The Gaelan Space Race (we have a winner!)

[Spaceman.Spiff]

1 hour ago, jimmymcgoochie said:

@Spaceman.Spiff@Selective Genius @minerbat @GuessingEveryDay @Lewie Can I get a status report?

Haven’t really had much opportunity to do my next mission. School and New World have kept me from playing much KSP. 

[GuessingEveryDay]

 Oh, bug destroyed game. I was trying to make a pendulum rocket, but that didn't work.

[minerbat]

On 10/12/2021 at 5:37 PM, jimmymcgoochie said:

@Spaceman.Spiff@Selective Genius @minerbat @GuessingEveryDay @Lewie Can I get a status report?

i havent had much time to play but i will have fall vacation next week so hopefully i can make some more progress

[minerbat]

https://imgur.com/OGnCMor

i wanted to continue, but for some reason time has gone back to 2h 57m, which is just after the Newton 6 failiure. also the tech node survivability has not been unlocked, even
though Newton 6 and later crafts used those parts. what should i do now?

Edited October 17, 2021 by minerbat

[jimmymcgoochie]

1 hour ago, minerbat said:

https://imgur.com/OGnCMor

i wanted to continue, but for some reason time has gone back to 2h 57m, which is just after the Newton 6 failiure.
also the tech node survivability has not been unlocked, even though Newton 6 and later crafts used those parts. what should i do now?

Go to KSP/saves/(your save name)/backups, copy those backup save files and paste them in the folder up then try loading them in game and see if any of them don't have the problem?
(Also the text in your post isn't wrapping across lines for some reason, that's a bit weird...)

Edited October 17, 2021 by jimmymcgoochie

[minerbat]

20 hours ago, jimmymcgoochie said:

Go to KSP/saves/(your save name)/backups, copy those backup save files and paste them in the folder up then try loading them in game and see if any of them don't have the problem?
(Also the text in your post isn't wrapping across lines for some reason, that's a bit weird...)

doesnt work... they all go back to even earlier

[Selective Genius]

@jimmymcgoochie I barely have any time to surf the internet, let alone play KSP because of several national level examinations over the past 2 months, which would continue until late November. It is regrettable, but I would like to withdraw my participation.

[jinnantonix]

Phase 3: Gaelans in Space Soonest

 

MISSION 1:  Gael Orbiter.   Y1 D365 03:38:36  - Y1 D365 04:13:52

• First crewed orbit of Gael- must complete one full orbit and then return to the surface alive! Completed Y1 D365 04:13:52

Spoiler

 

 

De-orbiting burn

 

 

 

 

MISSION 2:  Iota Orbiter/Lander.   Y1 D365 04:53:08  - Y1 D367 04:10:05

• First crewed orbit of Iota;  Completed Y1 D367 03:55:295
• First crewed landing (with flag!) on Iota;   Completed Y1 D367 04:10:05

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MISSION 3:  Ceti Orbiter/Lander.   Y1 D365 03:49:49  - Y1 D368 03:21:56

• First crewed orbit of Ceti;    Completed Y1 D368 03:15:15
• First crewed landing on Ceti;  Completed Y1 D368 03:21:56

 

Spoiler

Ceti Lander Launch

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MISSION 4:  Gael Space Station.   Y1 D369 00:28:35  - Y1 D369 03:11:29

• First space station around Gael- must have at least six (internal!) seats, launched empty and then complete an orbit with at least two crew aboard to complete this objective;

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MISSION 5:  Iota Space Station.   Y1 D369 03:29:46  - Y1 D371 00:52:41

First space station around a moon of Gael- same rules apply as for the Gael space station;

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MISSION 6:  Iota Base Station.   Y1 D369 03:59:36  - Y1 D372 04:06:27

• First surface base on a moon of Gael- must have at least six internal seats, launched and landed empty then be occupied by at least two crew to complete this objective.

 

Spoiler

 

Iota Base rendezvous with Iota Space Station.

Crew from the previous Iota Lander mission rendezvous with the Space Station.

Iota Base descends to the surface.

Iota Base landed, uncrewed.

Using landing guidance, it was simple to land right next to the Iota Base.

