[1.8.1-1] [PLEASE FORK ME] Kopernicus & KittopiaTech

[Sigma88]

Just now, ForumUser said:

Apparently Kopernicus prioritizes Mass more than Gravity, why is that?

because in the code it loads geeASL first and mass later which means mass overrides geeASL

 

my question was: you say "gravity should be first in the priority list"... why is that it should?

[ForumUser]

1 minute ago, Sigma88 said:

because in the code it loads geeASL first and mass later which means mass overrides geeASL

 

my question was: you say "gravity should be first in the priority list"... why is that it should?

Nevermind about that anymore.

[JadeOfMaar]

Howdy, all. By chance is anyone able to get asteroids to spawn in more than one place concurrently?  I know this is an old problem but maybe the syntax for it has changed since @KillAshley's examples were published. Maybe it works and nobody knows? And please don't suggest the Custom Asteroids mod. I'd love to just use that and be done but unfortunately it's in limbo.

Disregard that. I'm getting success.  However, the syntax in the examples on GitHub may indeed need to change for anyone else interested.

Edited February 18, 2017 by JadeOfMaar

[GhostboyDB]

Can i request a mod that uses kopernicus to make those elite dangerous or no mans sky space stations? less work on the CPU because they aren't parts, and they could have gravity, and you could hyperedit yourself into orbit of the station!

[JadeOfMaar]

@GhostboyDB. That possibly could be done but this is not the place to ask and the Kopernicus makers have enough to do ensuring that every planet pack out there keeps working.  The Addons Discussion thread is the place to ask for mods.

[GhostboyDB]

 

@JadeOfMaar. Seems Legit. I just don't know how to use forums. thanks for your help, I'll ask there.

[Tynton]

I have ran into a problem with modifying stock Laythe in KSP. So far, I've done everything correctly and without error, but one problem seems to persist, despite my efforts to use a solution. In the ScaledSpace view of Laythe, having been edited to an extent with PQSMods (Heightmap), and after properly exporting textures, applied them to the planet, Laythe has, only in ScaledSpace, deformed to either a mesh with an illusion that it is smaller than it actually is, or a spherical model larger than the planet actually is, after messing a little with the "deferMesh" and "sphericalModel". Several reference images: http://imgur.com/a/6aQFw. From what it seems, however, it's purely a mesh-only problem. The ScaledVersion code:

@ScaledVersion
        {
            type = Atmospheric
			sphericalModel = false
			deferMesh = false
			
			Material
			{
				texture = Suthe/Kerbin/Moons/Laythe.dds
				normals = Suthe/Kerbin/Moons/LaytheNRM.png
				color = 1.0,1.0,1.0
				
				shininess = 1.0
				specular = 1.0,0.95,0.6
				
				rimPower = 4.8
				rimBlend = 0.7
				
				Gradient
				{
					0.0 = 0.7,0.85,1.0,1.0
					0.3 = 0.3,0.015,0.0,1.0
					0.7 = 0.0,0.0,0.0,1.0
					1.0 = 0.0,0.0,0.0,1.0
				}
			}
        }

 

[ProtoJeb21]

Quick question: How do I get ring shaders to work on my planets?

[JadeOfMaar]

@ProtoJeb21 From what I know, insert these into a ring node.

unlit = False
useNewShader = True
penumbraMultipler = 10.0

Be advised that the shader currently appears to only work with one ring of one planet at a time. 

[DerpzGames]

@The White Guardian

Alright so, I've added a moon to a planet that I recently created. The scaledspace version of it looks like a spherical minmus but when going in to land it becomes a white sphere and depending on altitude with ugly blue blotches. Another thing is the planet that it orbits has a problem with eclipses, when it goes in front of the sun the sun shines through it.

