[1.12.5] Bluedog Design Bureau - Stockalike Saturn, Apollo, and more! (v1.14.0 "металл" 30/Sep/2024)

Rodger · July 11, 2017

On 08/07/2017 at 9:06 AM, MaverickSawyer said:

Hmm... the mini decoupler seems to have a SEVERE lateral kick to the left (in the VAB) when firing..

Yeah I can confirm this, here's a before/after decoupling a small booster which is placed in 90° symmetry:

http://i.imgur.com/L7sC3kp.png and after http://i.imgur.com/XtUPgfM.png

And the 1.875m Titan radial decoupler seems to have it's two surface attachment nodes swapped. This is what happens when you just place a booster on one without any rotating of parts:

http://i.imgur.com/zaVSH7k.png

Note the booster inside the core stage. Placing the decoupler on the corealso seems to place it a bit under the surface of the core. And even if I rotate everything to make it look right, I get explosions when staging away spent boosters using these decouplers. So not all bad!

Enorats · July 11, 2017

Noticed that Near Future Tech now has a launcher pack and I figured I'd try it out with the rest of the NFT mods and Kerbal Atomics/Cryogenic Engines.

Before I do though, I thought I'd ask.. is BDB compatible with NFT and its cryo engines/boiloff mechanic?

MaverickSawyer · July 11, 2017

It is! I've used the Inon engine in place of the Cryo Engines 1.25m vacuum engine for a while now... it provides significantly better dV for an otherwise identical craft.

CobaltWolf · July 11, 2017

37 minutes ago, Enorats said:

Noticed that Near Future Tech now has a launcher pack and I figured I'd try it out with the rest of the NFT mods and Kerbal Atomics/Cryogenic Engines.

Before I do though, I thought I'd ask.. is BDB compatible with NFT and its cryo engines/boiloff mechanic?

21 minutes ago, MaverickSawyer said:

It is! I've used the Inon engine in place of the Cryo Engines 1.25m vacuum engine for a while now... it provides significantly better dV for an otherwise identical craft.

Uhh, yeah I think we are. If @MaverickSawyer says we are, it's his fault if something breaks now

12 hours ago, Rodger said:

Yeah I can confirm this, here's a before/after decoupling a small booster which is placed in 90° symmetry:

http://i.imgur.com/L7sC3kp.png and after http://i.imgur.com/XtUPgfM.png

And the 1.875m Titan radial decoupler seems to have it's two surface attachment nodes swapped. This is what happens when you just place a booster on one without any rotating of parts:

http://i.imgur.com/zaVSH7k.png

Note the booster inside the core stage. Placing the decoupler on the corealso seems to place it a bit under the surface of the core. And even if I rotate everything to make it look right, I get explosions when staging away spent boosters using these decouplers. So not all bad!

Huh, I'll have to look into it. The Titan decoupler was fixed last night (Sunday?).

MaverickSawyer · July 11, 2017

Just now, CobaltWolf said:

If @MaverickSawyer says we are, it's his fault if something breaks now

Ehehehehe... Sure. :wink: I'll let you know if anything breaks and shove it your way.

In all seriousness, I JUST flew a mission earlier today using the Inon on an LH2/Ox tank, so yes, it's working well together.

CobaltWolf · July 11, 2017

6 minutes ago, MaverickSawyer said:

Ehehehehe... Sure. I'll let you know if anything breaks and shove it your way.

In all seriousness, I JUST flew a mission earlier today using the Inon on an LH2/Ox tank, so yes, it's working well together.

Ok

ALRIGHTY BOIS, LISTEN UP

So, as of... like 20 minutes ago we are 'soft locked' for content for the next release - everything I personally wanted to make sure was included. I'm still working on updating textures and stuff for the next couple days, specifically trying to bring the probe parts up to snuff, but it is what it is. @Jso is out of commission, so I need help combing the dev builds of the mod looking for trouble. In the meantime, here's the last two new parts for this release. @Drakenex, I know you've been waiting a LONG time for this...

Edited July 11, 2017 by CobaltWolf

Enorats · July 11, 2017

Awesome. Totally didn't want to have to choose between the two, lol.

Now if only I can figure out what's broken my sun's light in this kopernicus/sigma dimensions 2.5x rescale I'll be good to go. A project for tonight I guess.

