DStaal Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 2:12 AM, gamerscircle said: Last time I used the stakes, the Pioneer module was needed, is it still just that module? Expand Yep. Either of the Pioneer modules - there's one in both the Duna and Tundra form factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyzard Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I'm starting a new 1.3 career game with MKS, and I decided that I don't want to do any "rescue stranded kerbal" contracts, because they're kinda cheaty (limitless supply of free kerbals) and not really needed with MKS (since hiring prices are reasonable). So I made a little MM patch to disable them, and thought I'd share in case any other MKS players are interested: @Contracts { @Recovery { @AllowKerbalRescue = False @AllowCompoundRecovery = False } } This should* suppress the stock recovery contracts that generate kerbals — both the ones where you rescue just the kerbal, and the "compound" ones where you have to retrieve the derelict spacecraft too. You can still get recovery contracts for parts that don't have kerbals in them. (This also means that you don't need Rescue Pod Validator, which hasn't been updated for 1.3 yet.) *Note that I haven't fully tested this — I'm not yet at the point in career where I'd actually get rescue contracts, so I can't say for certain that they don't appear. But the comments in the stock Contracts.cfg make it pretty clear what these flags are meant to do, and I've checked ModuleManager.ConfigCache to make sure the patch really does change their values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 FYI the 1.3 version of MKS comes with a 1.3 compatible version of ground construction. Just don't use CKAN... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerscircle Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 3:06 AM, RoverDude said: FYI the 1.3 version of MKS comes with a 1.3 compatible version of ground construction. Just don't use CKAN... Expand I didn't use CKAN and I completely over looked the folder, thank you. The "Patches" folder, will those work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRagingIrishman Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 3:15 AM, gamerscircle said: I didn't use CKAN and I completely over looked the folder, thank you. The "Patches" folder, will those work? Expand What do you mean by that? All the .cfgs in the Patches folder work and provide compatibility with various other mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerscircle Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) On 6/1/2017 at 3:20 AM, TheRagingIrishman said: What do you mean by that? All the .cfgs in the Patches folder work and provide compatibility with various other mods. Expand That is what I meant, I know the patches come from the GC mod direct vs the MKS version of GC. I have been using the ISRU to help with Mat Kit creation before the kerbals arrive. update: When I add in the patches , KSP crashes - When I remove them, KSP loads okay. Edited June 1, 2017 by gamerscircle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerbolExplorer Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 the game is crashing om loading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwarazi Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 7:10 AM, KerbolExplorer said: the game is crashing om loading Expand Ok, to help the guys on here will need to see your logs and also does this happen with only MKS loaded or do you have lots of other mods as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 Also... if you're asking for support, you really need to start including KSP version, MKS version, and where you got it. 100% of the crash issues I have seen are people trying to use 1.2.x stuff on 1.3 (or vice versa). Don't do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canisin Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Hey @RoverDude I have noticed that the Manufacturers for the launch pads in MKS are set to "USI - * LEGACY *". Does that mean that they have been depreciated? That they are going away? They are very pretty models and I would like to use them to attach my DIY Kits to those. Any suggestions or plans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 No plans for re-use at the moment, they are deprecated since the form factors, etc. don't tie out to the current parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canisin Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) But safe to include in my vessels for the near distant future? That is, are you planning to drop them or keep them? Actually does DIY Kits require specific parts to attach to or not? I assumed that they did not. Edited June 1, 2017 by canisin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 DIY kits do not require a special part to attach to. And those parts are going to eventually vanish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontLineFodder Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Mr RoverDude, If I get the Constellation from your GitHub Repo (I like FTT, Srv pack & Construction) I should also use the updated USI Tools v0.9.2.0 from the USI GitHub repo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicey99 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 12:10 PM, FrontLineFodder said: Mr RoverDude, If I get the Constellation from your GitHub Repo (I like FTT, Srv pack & Construction) I should also use the updated USI Tools v0.9.2.0 from the USI GitHub repo Expand The latest USITools comes bundled with the Constellation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urses Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 10:40 AM, RoverDude said: DIY kits do not require a special part to attach to. And those parts are going to eventually vanish. Expand If i may ask. Do you work on a integrated solution for USI to build insitu? Urses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenpsp Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 12:15 PM, Urses said: If i may ask. Do you work on a integrated solution for USI to build insitu? Urses Expand Ground Construction is basically integrated into MKS already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urses Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 12:38 PM, goldenpsp said: Ground Construction is basically integrated into MKS already. Expand The question was because of: On 6/1/2017 at 10:40 AM, RoverDude said: And those parts are going to eventually vanish. Expand Not native english talker trys to understand. Urses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terwin Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 1:11 PM, Urses said: The question was because of: Not native english talker trys to understand. Urses Expand The parts in question are for EL(Extra-planetary launch pads) which was used prior to GC(Ground Construction). EL was not as good of a fit to RoverDude's vision for in-situ construction, so it was always a temporary addition. Ground Construction is pretty much exactly what RD planned to create, so you can expect it to be supported at least as long as the rest of MKS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canisin Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 12:14 PM, voicey99 said: The latest USITools comes bundled with the Constellation. Expand I am not sure if this is correct, the latest constellation release is from before the USI_Tools update. For my own installation I did a separate update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRagingIrishman Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) On 6/1/2017 at 12:14 PM, voicey99 said: The latest USITools comes bundled with the Constellation. Expand Nope there's a new USI tools out. @FrontLineFodder yes you should download constellation and then update to the newest usi tools Edited June 1, 2017 by TheRagingIrishman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urses Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 @Terwin thanks i was not aware thar it goes for EL again. I feared that RD was to drop GC suppprt too. Urses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenpsp Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) On 6/1/2017 at 2:07 PM, Urses said: @Terwin thanks i was not aware thar it goes for EL again. I feared that RD was to drop GC suppprt too. Urses Expand Considering Ground Construction is actually in the Constellation zip I don't see that being an issue anytime soon Speaking of which, since Ground Construction is actually part of the latest constellation release, yet the main GC is not yet updated to 1.3 that I can tell @RoverDude do you know if it works? IE did you by chance recompile the DLL yourself for the one you are bundling in the USI constellation release? Edited June 1, 2017 by goldenpsp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonratt Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 5/31/2017 at 7:51 PM, notthebobo said: Slightly off-topic for MKS (but not really given the past two pages) any pointers to threads on best practices for version control of the installed game, not the source? I'm thinking of some sort of Git for the save games and Gamesdata folders. Expand Just make a copy or two, I usually keep a "clean" copy and then a modded version of the game in a different location from the steamapps folder. That way, Steam can update the game all they want and they won't break my play through. This also allows you to mod/update mess with new versions of the game without breaking what you all ready have working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonratt Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 7:37 AM, Kwarazi said: Ok, to help the guys on here will need to see your logs and also does this happen with only MKS loaded or do you have lots of other mods as well Expand I had the same issue, posted about 2 pages back. If you're using CKAN to install MKS.... don't. Remove the CKAN version and do a direct download. That should solve your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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