Here's the code for it (I am currently using the code provided in your PQS Tutorial, and I am certain that I have copied it correctly)

@Kopernicus:AFTER[Kopernicus]
{
    Body
    {
        name = Kerebi
        cacheFile = KerbolMysteries/Kopernicus/Cache/Kerebi.bin
        Template
        {
            name = Minmus
            removeAllPQSMods = true
        }
        Properties
        {
            description = Procedural planet
            radius = 200000
            rotates = true
            rotationPeriod = 60000
            tidallyLocked = false
            initialRotation = 0
            geeASL = 0.5
            timewarpAltitudeLimits = 0 10000 17500 25000 40000 60000 80000 200000
            ScienceValues
            {
                landedDataValue = 7
                inSpaceLowDataValue = 6.5
                inSpaceHighDataValue = 6
                recoveryValue = 8
                spaceAltitudeThreshold = 175000
            }
        }
        Orbit
        {
            referenceBody = Sentus
            semiMajorAxis = 90000000
            inclination = 0
            eccentricity = 0.009
            longitudeOfAscendingNode = 0
            argumentOfPeriapsis = 0
            meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 0
            epoch = 0
            color = 0.5,0.5,0.5,1.0
        }
        PQS
        {
            Mods
            {
                VertexSimplexHeightAbsolute
{
	name = HeightMod1
	seed = 123
	deformity = 5000
	octaves = 3
	persistence = 0.5
	frequency = 1
	enabled = true
	order = 2
}
VertexSimplexHeightAbsolute
{
	name = HeightMod2
	seed = 456
	deformity = 2500
	octaves = 3
	persistence = 0.5
	frequency = 1
	enabled = true
	order = 3
}
HeightColorMap
{
	blend = 0.5
	enabled = true
	order = 10 //make this number higher than the HeightMods
	LandClasses
	{
		Class
		{
			name = Base
			altitudeStart = 0
			altitudeEnd = 0.1
			color = 0.1,0.1,0.1,1.0
			lerpToNext = true
		}
		Class
		{
			name = Low
			altitudeStart = 0.1
			altitudeEnd = 0.6
			color = 0.1,0.1,0.6,1.0
			lerpToNext = true
		}
		Class
		{
			name = Mid
			altitudeStart = 0.6
			altitudeEnd = 0.8
			color = 0.2,0.2,0.8,1.0
			lerpToNext = true
		}
		Class
		{
			name = High
			altitudeStart = 0.8
			altitudeEnd = 2
			color = 1.0,1.0,1.0,0.8
			lerpToNext = false
		}
	}
}
            }
        }
    }
}

Here's the ingame mess.

Edited February 22, 2017 by DerpzGames

[The White Guardian]

26 minutes ago, DerpzGames said:

@The White Guardian

Alright so, I've added a moon to a planet that I recently created. The scaledspace version of it looks like a spherical minmus but when going in to land it becomes a white sphere and depending on altitude with ugly blue blotches. Another thing is the planet that it orbits has a problem with eclipses, when it goes in front of the sun the sun shines through it.

Here's the code for it (I am currently using the code provided in your PQS Tutorial, and I am certain that I have copied it correctly)

@Kopernicus:AFTER[Kopernicus]
{
    Body
    {
        name = Kerebi
        cacheFile = KerbolMysteries/Kopernicus/Cache/Kerebi.bin
        Template
        {
            name = Minmus
            removeAllPQSMods = true
        }
        Properties
        {
            description = Procedural planet
            radius = 200000
            rotates = true
            rotationPeriod = 60000
            tidallyLocked = false
            initialRotation = 0
            geeASL = 0.5
            timewarpAltitudeLimits = 0 10000 17500 25000 40000 60000 80000 200000
            ScienceValues
            {
                landedDataValue = 7
                inSpaceLowDataValue = 6.5
                inSpaceHighDataValue = 6
                recoveryValue = 8
                spaceAltitudeThreshold = 175000
            }
        }
        Orbit
        {
            referenceBody = Sentus
            semiMajorAxis = 90000000
            inclination = 0
            eccentricity = 0.009
            longitudeOfAscendingNode = 0
            argumentOfPeriapsis = 0
            meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 0
            epoch = 0
            color = 0.5,0.5,0.5,1.0
        }
        PQS
        {
            Mods
            {
                VertexSimplexHeightAbsolute
{
	name = HeightMod1
	seed = 123
	deformity = 5000
	octaves = 3
	persistence = 0.5
	frequency = 1
	enabled = true
	order = 2
}
VertexSimplexHeightAbsolute
{
	name = HeightMod2
	seed = 456
	deformity = 2500
	octaves = 3
	persistence = 0.5
	frequency = 1
	enabled = true
	order = 3
}
HeightColorMap
{
	blend = 0.5
	enabled = true
	order = 10 //make this number higher than the HeightMods
	LandClasses
	{
		Class
		{
			name = Base
			altitudeStart = 0
			altitudeEnd = 0.1
			color = 0.1,0.1,0.1,1.0
			lerpToNext = true
		}
		Class
		{
			name = Low
			altitudeStart = 0.1
			altitudeEnd = 0.6
			color = 0.1,0.1,0.6,1.0
			lerpToNext = true
		}
		Class
		{
			name = Mid
			altitudeStart = 0.6
			altitudeEnd = 0.8
			color = 0.2,0.2,0.8,1.0
			lerpToNext = true
		}
		Class
		{
			name = High
			altitudeStart = 0.8
			altitudeEnd = 2
			color = 1.0,1.0,1.0,0.8
			lerpToNext = false
		}
	}
}
            }
        }
    }
}

