MeepTicoMeep Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 so i am confused by the system requirements. I have played ksp but it is slow and eventually crashed here are the computer specs i5 2400 quad core 3.10 ghz 8GB ram 3.49 usable 32-bit no graphics video and plenty of HD space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0n Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 You have a 32-bit computer, which means KSP only has access to 2 GB of RAM, so that is your limiting factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_v Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jas0n said: You have a 32-bit computer It's an i5, and very much 64bit. Somebody just installed the wrong OS on it. 3 hours ago, MeepTicoMeep said: i5 2400 quad core 3.10 ghz 8GB ram 3.49 usable 32-bit Do yourself a favour and install a 64bit operating system. With your current configuration, over half of your memory is unusable. As a bonus you'll be able to run KSP properly, with mods even. Edited October 13, 2017 by steve_v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0n Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, steve_v said: It's an i5, and very much 64bit. I thought the CPU and RAM were a bit high for 32-bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLicor Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 How do we know it's a 32-bit system for sure? Isn't he just loading the wrong .exe? 32-bit windows aren't installed that often past years.. 64-bit is used on (small) commercial base since 1990. Since, the amount of people that get a 32-bit system nowadays is really small. Open your KSP root folder. When installed by steam, it's located in: {Drive letter}\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\.. Try to launch from the KSP_x64.exe instead of the normal KSP.exe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrcarrot Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 16 hours ago, MeepTicoMeep said: 3.49 usable I think this might be it. I have a total 3GB RAM, and KSP is about 1/2 FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I think another kicker is that you're running off of on-board graphics. If you decide to put any money into this computer after you get a 64 bit OS on it, put it into a GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLicor Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Geonovast said: I think another kicker is that you're running off of on-board graphics. If you decide to put any money into this computer after you get a 64 bit OS on it, put it into a GPU. Intergraded graphics shouldn't be a problem with ksp, it almost entirely relies on your CPU and RAM. Unless you install visual mods ofcourse. But the physiccalculation are much more asking than the visual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 minute ago, DrLicor said: Intergraded graphics shouldn't be a problem with ksp, it almost entirely relies on your CPU and RAM. Unless you install visual mods ofcourse. But the physiccalculation are much more asking than the visual. It was for me *shrug*. I run no visual mods and the game would just fall into 3-4 FPS whenever I was around a planet other than Kerbin. Brand new computer, i5-7500K @3.4 Ghz with 8 GB Ram. Bone stock, no mods whatsoever. Basically unplayable with the planet in view. I would rotate the camera to show just the ship, and it would smooth out. Issue went away with the GTX-1050. Not guaranteeing that's the issue, just some food for thought. Running 32 bit is likely the main issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invision Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 i tried playing this on an i3 with 8 gigs of ram and onboard graphics and it was unplayable at 10 fps or less, this was using 64 bit mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_v Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, DrLicor said: How do we know it's a 32-bit system for sure? Because the OP said so: 23 hours ago, MeepTicoMeep said: 8GB ram 3.49 usable 32-bit 8GB installed, ~3.5GB usable. Sure sounds like a 32bit non-PAE OS to me. Why anyone would install a 32bit OS on an I5 with 8GB of RAM I don't know, it's madness. But unless the stated numbers are incorrect, there we are. 3 hours ago, invision said: i tried playing this on an i3 with 8 gigs of ram and onboard graphics and it was unplayable at 10 fps or less, this was using 64 bit mode. Granted onboard Intel graphics are sub-optimal (though the chip in an I5 should be a bit better), but a slow GPU won't cause the game to crash, and that's the main problem here as far as I can see. 6 hours ago, Geonovast said: It was for me *shrug*. I run no visual mods and the game would just fall into 3-4 FPS whenever I was around a planet other than Kerbin. At a guess, I'd say that's the old "terrain shaders run like ass on intel graphics" chestnut... There's a "fix" for this floating about somewhere IIRC, but yeah, for KSP Intel graphics == poor performance. Edited October 14, 2017 by steve_v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeepTicoMeep Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) On 10/13/2017 at 8:20 PM, steve_v said: Why anyone would install a 32bit OS on an I5 with 8GB of RAM I don't know, it's madness. it came with 32 bit also should get new ram sticks Edited October 18, 2017 by MeepTicoMeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishi Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, MeepTicoMeep said: it came with 32 bit also should get new ram sticks No, it won't help. What you need to do is somehow upgrade the OS to 64bit so it can "see" the rest of your RAM. Do you use Windows? If you have Windows 10 it's straightforward enough, although you need to reinstall the entire thing to make it work. I'm not sure about earlier versions of it (XP, 7, 8) though. Have a look here https://www.windowscentral.com/how-upgrade-32-bit-64-bit-version-windows-10 Edited October 18, 2017 by Daishi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateisKerbal Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 As everyone has said, use 64-bit Windows. Then all of your RAM can be used by the system. Also, I would invest in a graphics card. If you don't have a lot of money, a GTX 1030 or a 770 is a decent card that will run KSP at around 45 FPS stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLicor Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, NateisKerbal said: As everyone has said, use 64-bit Windows. Then all of your RAM can be used by the system. Also, I would invest in a graphics card. If you don't have a lot of money, a GTX 1030 or a 770 is a decent card that will run KSP at around 45 FPS stock. Gtx 1030 doesn't exist if I'm right, only a gt 1030. Also, I would go for the first one of gtx 1000 series if you want a budget gaming card; the gtx 1050. Way better price/power, the GTX1050 is 4th in the GPu price rankings. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-vs-Nvidia-GT-1030/3650vsm283726 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishi Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 55 minutes ago, DrLicor said: Gtx 1030 doesn't exist if I'm right, only a gt 1030. Also, I would go for the first one of gtx 1000 series if you want a budget gaming card; the gtx 1050. Way better price/power, the GTX1050 is 4th in the GPu price rankings. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-vs-Nvidia-GT-1030/3650vsm283726 I agree - I've got the 1050. Amazing little card for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateisKerbal Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/18/2017 at 8:49 AM, DrLicor said: Gtx 1030 doesn't exist if I'm right, only a gt 1030. Also, I would go for the first one of gtx 1000 series if you want a budget gaming card; the gtx 1050. Way better price/power, the GTX1050 is 4th in the GPu price rankings. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-vs-Nvidia-GT-1030/3650vsm283726 sorry about that, got the two brands mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeepTicoMeep Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 ive tried to upgrade to 64 bit but it keeps saying "this app cant run on this pc" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedsolo Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 7 hours ago, MeepTicoMeep said: ive tried to upgrade to 64 bit but it keeps saying "this app cant run on this pc" If you are going from 32 bit to 64 bit you will need to do a full clean reinstall from disk/USB stick (back your personal data up first!). I don't think you can do an x86>x64 upgrade (could be wrong, but I doubt it as all your drivers would be wrong). Instructions here on how to do that if you aren't comfortable (I've assumed you are on Win 10, let me know if that's wrong and I'll find you some other instructions): http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/computing/how-to-perform-a-clean-installation-of-windows-10-11364000633913 One thing to note: I don't remember if Media Creation Tool lets you download a different architecture to the one you are using. I think there is an option about "download for another PC" but I haven't used it on so long, I genuinely don't remember. If it gives you that option, make sure you select x64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeepTicoMeep Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 Thanks for all your help I've upgraded to 64 bit and how can play ksp smoothly. Now someone close this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snark Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, MeepTicoMeep said: Now someone close this thread Ask, and ye shall receive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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