Enorats · July 11, 2017

Lol, it's kinda sad that I knew what that was just based on the pictures and that this mod is recreating Apollo era architecture. Then again, I suppose there weren't all that many things it could have been.

MaverickSawyer · July 11, 2017

40 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said:

Ok

ALRIGHTY BOIS, LISTEN UP

So, as of... like 20 minutes ago we are 'soft locked' for content for the next release - everything I personally wanted to make sure was included. I'm still working on updating textures and stuff for the next couple days, specifically trying to bring the probe parts up to snuff, but it is what it is. @Jso is out of commission, so I need help combing the dev builds of the mod looking for trouble. In the meantime, here's the last two new parts for this release. @Drakenex, I know you've been waiting a LONG time for this...

(pic snip for space saving)

*unholy squeals of delight*

Will this add any new experiments?

Enorats · July 11, 2017

I think they had micrometeorite impacts, radiation detection, and a camera.. so BDB already has the parts needed in that regard.

Pappystein · July 12, 2017

4 hours ago, CobaltWolf said:

Ok

ALRIGHTY BOIS, LISTEN UP

So, as of... like 20 minutes ago we are 'soft locked' for content for the next release - everything I personally wanted to make sure was included. I'm still working on updating textures and stuff for the next couple days, specifically trying to bring the probe parts up to snuff, but it is what it is. @Jso is out of commission, so I need help combing the dev builds of the mod looking for trouble. In the meantime, here's the last two new parts for this release. @Drakenex, I know you've been waiting a LONG time for this...

So to quote a REALLY OLD video game..... " Mein Leben!"

But I REALLY like the texture update for the Agena parts.... and that probe is too cute and actually will fit under an approved Agena payload fairing!

Edited July 12, 2017 by Pappystein

Karamon · July 12, 2017

Will it work with RO ?

Gordon Dry · July 12, 2017

Is this known or already mentioned?

DragCubeSystem: Creating drag cubes for part 'bluedog.Apollo.Block3.Capsule'
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

IndexOutOfRangeException: Array index is out of range.
  at ModuleAnimateGeneric.AssumeDragCubePosition (System.String name) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at DragCubeSystem+<RenderDragCubes>c__Iterator1F.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (IEnumerator enumerator, IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine_Auto(IEnumerator)
UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine(IEnumerator)
<RenderDragCubesCoroutine>c__Iterator1E:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)
UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine_Auto(IEnumerator)
UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine(IEnumerator)
<SetupDragCubeCoroutine>c__Iterator20:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)
UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine_Auto(IEnumerator)
UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine(IEnumerator)
<CompileParts>c__Iterator66:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)
 
(Filename:  Line: -1)

or this?

[Part bluedog.agenaMediumTank] [ModuleB9PartSwitch 'fuelSwitch'] Switched subtype to LF/O
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at FerramAerospaceResearch.FARPartGeometry.GeometryModification.StockJettisonTransformGeoUpdater..ctor (.ModuleJettison engineFairing, FerramAerospaceResearch.FARPartGeometry.GeometryPartModule geoModule) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at FerramAerospaceResearch.FARPartGeometry.GeometryPartModule.SetupIGeometryUpdaters () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at FerramAerospaceResearch.FARPartGeometry.GeometryPartModule.Start () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
 
(Filename:  Line: -1)

and ...

A mesh on Bluedog Procedural Conic Fairing did not exist and was removed
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

...

[Part]: PartModule ModuleColliderHelper at bluedog.perfectron, index 14: index exceeds module count as defined in cfg.
Looking for ModuleColliderHelper in other indices...
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

...no ModuleColliderHelper module found on part definition. Skipping...
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

SmartRename.OnAwake 1
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

[Part]: PartModule ModuleColliderHelper at bluedog.retrotron, index 14: index exceeds module count as defined in cfg.
Looking for ModuleColliderHelper in other indices...
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

...no ModuleColliderHelper module found on part definition. Skipping...
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

SmartRename.OnAwake 1
 
[Part]: PartModule ModuleColliderHelper at bluedog.radialengine, index 14: index exceeds module count as defined in cfg.
Looking for ModuleColliderHelper in other indices...
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

...no ModuleColliderHelper module found on part definition. Skipping...
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)

and a few more of these "index exceeds".