 

Galileo and Bobert enter the Iota Base.  Regrettably the planned JAMMED science experiment failed (not enough power), so they return to the Iota Space Station with samples
 

 

At completion of this phase:

• the two crew of Ceti Lander collected samples from 3 adjacent biomes, ascended to the return craft and three crew safely landed on Gael.
• the two crew of Iota Base Station collected sample science, and then ascended to the Iota Base station where they remain running science in the space station
• the 6 crew of the Gael Space station collected science for a short period, then returned safely to Gael in two separate return capsules.

 

Edited October 19, 2021 by jinnantonix

[Turbofreak]

The Drunken space Pirate.CO would like to Join in on this wonderful endeavor, Though I do believe we may be a Bit late to the Party 

[Turbofreak]

And were off to a late and Groggy start...  But here is the current operation/situation Jeb  was recently promoted in the R/D Department as he decided to retire from space flight for now. BOY, HOW  THIS WAS THE "WORST" best decision we made...... JEB in his haste for Other Kerbals to fly Forgot to unlock the Drones.

Phase 1 Status/Progress:

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ONGOING MISSIONS:

• First launch- must reach 5km AGL;     IN PROGRESS   (2 invalid attempts)
• First to reach space- must leave the atmosphere;  IN PROGRESS  (2 invalid attempts)

MISSIONS  COMING SOON:

• First orbit- must complete one full orbit;
• First orbit and return- must complete one full orbit before returning;
• First flyby of Iota;
• First impactor on Iota- must hit the ground at >100m/s;
• First orbit of Iota;
• First soft landing on Iota;
• First flyby of Ceti;
• First impactor on Ceti (>100m/s velocity);
• First orbit of Ceti;
• First soft landing on Ceti;
• First interplanetary probe- leave Gael's SOI to claim this one, however you can aim at another planet if you want!
• Sample return mission to Iota- must soft land on the moon, run an experiment and then transport the data/sample back to the surface of Gael intact!
• Sample return mission to Ceti- same conditions as above;

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Current time is:  Y1 D1 H2 M3 With 2 Objectives in Mind.. Reach 5K  and Breach  though the atmosphere... Though We need to unlock drones. On a side note i also saw 2 unauthorized manned (capsules launched with test dummies)  And All be it made decent progress  sadly 1 of the 2 burnt up apon re entry the second one will do the same if my calculations are correct.... ( NOTE: with regards to the first Phase rules these 2 launches described these are invalid launches)

Edited October 21, 2021 by Turbofreak

[jimmymcgoochie]

@Turbofreak Are you using Probes Before Crew? It doesn't look like it.

[Turbofreak]

11 minutes ago, jimmymcgoochie said:

@Turbofreak Are you using Probes Before Crew? It doesn't look like it.

Yep its in my Gamedata Folder @jimmymcgoochie

im on the latest version of ksp

Edited October 21, 2021 by Turbofreak

[Turbofreak]

@jimmymcgoochieive just noticed the Probes before crew is attempting to work i see a SPAM of communitorn 8 in my research in the first research node

 

[Turbofreak]

Phase 1 Status/Progress:

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COMPLETE MISSIONS:

• First launch- must reach 5km AGL;  Complete   (2 invalid attempts)  Time Taken: Y1 D1 H1 M1 - Y1 D1 H4 M53...
• First to reach space- must leave the atmosphere;  Complete  (2 invalid attempts) Time Taken: Y1 D1 H1 M1 - Y1 D1 H4 M55...
• Spoiler

  

•  What the craft looks like:

  Spoiler

  

   

ONGOING MISSIONS:

• RESARCHING SAS SYSTEMS /SOLAR BEFORE CONTINUING PHASE 1 Missions

MISSIONS  COMING SOON:

• First orbit- must complete one full orbit;
• First orbit and return- must complete one full orbit before returning;
• First flyby of Iota;
• First impactor on Iota- must hit the ground at >100m/s;
• First orbit of Iota;
• First soft landing on Iota;
• First flyby of Ceti;
• First impactor on Ceti (>100m/s velocity);
• First orbit of Ceti;
• First soft landing on Ceti;
• First interplanetary probe- leave Gael's SOI to claim this one, however you can aim at another planet if you want!
• Sample return mission to Iota- must soft land on the moon, run an experiment and then transport the data/sample back to the surface of Gael intact!
• Sample return mission to Ceti- same conditions as above;

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Current time is:  Y1 D1 H2 M3 With 2 Objectives in Mind.. Reach 5K  and Breach  though the atmosphere... Objective 1 of 2 complete breach 5k On to the next objective Hopefully with a more stable flight..

