tater Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Yeah, but no one uses kph WRT rockets... km/s or m/s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 29 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: We’ve got our first weather report for the big day, looks promising. Nobody blink... I blinked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, linuxgurugamer said: I blinked Crap... brb, gotta go kill a butterfly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Crap... brb, gotta go kill a butterfly... Edited February 2, 2018 by Just Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 hours ago, tater said: Yeah, but no one uses kph WRT rockets... km/s or m/s. Shuttle call-outs were in fps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Crap... brb, gotta go kill a butterfly... 3 hours ago, linuxgurugamer said: I blinked http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-173 Anyway, what happened to the fairing recovery boats? Was that not for this mission? Didn't we see gas thrusters when the fairing separated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 34 minutes ago, DAL59 said: http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-173 Anyway, what happened to the fairing recovery boats? Was that not for this mission? Didn't we see gas thrusters when the fairing separated? I’m guessing the Steve-O was really on scene in case they had to tow a booster back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Just now, CatastrophicFailure said: I’m guessing the Steve-O was really on scene in case they had to tow a booster back... Why did they not catch the fairings though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, DAL59 said: Why did they not catch the fairings though? Because they were waiting around in case they had to tow a booster back... Given that we’ve heard zero about fairing recovery from SpaceX, I’m guessing it’s not quite ready for prime time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, StrandedonEarth said: Shuttle call-outs were in fps Yeah, all the NASA stuff was/is fps forever. I hated that back in the 80s, I hate it now. Also pounds of thrust. Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKraken Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 heh heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 54 minutes ago, RedKraken said: heh heh I want one. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 9 hours ago, tater said: ICBMs do not take 50 minutes to get anywhere. 20-30 is typical. Typical is ~11000 km = ~30 minutes. Earth semi-perimeter = 20000 km. LEO 1 turn duration ~100 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 12 hours ago, TranceaddicT said: This is all under maritime international convention (1910 and amended in 1989). In your case, the UK probably has something similar to the US. US passed the Abandoned Shipwrecked Act in 1987 which gives title to the United States of any finds within U.S. territorial waters (typically three miles from the coastline) and not the discoverer. With regards to nation ships, it codifies that no governments ever abandons the S&R efforts for their own vessels. I'm basing my writing from two ships : S.S. Richard Montgomery (actually a US ship) Mary Rose It's possible for territorial sea to be 12 miles distant along with internal waters. Marine law isn't exactly a modern law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukaszenko Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 16 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Unless they think up some other “creative” way to dispose of it. Hide contents It would make a good first payload for the BFR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefrums Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Because they were waiting around in case they had to tow a booster back... Given that we’ve heard zero about fairing recovery from SpaceX, I’m guessing it’s not quite ready for prime time. The fact that we have not heard anything about faring recovery indicates that the fairings where not recovered. Hard to say if that is due to that they did not try or that they tried and failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I think they are holding the fairing recovery cards a little closer to their chest than other reuse since this is something that all their US/EU competitors can do (they all have fairings, and all launch out over the ocean). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, tater said: I think they are holding the fairing recovery cards a little closer to their chest than other reuse since this is something that all their US/EU competitors can do (they all have fairings, and all launch out over the ocean). Yes. I guess it's not too expensive to retrofit the fairings to be recoverable. Boosted landing is a hard stuff to do over (except you started with one), but fairing naturally goes slow anyway, adding a tiny drogue or reaction "engines" won't be a hard task. If they want to keep that small bleeding edge they'll have to keep it under a haze. A large one should be shown instead (like stage recovery). Edited February 2, 2018 by YNM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaff Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, YNM said: Yes. I guess it's not too expensive to retrofit the fairings to be recoverable. Boosted landing is a hard stuff to do over (except you started with one), but fairing naturally goes slow anyway, adding a tiny drogue or reaction "engines" won't be a hard task. If they want to keep that small bleeding edge they'll have to keep it under a haze. A large one should be shown instead (like stage recovery). Bringing a sodding great rocket back down to Earth is kind of difficult not to spot too fairing recovery is easy to be vague about - a sooty rocket back on the pad is fairly (amazingly) obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Jaff said: fairing recovery is easy to be vague about - a sooty rocket back on the pad is fairly (amazingly) obvious Yeah, hiding an ant is easier than hiding an elephant. Unless... unless ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, YNM said: Yeah, hiding an ant is easier than hiding an elephant. Unless... unless ! Eh. Give me an elephant, and i will hide said pachyderm. Want to know a perfect hiding place? In a herd of other elephants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Scotius said: Eh. Give me an elephant, and i will hide said pachyderm. Want to know a perfect hiding place? In a herd of other elephants Not enough space junk falling from the sky to hide a booster in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Giant Rocket: 1, butterfly: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranceaddicT Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 13 hours ago, YNM said: I'm basing my writing from two ships : S.S. Richard Montgomery (actually a US ship) Mary Rose It's possible for territorial sea to be 12 miles distant along with internal waters. Marine law isn't exactly a modern law. Interesting reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racescort666 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 @CatastrophicFailure, I have been hyped. There was no controlling it. A good weather forecast sometimes does that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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