sevenperforce Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, mikegarrison said: So. Pretty clearly not all the engines lit. The stage separation didn't happen. It will be interesting to find out why. Is it because of the stage 1 engine issue? Maybe they didn't reach the actual staging point? Or maybe the staging just failed. It seemed to successfully get to MECO and start the flip, but then it didn't separate. My guess is that the clamps didn't unclamp or something similar. Just now, mikegarrison said: As the rocket was flipping and spinning, it reminded me a lot of what happens in my own KSP launches if I have a deficiency in thrust and/or control authority. Also curious whether the final explosion was a intentional range-safety demolition or if the stress just tore the thing apart. At 39 km there's not much air to cause aerodynamic stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, Little 908 said: “We are awaiting for the 2nd stage separation” bruh thats legit all my missions Technically, the stages certainly did seperate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephensmat Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, sevenperforce said: Exactly. I have literally done this exact thing on so many occasions. Me too. The news will report it as a failure, but they said a thousand times that the only goal was to get off the pad, and the rest was icing. The thing flew for almost five minutes with twice the force of a Saturn V., and made it to the manoeuvre stage. That's a fair bit of icing. They've already built the next three or four Starships, I believe. Bring on the next flight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little 908 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Guys I think they just forgot the staging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kartoffelkuchen said: Like the thing just doing barrel rolls in 35km altitude? Soooo incredibly Kerbal, yeah. Not enough gimbal authority and too much lift in the front obviously, we all know it. /s Looked like it started with barrel rolls but ended up in a penguin roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Little 908 said: Guys I think they just forgot the staging "Check yo staging" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Little 908 said: Guys I think they just forgot the staging Timely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Everyday astronaut got covered in sand from the launch. 5 miles away from pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, tater said: I've flown that profile, lol T+29s you could see engines blowing up. So the containment works. Yep, I saw that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Someone forgot to check the staging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannu2 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 At about 1:52 indicator shows that one failed engine comes back to work. It is at outer ring about 10 o'clock position. Is it really possible to fix any problems during ascent and reignite an engine or is it some kind of telemetry problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicTech Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Little 908 said: Guys I think they just forgot the staging 1 minute ago, sevenperforce said: Yep, I saw that too. Woah! I didn't catch that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Goddess Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 I have flown that flight so many times!!!! Why is it tumbling, oh why aren the stages working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Hannu2 said: At about 1:52 indicator shows that one failed engine comes back to work. It is at outer ring about 10 o'clock position. Is it really possible to fix any problems during ascent and reignite an engine or is it some kind of telemetry problem? Outer ring of engines can not be restarted in flight so this is likely an telemetry error. Might be simply on the display to public even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little 908 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, AtomicTech said: Woah! I didn't catch that! They weren’t flying safe either, they flew without 5 engines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicTech Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 How long will it take to put something else on the pad for launch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pthigrivi Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Yall that was unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargamel Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 For me, the really cool thing is the amount of really good engineering data they got. That thing failed in so many different ways, they’ll have a lot of stuff to work on. And the fact it failed in so many ways and kept going is really reassuring that they’re building a pretty robust system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, tater said: It’s just so damn big. I know we’ve seen starship execute hops before, but the plume is way clearer and less bright than I anticipated for that many engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Little 908 said: They weren’t flying safe either, they flew without 5 engines! I say the B-52 engine out capability has been totally humiliated. Rewateched it 3 engines including one of the 3 in center was out at launch. 40 second and they lost one outer. 1 minute and they lost the 5. Max-q at 920 km/h and 10 km. 1:40 and lost engine 6. 2:30 and velocity is going down from 2000 km/h. Edited April 20, 2023 by magnemoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicTech Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Gargamel said: For me, the really cool thing is the amount of really good engineering data they got. That thing failed in so many different ways, they’ll have a lot of stuff to work on. And the fact it failed in so many ways and kept going is really reassuring that they’re building a pretty robust system. They've built that thing tough.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Entropian said: Am I crazy or was there a noticeable tilt when it was lifting off? Nope, Everyday Astronaut's stream shows it lifting off at about a 10 degree angle. And it still made it through Max-Q! With 5 engines out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pthigrivi Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gargamel said: For me, the really cool thing is the amount of really good engineering data they got. That thing failed in so many different ways, they’ll have a lot of stuff to work on. And the fact it failed in so many ways and kept going is really reassuring that they’re building a pretty robust system. Yeah that they could have straight up engine explosions and not instantly lose the vehicle is kind of wild. Edited April 20, 2023 by Pthigrivi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 minute ago, AckSed said: Nope, Everyday Astronaut's stream shows it lifting off at about a 10 degree angle. And it still made it through Max-Q! With 5 engines out! For one brief moment the camera started shaking from the force and wobble back-and-forth and it looks like the rocket was bending at the center. I know they ran the engines at lower throttle than they could have, but it really crept off the pad slowly. I wonder what the damage to the pad looks like and I also wonder whether they are able to see if tiles were lost on lift off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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