Beccab Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Roscosmos will refuse to launch OneWeb unless assured OneWeb will not also be used for military purposes. I doubt this assurance can be given, so the OneWeb contract with Roscosmos is effectively dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, RCgothic said: Roscosmos will refuse to launch OneWeb unless assured OneWeb will not also be used for military purposes. I doubt this assurance can be given, so the OneWeb contract with Roscosmos is effectively dead. This sounds like a "You can't fire me, I quit!" moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunlitZelkova Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Q: Does the Roscosmos MCC have control over recon satellites? This is a purely technical question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, DDE said: This sounds like a "You can't fire me, I quit!" moment Yeah, a couple days ago there were various people reporting that this would have been the last Oneweb launch on Soyuz and only because they had already paid for it fully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 39 minutes ago, SunlitZelkova said: Q: Does the Roscosmos MCC have control over recon satellites? This is a purely technical question. No, the old military MCC in Krasnoznamensk (the 721st Center) does. There's some messy arrangement between the Aerospace Force, the directly-subordinated GRU, and even the Navy with its significant interest in maritime ELINT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 UK minister confirms there will be no negotiation on this point: Roscosmos aren't launching any more OneWeb sats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) NoneWeb. Edited March 2, 2022 by CatastrophicFailure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 South Korea says "very unlikely" that their launches on Soyuz will go ahead as planned https://spacenews.com/russian-sanctions-throw-south-korean-satellite-missions-into-uncertainty/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 And now about Proton... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, kerbiloid said: And now about Proton... couldn't they just use FH? [snip] Edited March 3, 2022 by Snark Redacted by moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Random-E said: couldn't they just use FH? Or Ariane V, or even Vulcan or Ariane VI. All are some pretty good options Edited March 2, 2022 by Beccab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Beccab said: Or Ariane V, or even Vulcan or Ariane VI. All are some pretty good options they could also use the Japanese H3 Heavy (expected to fly in 2030), or the ISRO's HLV or SHLV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snark Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Some content has been redacted and/or removed. Another gentle reminder folks, please do not discuss political matters on the forums. It's fine to talk in simple technical terms about who's launching what, or who plans to launch (or not launch) what. Please avoid discussions of the political reasons why that might be the case. This includes, for example, speculation (or quotes from officials) about who is hostile to whom, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DDE Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Snark said: Some content has been redacted and/or removed. Another gentle reminder folks, please do not discuss political matters on the forums. It's fine to talk in simple technical terms about who's launching what, or who plans to launch (or not launch) what. Please avoid discussions of the political reasons why that might be the case. This includes, for example, speculation (or quotes from officials) about who is hostile to whom, etc. According to semi-tabloidal sources, the US-Russian-UAE crew of the SIRIUS-21 Moon mission analogue is not supposed to receive any news - including about [redacted] - from the outside world until July. [snip] An example to emulate? Edited March 3, 2022 by Snark Redacted by moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, DDE said: According to semi-tabloidal sources, the US-Russian-UAE crew of the SIRIUS-21 Moon mission analogue is not supposed to receive any news - including about [redacted] - from the outside world until July. [snip] An example to emulate? I mean, why? I can't imagine any scenario where a mission on the moon can't communicate with earth for months, considering how long an emergency return would take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snark Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 More content has been removed. To be clear, when we say "please don't discuss political topics", that also includes links to articles discussing political topics. Also, please don't link to foreign-language articles without providing English translations. Thank you for your understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 On 3/2/2022 at 10:33 AM, RCgothic said: UK minister confirms there will be no negotiation on this point:Roscosmos aren't launching any more OneWeb sats. One web is now looking for alternative launch providers from the US, India and Japan, but still intends to get launches contracted from Ariane, not sure how long it will take for the various providers to have launch capacity available though https://spacenews.com/with-soyuz-off-the-table-oneweb-back-in-the-mix/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) Oneweb launch stack is being slowly dis-integrated over the course of several days, and the satellites will be left at Baikonur under figurative lock-and-key. There's a whole bunch of various... grabby proposals regarding the property of companies exiting the Russian market being floated around. Those OneWeb satellites may well end up flying on the Soyuz after a forceful change of ownership. Edit: looked up "OOO Uanveb" (no, really, this is their listed English variant of company name). Reshetnev's SS Gonets has a controlling interest since February 2019, and the Ru Wiki notes they were on the cusp of build another 12.5% from the British to acquire full access to technival documentation. This could be an interesting divorse. Edited March 10, 2022 by DDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Rogozin: continued hostility against Russia will lead to the new orbital station having an 'applied military mission', thus barring any possibility of international cooperation https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5258307 Predicting @kerbiloid's reaction: "Ah, so we're back to where Mir began from" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codraroll Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, DDE said: Rogozin: continued hostility against Russia will lead to the new orbital station having an 'applied military mission', thus barring any possibility of international cooperation https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5258307 Predicting @kerbiloid's reaction: "Ah, so we're back to where Mir began from" As always, one can't fault Rogozin's optimism, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 14 hours ago, Codraroll said: As always, one can't fault Rogozin's optimism, at least. Optimism about about what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 49 minutes ago, sh1pman said: Optimism about about what? Optimisim is important itself. Other things get applied to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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