Here's the ingame mess.

That is what it is supposed to look like.

1. You do not alter the scaledspace which is why it looks like Minmus from far away. Do this after you are happy with the planet, export the textures with Kittopia and use them for the scaledspace.

2. If you want the planet to look different, input your own PQS. This example code is just to show that a planet does not need maps to function. The blue blotches are the lower ares.

Just take a look at what the code actually does. The heightmods add deformity, then HeightColorMap adds color BASED OFF the deformity.

The classes 'low' and 'mid' add a blueish color, while the classes above that add white.

A lack of eclipses, I am uncertain if KSP actually already added that. AFAIK eclipses only block the sunflare but have no terrain darkening.

But regarding the planet above, what exactly did you expect to pop up?

Edited February 22, 2017 by The White Guardian

[DerpzGames]

1 hour ago, The White Guardian said:

That is what it is supposed to look like.

1. You do not alter the scaledspace which is why it looks like Minmus from far away. Do this after you are happy with the planet, export the textures with Kittopia and use them for the scaledspace.

2. If you want the planet to look different, input your own PQS. This example code is just to show that a planet does not need maps to function. The blue blotches are the lower ares.

Just take a look at what the code actually does. The heightmods add deformity, then HeightColorMap adds color BASED OFF the deformity.

The classes 'low' and 'mid' add a blueish color, while the classes above that add white.

A lack of eclipses, I am uncertain if KSP actually already added that. AFAIK eclipses only block the sunflare but have no terrain darkening.

But regarding the planet above, what exactly did you expect to pop up?

To be quite honest, I wasn't really expecting anything. It was more of a test to see what would happen.

 

When I said the sun shines through the planet, I mean you can literally see the sun through the planet.

[Sigma88]

6 minutes ago, DerpzGames said:

To be quite honest, I wasn't really expecting anything. It was more of a test to see what would happen.

 

When I said the sun shines through the planet, I mean you can literally see the sun through the planet.

You probably need to delete the .bin file and let kopernicus generate a new one

You might need to force it

[DerpzGames]

I now have a result which I can deem a success. I'm just updating the config file now.

[DerpzGames]

Well I've managed to get the terrain correct, now it's just the scaledversion which looks like a giant ball rather than what it should be.

 

The Actual Moon

 

The ScaledVersion

 

@Sigma88 @The White Guardian

How do I fix this?

Edited February 22, 2017 by DerpzGames

[The White Guardian]

4 hours ago, DerpzGames said:

Well I've managed to get the terrain correct, now it's just the scaledversion which looks like a giant ball rather than what it should be.

 

The Actual Moon

 

The ScaledVersion

 

@Sigma88 @The White Guardian

How do I fix this?

1. Export the textures in Kittopia

2. Update the 'mesh' in Kittopia (and/or delete the cache file and restart KSP)

That should do the trick.

