[1.8.1-1] [PLEASE FORK ME] Kopernicus & KittopiaTech

[Andi K.]

  On 2/2/2020 at 2:30 AM, Galileo said:

Google Sheets

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I've actually had problems using google sheets with the atmosphere spreadsheet in the past. It's indeed possible that I was just being dumb however. That's why I use Excel online for it.

[Galileo]

  On 2/2/2020 at 2:52 AM, AndrewDraws said:

I've actually had problems using google sheets with the atmosphere spreadsheet in the past. It's indeed possible that I was just being dumb however. That's why I use Excel online for it.

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Oh hmm I use it exclusively and haven’t had any issues with it. 
 

 

[Autolyzed Yeast Extract]

wow Im finally getting these curves done, I have no idea what Im doing but I can actually try to make a planet now... but now I have to figure out scatterer and eve. :l

[KerikBalm]

  On 2/2/2020 at 2:18 AM, Autolyzed Yeast Extract said:

I don't have msoffice

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There is always open office. I wish everyone used it. Same functionality, for free, but has some issues sometimes converting between open office and me office formats. Forcing the use of ms office in some cases simply because others use ms office, and it is the "standard".

[mcwaffles2003]

  On 2/2/2020 at 2:18 AM, Autolyzed Yeast Extract said:

I don't have msoffice

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https://www.openoffice.org/

essentially the free version of MSOffice

[DestinyPlayer]

  On 2/2/2020 at 8:51 AM, KerikBalm said:

There is always open office. I wish everyone used it. Same functionality, for free, but has some issues sometimes converting between open office and me office formats. Forcing the use of ms office in some cases simply because others use ms office, and it is the "standard".

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These days it's probably better to use LibreOffice, because OpenOffice has sort of been abandoned. At least from what I remember.

[xman1]

I will second LibreOffice.  OpenOffice is done. 

 

Haven't run across a single thing that LibreOffice can't do that MS Office can.  I know of one, but it is a limitation I will never hit and that is in a spreadsheet.  LibreOffice is limited to 32767x32767 rows and columns and Excel can do double that at over 65,000.  Personally, if you are into a spreadsheet half the size that LibreOffice can do, you are long since due for moving to a database.

Edited February 2, 2020 by xman1

[SuppaTenko]

  On 2/2/2020 at 7:49 PM, xman1 said:

I will second LibreOffice.  OpenOffice is done. 

 

Haven't run across a single thing that LibreOffice can't do that MS Office can.  I know of one, but it is a limitation I will never hit and that is in a spreadsheet.  LibreOffice is limited to 32767x32767 rows and columns and Excel can do double that at over 65,000.  Personally, if you are into a spreadsheet half the size that LibreOffice can do, you are long since due for moving to a database.

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Don't forget VBA Script support. LibreOffice Calc can have problems with MS Office VBA scripts - syntax differences, some different operators etc.
Libreoffice Basic can be tricky. I once wrote special macro-enabled spreadsheet. It automaticaly imported data from certain vendor's monthly packing list, then imported data from .mxl warehouse table by serial number and then it formуed stickers according to the template and send it to thermal printer via COM port. Worked like charm in Excel. Never worked at all in LO/OO

[Sigma88]

  On 2/2/2020 at 3:12 AM, Autolyzed Yeast Extract said:

I have no idea what Im doing but I can actually try to make a planet now...

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it's always a good idea to know what and why you do the things you do for making planets

if you don't understand something it's always better to ask rather than just plop it in there and call it a day

[Stone Blue]

nvm... unecessary reply. sorry

 

Edited February 3, 2020 by Stone Blue

[theJesuit]

I want to thank you all very much for the hard work you have put into the update...

 

Peace.

[Galileo]

The OP will be updated when Thomas has time. For now, just make your way to the GitHub release page and find the new update for 1.8.1 there.

thank you @Sigma88 

thank you @Thomas P.

[Bombaatu]

@Galileo, @Sigma88, @Thomas P. - THANK YOU.

EDIT: One thing to note - I downloaded the Kopernicus 1.8.1-1 from github and am still getting the nyan cat. Loaded up & JNSQ did not load - still have the stock system.  My bad - folder was marked as 1.8.1 but was 1.8.0. Mea Culpa.

Edited February 4, 2020 by Bombaatu

[DeltaDizzy]

Hello, everyone! I and @cwongmath are the maintainers and main authors of the current (and hopefully final) iteration of the Official Kopernicus Wiki. Currently we have every one of the main nodes except for PQS as well as 5 or 6 PQSMods, HazardousBody, and a few more things. To speed things up, we welcome community contributions (which have been sparse so far). If anyone has any knowledge on any PQSMods or sees room for improvement, please please please make a PR and try to lend a hand. We do have some general stylistic guidelines which I will try to bang together into a nice readme over the next few days, but it boils down to a few things:

1. Use a proper code editor (Notepad++ or Visual Studio Code w/ mdlint are preferred)
2. Use a git client. NO WEB EDITOR.
3. Spaces, not tabs. 2 spaces per indent.
4. Each page shall consist of a Title, example config (see existing pages for what the structure should be), and a table containing all field names, the associated datatype, and a description of what it is/does. The Kopernicus source code is your best friend here.
5. If in doubt, copy/paste an existing page and change everything around.