Edited October 22, 2021 by Turbofreak

[Turbofreak]

Recently unlocked the Planes after i unlocked the basic Sas. Next science Probe project is going to solar/ Then advanced sas  total of 180 science 

Manned Science collectoer Mk1 The Juno engines in this configuration can break the speed of sound but just barely  and they are super effeicent  sipping on fuel.  im almost half way to the north pole From there ill collect a sample of dirt then return home followed by doing the same thing  untill i get enough science out of this planet

 

[Turbofreak]

Phase 1 Status/Progress:

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COMPLETE MISSIONS:

• First launch- must reach 5km AGL;  Complete   (2 invalid attempts)  Time Taken: Y1 D1 H1 M1 - Y1 D1 H4 M53...
• First to reach space- must leave the atmosphere;  Complete  (2 invalid attempts) Time Taken: Y1 D1 H1 M1 - Y1 D1 H4 M55...
•   Hide contents

  

•  What the craft looks like:

    Hide contents

  

   

ONGOING MISSIONS:

• First orbit- must complete one full orbit;     IN PROGRESS
•  What the craft looks like:
• Spoiler

  Had to goto work so will post soon

   

MISSIONS  COMING SOON:

• First orbit and return- must complete one full orbit before returning;
• First flyby of Iota;
• First impactor on Iota- must hit the ground at >100m/s;
• First orbit of Iota;
• First soft landing on Iota;
• First flyby of Ceti;
• First impactor on Ceti (>100m/s velocity);
• First orbit of Ceti;
• First soft landing on Ceti;
• First interplanetary probe- leave Gael's SOI to claim this one, however you can aim at another planet if you want!
• Sample return mission to Iota- must soft land on the moon, run an experiment and then transport the data/sample back to the surface of Gael intact!
• Sample return mission to Ceti- same conditions as above;

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Current time is:  Y1 D1 H2 M3 With 2 Objectives in Mind.. Reach 5K  and Breach  though the atmosphere... Objective 1 of 2 complete breach 5k On to the next objective Hopefully with a more stable flight..

Edited October 22, 2021 by Turbofreak

[jimmymcgoochie]

@Turbofreak you don't have to post everything you're doing, just when you actually complete the objectives. It would also help if you could use the Historian mod which adds some useful context to your screenshots.

[Turbofreak]

Ok Will do

[jinnantonix]

@jimmymcgoochie another quick question.  I am planning on a crewed landing on Icarus.  This will require a LOT of delta-V.  My plan is to make a single vessel from docking in Gael orbit a crewed vessel and an uncrewed vessel (nuclear tug).  The vessels never detach again, however the craft drops tanks as it progresses.  I am happy to initially count the vessel as if it is two vessels (one crewed, one uncrewed).  At what point could I consider it a single crewed vessel?  eg when all the fuel and tanks in the nuclear tug are dropped?

Also does the requirement for internal seats in a crewed vessel apply for craft returning to Gael.

Edit: 
I decided that Icarus was too hard, and went to Tellumo instead.
The return craft included the Lander (two internal seats) and the re-entry pod (4 internal seats).

Edited November 7, 2021 by jinnantonix

[jinnantonix]

Phase 4: To Boldly Go

MISSION 1:  Deep Space.   Y1 D374 01:52:59  - Y1 D392 05:57:05

• First crewed vessel to leave Gael’s SOI; Completed Y1 D392 05:57:05

 

Spoiler

First Launch

 

 

 

Re-orienting, Apollo style

 

 

Reaching SOI

 

 

After reaching deep space, the probe reverses thrust and returns to Gael.

 

 

 

 

MISSION 2:  Thalia 2 Mission   Y2 D94 01:52:07  - Y2 D173 01:54:57

• First crewed interplanetary orbit; Completed Y2 D252 02:55:18
• First crewed interplanetary landing; Completed Y2 D173 01:54:57

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

First crewed orbit  - Thalia.

Thalia Relay

 

Landed on Thalia - first crewed landing.  Very hot!

