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magnemoe

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17 minutes ago, WestAir said:

Neural-Link + Biological Immortality = Limitless holodeck-like deep dives.

Why would society even bother functioning in the real world at that point, when each individual can play god?

It would simply be an more immersive video game. I would probably still use vr headsets and speakers as they are high bandwidth devices. Then use the neural link to both control and fool the body. 
Yes it would easy be order of magnitudes more immersive but still an game, but yes we would get way more issue with people gaming to much.

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Nightside

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53 minutes ago, magnemoe said:

It would simply be an more immersive video game. I would probably still use vr headsets and speakers as they are high bandwidth devices. Then use the neural link to both control and fool the body. 
Yes it would easy be order of magnitudes more immersive but still an game, but yes we would get way more issue with people gaming to much.

But how many people now choose to spend their gaming time farming, driving trucks, planning cities, or managing complex resource chains.... They might as well be working!

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DDE

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5 hours ago, WestAir said:

Neural-Link + Biological Immortality = Limitless holodeck-like deep dives.

Why would society even bother functioning in the real world at that point, when each individual can play god?

But if they play god, the individual Musks in their simulations will too create holodecks and start playing god...

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WestAir

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56 minutes ago, DDE said:

But if they play god, the individual Musks in their simulations will too create holodecks and start playing god...

Plot line for a good episode of Star Trek.

"The Holo-Musk has taken over..."

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Ultimate Steve

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1 hour ago, tater said:

 

Wait, like, a working machine on a human??? I thought they were years away!

Edit: Read up on the topic of BMIs in general and I have come to realize that I knew pretty much nothing when I posted that. I am no longer surprised that they have a machine this early. The future's gonna be wild, and I'm not sure if I'm ready for that much wild.

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kerbiloid

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On 7/10/2020 at 6:35 AM, Nightside said:

But how many people now choose to spend their gaming time farming, driving trucks, planning cities, or managing complex resource chains.... They might as well be working!

Now it makes sense, why there are so many stupid people around.

They are not stupid, they are just not properly used.

TV + neuralink + blockchain → all of them are sitting at home and watching TV, while their brains permanently calculate random numbers and checksum and generate bitcoins for the sake of all thinking humanity,

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tater

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I got the impression from their statements at that previous event that the first uses would be fully medical. Ie: they would use it to treat neurological problems. This is already done with a single wire (? maybe a few?) for epilepsy. I think they have seen some efficacy for some psychiatric issues as well. Probably easier to get permission when something similar is already standard of care.

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cubinator

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1 hour ago, tater said:

I got the impression from their statements at that previous event that the first uses would be fully medical. Ie: they would use it to treat neurological problems. This is already done with a single wire (? maybe a few?) for epilepsy. I think they have seen some efficacy for some psychiatric issues as well. Probably easier to get permission when something similar is already standard of care.

Definitely. That's what they can get clinical approval to test with. But eventually they're going to start throwing in bonus "summon your Tesla with your mind" options. They've already demonstrated computer mouse use in monkeys.

Anyway, I have the feeling this presentation could make Elon seem even more like a supervillain depending on what's in it.

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munlander1

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On 7/17/2019 at 2:15 PM, tater said:

the legitimate medical uses are really significant for people with various deficits

This is the only reason why I support the continued development of neuralink. Every other use case, while revolutionary carries extreme risks on a level we have never seen. When Bitcoin ransomware attacks started flourishing a few years ago, several hospitals were infected (pun unintended). There will be a security flaw that WILL be found. There is a real potential for an abuse of that security flaw to not be detectable, such as the Meltdown which affects intel CPUs.

While I do not know what the malicious use cases of Nuralink are, I know for a fact that should they become mainstream the results will be catastrophic.

 

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25 minutes ago, munlander1 said:

This is the only reason why I support the continued development of neuralink. Every other use case, while revolutionary carries extreme risks on a level we have never seen. When Bitcoin ransomware attacks started flourishing a few years ago, several hospitals were infected (pun unintended). There will be a security flaw that WILL be found. There is a real potential for an abuse of that security flaw to not be detectable, such as the Meltdown which affects intel CPUs.

While I do not know what the malicious use cases of Nuralink are, I know for a fact that should they become mainstream the results will be catastrophic.

I'm not sure what the real risk is outside of medical risk (if leads deteriorate, etc).

The computation is done externally as I understand it. Not seeing "catastrophic" as terribly likely.

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8 minutes ago, tater said:

I'm not sure what the real risk is outside of medical risk (if leads deteriorate, etc).

The computation is done externally as I understand it. Not seeing "catastrophic" as terribly likely.

Yeah but it's still computing at your brain and could give you a seizure or something if it locks up. With Bluetooth.

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1 hour ago, cubinator said:

Yeah but it's still computing at your brain and could give you a seizure or something if it locks up. With Bluetooth.

Cochlear implants seem to not give people seizures.

It's not like they'll be selling this next week, it has to do clinical trials, then get FDA approval.

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DDE

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On 8/28/2020 at 4:40 AM, munlander1 said:

This is the only reason why I support the continued development of neuralink. Every other use case, while revolutionary carries extreme risks on a level we have never seen. When Bitcoin ransomware attacks started flourishing a few years ago, several hospitals were infected (pun unintended). There will be a security flaw that WILL be found. There is a real potential for an abuse of that security flaw to not be detectable, such as the Meltdown which affects intel CPUs.

While I do not know what the malicious use cases of Nuralink are, I know for a fact that should they become mainstream the results will be catastrophic.

Relevant: https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/securing-prosthetic-arm/25736/

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sh1pman

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9 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

That's actually great news!

Now the DRM can be installed right in the brain chip, so a human will just ignore pirate music and films!

Or zap your brain whenever you try to listen to music without paying for it first.

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DDE

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5 minutes ago, sh1pman said:

Or zap your brain whenever you try to listen to music without paying for it first.

Why zap it when you can just produce a seemingly genuine sensation of extreme revulsion?

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kerbiloid

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Also now the online casinos can run their commercials right in your brain, even when you're sleeping!
Also always fresh news about new hygiene products, cat&dog foods, and bank credits!

For premium clients:
Augmented reality with historical epoch and political figures you're fond of.

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DDE

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3 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

For premium clients:
Augmented reality with historical epoch and political figures you're fond of.

Finally all the readers of countless trashy 'If I talked to Stalin in June 1941' novels will get what they were wishing for.

And then some.

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