tater Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Good news, everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Well it's thematically appropriate anyway; having an organisation that hasn't managed to get much up, be led by a CEO called Limp. This would be the same Dave Limp that was fired retired from Amazon after his pet projects bombed? Must be nice to be in the golden parachute class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Sometimes jokes just write themselves. Honesty though - I do hope BO will display more Ferociter under new boss. Because Gradatim got old long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55delta Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I'll say it. BO overburdened themselves with so many project that they now walk with a Limp. Maybe the new guy can give them some focus. But considering how Amazon works, I think the problem might be one level higher than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, 55delta said: I'll say it. BO overburdened themselves with so many project that they now walk with a Limp. Maybe the new guy can give them some focus. But considering how Amazon works, I think the problem might be one level higher than him. Given the current market and trend in trimming personnel across tech and the bloat and red ink at BO I'd guess the reaper is swooping in with the new guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 On 9/26/2023 at 11:20 PM, 55delta said: I'll say it. BO overburdened themselves with so many project that they now walk with a Limp. Maybe the new guy can give them some focus. But considering how Amazon works, I think the problem might be one level higher than him. I say its higher up, their gaming division is also an mess. Now Amazon cloud services seems to work? But its also mass volume in another way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meecrob Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 It seems likely that Bezos thinks that good managers are good managers, no matter what project you give them. Let's see how it plays out. I have my popcorn and lawnchair ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Space is more expensive than it is hard. And it’s pretty frickin hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 If it's not too early to speculate, are they deprioritzing on just what they need to complete for milestones at the moment, or downscaling the station itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Spaceception said: If it's not too early to speculate, are they deprioritzing on just what they need to complete for milestones at the moment, or downscaling the station itself? I'm guessing that the entire "uncertainty of Orbital Reef" thing was far more journalistic drama than reality. Sure, new management will mean reprioritizing things, but I seriously doubt BO would signal backing out on the reef when they don't have to signal that or do that. I'm guessing reef might have to get more properly in line behind items with sooner delivery dates and staff (and $$$) may be shuffled accordingly Edited October 4, 2023 by darthgently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Another thing which I will take seriously when they do, well, literally anything real first. And no, New Shepard doesn't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, tater said: Another thing which I will take seriously when they do, well, literally anything real first. And no, New Shepard doesn't count. Kind of reminds me of the old soviet orbiters shape. Oh well, another ambitious project we'll never hear from again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Minmus Taster said: Kind of reminds me of the old soviet orbiters shape. Oh well, another ambitious project we'll never hear from again On the plus side it's launch vehicle agnostic. So maybe it actually flies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Meant to be refueled in orbit, and they mention it being able to move the Blue Moon lander. A larger, upgraded, NG-dedicated version could move their Artemis lander, either replacing the Lockheed Cislunar transporter, or allowing additional missions. I've said this before, but Blue is developing all the technologies and capabilities ULA wanted for their Cislunar-1000 concept. Now they just need to put it all together, easier said than done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleshJeb Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I'm guessing we don't have enough information yet to compare to ULA's canceled ACES project? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Cryogenic_Evolved_Stage https://www.ulalaunch.com/docs/default-source/exploration/evolving-to-a-depot-based-space-transportation-architecture.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 That little thing isn't nearly as cool as ACES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 They said that this thing can go interplanetary, and even interstellar in the aviation week article. Think that might be overpromising a bit much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, insert_name said: They said that this thing can go interplanetary, and even interstellar in the aviation week article. Think that might be overpromising a bit much? Large solar panels. Could stick an RTG and a high-gain to it I suppose. Dunno what the dv of it is. Doesn't need much to slingshot out of the solar system. Edited October 18, 2023 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 20 hours ago, tater said: Large solar panels. Could stick an RTG and a high-gain to it I suppose. Dunno what the dv of it is. Doesn't need much to slingshot out of the solar system. yeah maybe, but I don't think there are many missions worth using an RTG on where you would use a cheap ESPA ring bus instead of a custom design, not to mention the thermal control, micrometeoroids, radiation hardening, and the rather scarce nature of ground stations that can reach that far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 This is the cargo lander. https://www.blueorigin.com/blue-moon/mark-1 Their website is ridiculously unfriendly to embedding images, had to DL them, then UL them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunlitZelkova Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 We’ve come a long way from that inflated balloon beneath some steel pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 They are really maximizing the utilization of space by having the big LH2 tank up top. If you recall from the Artemis thread, the volumetric utilization for the old Altair lander design was awful, on the order of 19%. Doing this really big lightweight LH2 tank up top takes maximum advantage of the square-cube law so that you can fit a LOT of liquid hydrogen into a relatively small volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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