 

 

 

 

Rendezvous in Thalia Orbit -  Apollo style

 

Landed at Eta - 2nd crewed landing

 

 

Safely returned from Thalia

 

MISSION 3:  Gratian Mission   

• First to have ten interplanetary probes in orbit around ten different planets and moons beyond Gael’s SOI at the same time;
• First to land crew on five different bodies outside Gael’s SOI;

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

Entering Gratian orbit

 

Decoupling Gratian Relay Probe

 

Entering Geminus orbit

 

Geminus Orbital probe

 

Landed at Geminus

 

Safely home from Gratian

 

 

MISSION 4:  Gauss Mission   

• First to have ten interplanetary probes in orbit around ten different planets and moons beyond Gael’s SOI at the same time;
• Complete the three landings on Icarus, Lili and Tarsiss;  <<< Landing on Tarsiss

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Gravity capture and burn at Catellus (Tarsiss rising)

Catellus Orbital probe

 

Loki Capture and burn

Loki Orbital probe

 

Tarsiss Lander

 

Gauss Mission Completed

 

 

MISSION 5:  Niven Mission   

• First to have ten interplanetary probes in orbit around ten different planets and moons beyond Gael’s SOI at the same time;
• First to land crew on five different bodies outside Gael’s SOI;

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

Deploying Niven Relay probe

 

 

Landed on Niven

 

Safely Home form Niven

 

 

 

MISSION 6:  Tellumo 2 Mission   

• First to have ten interplanetary probes in orbit around ten different planets and moons beyond Gael’s SOI at the same time;
• First to land crew on five different bodies outside Gael’s SOI;

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

Entering Tellumo orbit

 

Landed on Lili
 

 

Safely home from Tellumo

Tellumo 2 Mission Completed

 

 

• First to have ten interplanetary probes in orbit around ten different planets and moons   (Previously.  Thalia, Eta , Icarus, Tellumo, Lili)
  • Niven
  • Gratian
  • Geminus
  • Catellis, 
  • Loki Completed Y4 D111 01:32:05

Complete the three landings on Icarus, Lili and Tarsiss; >>> Tarsiss Landing Completed Y4 D112 00:23:34

• First to land crew on five different bodies outside Gael’s SOI;  
  • Thalia
  • Eta
  • Geminus
  • Lili
  • Niven Completed Y4 D112 03:18:27    

... Onward to Grannus.

Edited November 7, 2021 by jinnantonix

[jinnantonix]

@jimmymcgoochie as a check for the rules here is my strategy for Grannus.  

• Crewed interplanetary ships must have at least six internal seats, have at least three crew and at least one free seat per two crew. 
• Interstellar ships need 10 seats and at least six crew, with one free seat per two crew; landers must have at least two crew and three total seats.
  
  Can I have an interplanetary ship that has 12 seats and 6 crew, that after reaching Grannus SOI, splits into two active vessels each with 6 seats and 3 crew?
  Can I dock two active interstellar ships, dock them together, and then later split them apart into two active vessel again.
   

Edited November 12, 2021 by jinnantonix

[jinnantonix]

@jimmymcgoochie I have hit a fatal bug.  Whenever I time warp I get a message " A producer of ElectricCharge has incoherent behaviour.." and it wont allow me to warp faster than x1000.  I loaded Better Time Warp to see if this would fix it, it doesn't.  In fact Better Time Warp doesn't seem to work at all, nothing I press increases time warp.  Any ideas?  I obviously cant get to Grannus without enhanced time warp.

[jimmymcgoochie]

2 hours ago, jinnantonix said:

@jimmymcgoochie I have hit a fatal bug.  Whenever I time warp I get a message " A producer of ElectricCharge has incoherent behaviour.." and it wont allow me to warp faster than x1000.  I loaded Better Time Warp to see if this would fix it, it doesn't.  In fact Better Time Warp doesn't seem to work at all, nothing I press increases time warp.  Any ideas?  I obviously cant get to Grannus without enhanced time warp.

That’s a Kerbalism thing. It should work fine if you go to the tracking station; it always has for me at any rate.

[jinnantonix]

18 hours ago, jimmymcgoochie said:

That’s a Kerbalism thing. It should work fine if you go to the tracking station; it always has for me at any rate.

200 years for a Grannus transit in the tracking station?   Is there a way to increase the maximum time warp speed?

Edit:  I just fiddled with Better Time Warp, and now getting good results in the tracking station.  So all good.

Edited November 13, 2021 by jinnantonix

[jimmymcgoochie]

A little bit of rule clarification in response to a query from @jinnantonix:

ANY crewed ship that leaves Gael's SOI is an interplanetary ship, and ANY crewed ship that enters Grannus' SOI is an interstellar ship; they should have a minimum internal seat count of 6 and 10 respectively at all times, how you do that is up to you.