Don't worry if you cant do a whole page or if you arent sure if the formatting is perfect. As long as we can tell you put effort in, we will make up the difference. 

To start off, fork this repo, make the changes, and make a PR to kopernicuswiki/dev (to be created soon) and we will take it from there. I am available for questions/clarification both here and on Discord as DeltaBoлk#6973. I hope to hear from some of you soon and happy worldbuilding!

Edited February 4, 2020 by DeltaDizzy

[Autolyzed Yeast Extract]

  On 2/3/2020 at 11:13 AM, Sigma88 said:

it's always a good idea to know what and why you do the things you do for making planets

if you don't understand something it's always better to ask rather than just plop it in there and call it a day

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There is a lot I don't understand. The problem is not that I don't want to ask questions, it's that nobody wants to answer them, or at least provide a decent alternative.

For instance, I want to create planet height and color maps without breaking my spine, but because Gameslinx uploaded a video where he made a single one in paint after a lot more effort than is probably necessary and then cheated by using After Effects to make the color maps (which everyone says can be done via PQSmods but of course no one says how), everyone avoids the topic and just tells me to splash a bunch of white on a bunch of black and then make a lucky guess with PQSmods or color curves all of which I have tried to do long enough to say that it doesn't work very well, at least if you're inexperienced and artistically challenged like me. I have been searching for years for a resource that can help calculate those dreadful atmosphere curves, one of the biggest blocks I've had to overcome with planet creating. Now I have to tackle PQS and finalizing the way Kopernicus reads the config to convince it to actually spawn the planet, which is a whole different beast in of itself.

Also the last comment is the first I've heard of a recently maintained wiki other than the scattered, morbidly outdated resources I usually find when I search for help with Kopernicus. I found it after some digging and will browse through it later.

Edited February 4, 2020 by Autolyzed Yeast Extract

[Aodhan]

  On 2/4/2020 at 2:12 AM, Galileo said:

The OP will be updated when Thomas has time. For now, just make your way to the GitHub release page and find the new update for 1.8.1 there.

thank you @Sigma88 

thank you @Thomas P.

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Many thanks to everyone who is contributing to maintain this wonderful mod.

I’m gonna try it this evening 

Edited February 4, 2020 by Aodhan

[WarriorSabe]

  On 2/4/2020 at 4:34 AM, Autolyzed Yeast Extract said:

There is a lot I don't understand. The problem is not that I don't want to ask questions, it's that nobody wants to answer them, or at least provide a decent alternative.

For instance, I want to create planet height and color maps without breaking my spine, but because Gameslinx uploaded a video where he made a single one in paint after a lot more effort than is probably necessary and then cheated by using After Effects to make the color maps (which everyone says can be done via PQSmods but of course no one says how), everyone avoids the topic and just tells me to splash a bunch of white on a bunch of black and then make a lucky guess with PQSmods or color curves all of which I have tried to do long enough to say that it doesn't work very well, at least if you're inexperienced and artistically challenged like me. I have been searching for years for a resource that can help calculate those dreadful atmosphere curves, one of the biggest blocks I've had to overcome with planet creating. Now I have to tackle PQS and finalizing the way Kopernicus reads the config to convince it to actually spawn the planet, which is a whole different beast in of itself.

Also the last comment is the first I've heard of a recently maintained wiki other than the scattered, morbidly outdated resources I usually find when I search for help with Kopernicus. I found it after some digging and will browse through it later.

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Where have you been asking? Most of us on the kopernicus discord are happy to help.

[SuppaTenko]

So it's a good morning after all, huh? Now I can finish my mod pack. 
It seems that most of planet packs work fine. Thank you for your hard work, guys!

[Sunscreen]

Huge appreciation to the folks who have been working on this. Very grateful for your knowledge and hard work!

[StoneWolfPC]

*mind explodes in joy*  loading KSP at 2 am simply because I NOTICED it was updated thanks to facebook?  Yeah..... I should be in bed............ who cares.  I can sleep when Jeb's dead right?

[mcwaffles2003]

so do we have to wait for the planet packs to update now or should they just work?

 

also.......

 

THANK YOU!  

Edited February 4, 2020 by mcwaffles2003

[amarillo114]

Holy molly!!! Thank you guys for all the love, time and effort!! 

[Gameslinx]

Congratulations on the update and for the continued work on Kopernicus

[klgraham1013]

Many thanks and much gratitude!

Edited February 4, 2020 by klgraham1013

[PyjackMeat]

  On 2/4/2020 at 10:53 AM, mcwaffles2003 said:

so do we have to wait for the planet packs to update now or should they just work?

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Any using PQS/Mods or Voronoi Craters will need updated.