[NemesisBosseret]

@The White Guardian   ive got a weird bug that doesnt effect game play so not really a big issue but might become one down the line.  Im running opm and kerbal orgins togther with probably 100 some odd other mods.   On game load everything is fine and textures etc all good.   After exiting back to main menu textures for colors are Mia.  So the astroid thats normally brown is now completely white.   Go to exit game.... Game freezes and crash.  Its an interesting problem but could care less because overall game play is working great

[ModerndayLink]

Does anyone know where I cam convert bumpmaps to normal maps?

[The White Guardian]

11 hours ago, NemesisBosseret said:

@The White Guardian   ive got a weird bug that doesnt effect game play so not really a big issue but might become one down the line.  Im running opm and kerbal orgins togther with probably 100 some odd other mods.   On game load everything is fine and textures etc all good.   After exiting back to main menu textures for colors are Mia.  So the astroid thats normally brown is now completely white.   Go to exit game.... Game freezes and crash.  Its an interesting problem but could care less because overall game play is working great

Hmm... I smell a LoadOnDemand issue... are you using Scatterer by chance?

8 hours ago, ModerndayLink64 said:

Does anyone know where I cam convert bumpmaps to normal maps?

GIMP has a downloadable plugin for that. Alternatively there is this:

http://cpetry.github.io/NormalMap-Online/

[NemesisBosseret]

@The White Guardian actually yes i em.     Also useing svt sve, distant object view mod.      Currently only buggy in menu tho not in game....   But also have reaserch bodies in.    But test ran in sandbox and had no graphical glitches... So its a weird bug

[The White Guardian]

25 minutes ago, NemesisBosseret said:

@The White Guardian actually yes i em.     Also useing svt sve, distant object view mod.      Currently only buggy in menu tho not in game....   But also have reaserch bodies in.    But test ran in sandbox and had no graphical glitches... So its a weird bug

I think it's a LoadOnDemand conflict with Scatterer. Pinging @Thomas P. because he knows more about OnDemandLoading than I do.

[ModerndayLink]

5 hours ago, The White Guardian said:

 

GIMP has a downloadable plugin for that. Alternatively there is this:

http://cpetry.github.io/NormalMap-Online/

Ok, thanks!

[fenderzilla]

So is there a reason why the value of "semiMajorAxis" for Jool's moons is always, like, 40% of the number I put in? because this

 

@Kopernicus:AFTER[Kopernicus]
{
    @Body[Tylo]
    {
        @Properties
        {
            geeASL = 0.183
            tidallyLocked = true
            @ScienceValues
            {
                
            }
        }
        @Orbit
        {
            semiMajorAxis = 10,000,000
            inclination = 2.213
            eccentricity = 0.0041
        }
    }
}

results in this

Edited February 23, 2017 by fenderzilla

[The White Guardian]

11 minutes ago, fenderzilla said:

So is there a reason why the value of "semiMajorAxis" for Jool's moons is always, like, 40% of the number I put in? because this

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@Kopernicus:AFTER[Kopernicus]
{
    @Body[Tylo]
    {
        @Properties
        {
            geeASL = 0.183
            tidallyLocked = true
            @ScienceValues
            {
                
            }
        }
        @Orbit
        {
            semiMajorAxis = 10,000,000
            inclination = 2.213
            eccentricity = 0.0041
        }
    }
}

results in this

 

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Take the radius of Jool into account. The semiMajorAxis gives the distance from the moon to the center of the gravity well, ergo the exact center of Jool in this case. Thus add up 6 million meters.

[Sigma88]

1 hour ago, fenderzilla said:

So is there a reason why the value of "semiMajorAxis" for Jool's moons is always, like, 40% of the number I put in? because this

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@Kopernicus:AFTER[Kopernicus]
{
    @Body[Tylo]
    {
        @Properties
        {
            geeASL = 0.183
            tidallyLocked = true
            @ScienceValues
            {
                
            }
        }
        @Orbit
        {
            semiMajorAxis = 10,000,000
            inclination = 2.213
            eccentricity = 0.0041
        }
    }
}

results in this

 

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10,000,000

That's not a number

...

10000000

THAT'S a number!