Log:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ei6y6xdxjbn1dh9/2017-07-11-2 KSP.log.zip?dl=1

CobaltWolf · July 12, 2017

8 hours ago, Karamon said:

Will it work with RO ?

Not really. Some of the engines and the Apollo parts are configured. RO configs are managed by those people so if you want them, you'll need to bug them on their thread.

3 hours ago, Gordon Dry said:

Is this known or already mentioned?

and a few more of these "index exceeds".

Log:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ei6y6xdxjbn1dh9/2017-07-11-2 KSP.log.zip?dl=1

Gordon, you have so much stuff in your install that I don't think I'd even be able to begin untangling that to find issues. Honestly, as long as the game runs I'm not too worried about log errors at the moment. The big thing is making sure parts behave as intended - the radial decouplers issue, for instance, is being fixed right now.

Karamon · July 12, 2017

19 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said:

Not really. Some of the engines and the Apollo parts are configured. RO configs are managed by those people so if you want them, you'll need to bug them on their thread.

Ok thx , liked those engines when i was running RSS with SMURFF , your real plume configs are amazing

CobaltWolf · July 12, 2017

1 minute ago, Karamon said:

Ok thx , liked those engines when i was running RSS with SMURFF , your real plume configs are amazing

Thank @VenomousRequiem, that's all her.

CobaltWolf · July 12, 2017

Who likes probes?

Deltac · July 12, 2017

15 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said:

Who likes probes?

Pomegranates are delicious! I get mine rocket delivered everyday

MaverickSawyer · July 12, 2017

*quietly grabs the Vanguard, wraps it in a pomegranate skin, and throws it at Deltac*

Drakenex · July 12, 2017

On 7/11/2017 at 6:19 PM, CobaltWolf said:

@Drakenex, I know you've been waiting a LONG time for this...

but is finally here!! Thanks a lot!!!!

Shameless request: because I'm patient guy and I've always helped you whenever I can (hehehe), how difficult could be to push into the pipeline ETS Spacelab solar panels?

Edit: no LO on github

Edited July 12, 2017 by Drakenex

Kerbal01 · July 13, 2017

On 7/11/2017 at 4:35 AM, Rodger said:

Yeah I can confirm this, here's a before/after decoupling a small booster which is placed in 90° symmetry:

http://i.imgur.com/L7sC3kp.png and after http://i.imgur.com/XtUPgfM.png

And the 1.875m Titan radial decoupler seems to have it's two surface attachment nodes swapped. This is what happens when you just place a booster on one without any rotating of parts:

http://i.imgur.com/zaVSH7k.png

Note the booster inside the core stage. Placing the decoupler on the corealso seems to place it a bit under the surface of the core. And even if I rotate everything to make it look right, I get explosions when staging away spent boosters using these decouplers. So not all bad!

Same issue, glad to know its not something I did. Rotating the 1207's around so they face as they should seps cleanly but is a little sketchy.

CobaltWolf · July 13, 2017

15 hours ago, Drakenex said:

but is finally here!! Thanks a lot!!!!

Shameless request: because I'm patient guy and I've always helped you whenever I can (hehehe), how difficult could be to push into the pipeline ETS Spacelab solar panels?

Edit: no LO on github

Shoot, I made the commit locally on the Github desktop app but forgot to sync it up to the server. Should be available now.

And Spacelab parts are coming eventually, I decided to focus on just getting the basic Skylab out for this release. I think I'm trying to get Atlas and LDC Titan done for the next release (should be faster than the last few) and then get Big G, Gemini Lander, Spacelab done along with revamping MOL and the ETS Apollo stuff.

CobaltWolf · July 13, 2017

I made something cool...

MaverickSawyer · July 13, 2017

I've got something not too different already on orbit. Hooray for Github betas.

EDIT: Forgot I had taken a screencap of it last night...

Edited July 13, 2017 by MaverickSawyer

Jay The Amazing Toaster · July 13, 2017

Ok lemme just...

There we go... CONGRATS!!!

[1.12.5] Bluedog Design Bureau - Stockalike Saturn, Apollo, and more! (v1.14.0 "металл" 30/Sep/2024)

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