusing the Moderators so I'll go away and come back later. Really.... seems to be one law for some... and another for people like me..... I'm going to sharpen my axe..... Kiwi, that was posted in 2013, the rules back then were worded differently to how they are worded now, the rules did used to ban all conspiracies regardless of validity, now rule 2.2 forbids 'Accusatory comments that lack merit, offer no proof of concept or are of a potentially slanderous nature;' You're comparing apples to oranges here, and making the false claim that you were unfairly treated, when under the rules in 2013 your post was forbidden. So it's not the thread starter, it's the content, and the rules that govern that content have changed over time. It was against the rules, now it's not against the rules to make joke conspiracy threads. You are not owed an apology, quite the reverse actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andem Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, sal_vager said: You are not owed an apology, quite the reverse actually. While I personally may disagree with @stupid_chris or any other mod needing to apologize, I don't see why the inverse is any more true. The escalation here seems disproportionate to the matter at hand, but please correct me if I'm wrong here... --EDIT-- All right, reading through the exchange once again the aggression seems to be much more justified. Sorry. Edited August 10, 2016 by Andem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_vager Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Andem said: While I personally may disagree with @stupid_chris or any other mod needing to apologize, I don't see why the inverse is any more true. The escalation here seems disproportionate to the matter at hand, but please correct me if I'm wrong here... --EDIT-- All right, reading through the exchange once again the aggression seems to be much more justified. Sorry. Well, the moderation team is being accused of applying rules unfairly, but those rules have changed in 3 years. That's a trifle unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi1960 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, sal_vager said: Well, the moderation team is being accused of applying rules unfairly, but those rules have changed in 3 years. That's a trifle unfair. My point to "stupid chris" at the time was that it wasn't really a conspiracy theory if it came from a make believe game... it was using "conspiracy theory" in name only to poke fun at the whole thing without making it seem real. It was posted in the FUN area for just that... it wasn't posted in any serious debate area. The rules should be applied with give and take, because if you are seriously going to apply the letter of the law to all threads, then they would all be locked ... example: talking about killing Kerbals could be seen as threatening to kill, no matter that the Kerbals do not really exist... or do they.... is that a conspiracy theory? See.... give and take... the letter of the law was wrongly applied all those years ago. However.... I won't comment again on this matter. Edited August 11, 2016 by kiwi1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_vager Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, kiwi1960 said: However.... I won't comment again on this matter. That's probably for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi1960 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, sal_vager said: That's probably for the best. Besides... I have other things.... to raise with the Moderators..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_vager Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 1 minute ago, kiwi1960 said: Besides... I have other things.... to raise with the Moderators..... Other rules that have changed in 3 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinkAllKerb'' Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) aren't they engraved in stone (oops series but ; oh well) ^^ ) Edited August 11, 2016 by WinkAllKerb'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 13 hours ago, WinkAllKerb'' said: aren't they engraved in stone (oops series but ; oh well) ^^ ) Who told you that? Someone told me they were painted on the side of a barn, so everyone could see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 Ok, moderation team, I'm dissapointed in you. I expect you to be as clear and transparent as possible about things on the forums, within the limits of user privacy. So, why wasn't there an announcement about @Deddly making moderator? This is completely unacceptable! Who else have you been hiding from us? The above post is mostly sarcastic. Of course, congratulations to Deddly and all the other new members of the moderation team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snark Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 12 hours ago, Dman979 said: So, why wasn't there an announcement about @Deddly making moderator? This is completely unacceptable! Who else have you been hiding from us? Moderators... they walk among us. (cue eerie music) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 19 hours ago, Dman979 said: So, why wasn't there an announcement about @Deddly making moderator? other new members of the moderation team. We don't usually make announcements about changes to the moderation team, though sometimes a user will start one when they notice. Also: Nice whitetext. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Red Iron Crown said: We don't usually make announcements about changes to the moderation team, though sometimes a user will start one when they notice. Also: Nice whitetext. Haha, thanks. Will there be a change made to the "Your Moderators" list? I didn't see one yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, Dman979 said: Will there be a change made to the "Your Moderators" list? I didn't see one yesterday. Yes, I think KasperVld is going to look at it when he returns from his travels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andem Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 When you became moderators, did any of you delete your old threads that never went anywhere or were just cringy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Andem said: When you became moderators, did any of you delete your old threads that never went anywhere or were just cringy? Can't speak for the others, but I did not. My pre-moderation posts are all still there, warts and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 That would have been a mis-use of our access, and if anyone of us had tried it anyway, the boss guys would still see the activity. Most of our moderation activity is visible to our fellow moderators, and the guys with admin powers can see everything we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Ugh, I read "posts" instead of "threads". Used to be you could delete your own posts, mod or not. @Vanamonde is of course correct, deleting threads because they didn't go our way would not be appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andem Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I figured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 7 hours ago, Andem said: I figured. They're all much too reasonable people for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Baron Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) Hello, just a question, pls.: was the thread on climate change things removed ? Even in my profile there's no trace of the nonsense i gave away. Reminds me of one of the Star-Trek movies where they realize they are missing something and turn back just to find out about a deadly encounter .... i think the cortical node of 7of9 had a diffe ... ah forget it. Just a question, no criticism :-) Edit: no, it was Data's internal clock ! Edited August 26, 2016 by Green Baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Quote just a question, pls.: was the thread on climate change things removed ? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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