Stock BDA dogfighters 1.2 (youtube)

[drtricky]

19 hours ago, goduranus said:

OP's original rules apply. Also no laser turrets even if it's fixed forward, perfect accuracy is kinda cheap.

Were lasers that devastating, even when fixed forwards?

[Joseph Kerman]

1 hour ago, drtricky said:

Were lasers that devastating, even when fixed forwards?

No, It took a while to break structural plates from 150m, and the AI cannot fix the plane well enough for the laser to be fired.

[goduranus]

Structural plates is the strongest part in the game, lasers will destroy most wings or aerodynamic parts in about 1 seconds from 500m. Also my observations of the Solarius, it was able to keep its fixed forward laser on target for 5 seconds at a time.

Edited June 18, 2017 by goduranus

[goduranus]

Youtube crashed when I was adding music, so here's Solarius vs The Dorito without music.

Something I noticed was that lasers fired by the plane you're watching is impotent, consistently lagging behind the target, but lasers fired by the planes you're not watching are very accurate.

 

Edited June 18, 2017 by goduranus

[SuicidalInsanity]

I've noticed less that perfect accuracy from unfocused craft in my own dogfights, but if laser performance is (at least in part) determined by which craft is currently focused on, that alone justifies a laser ban. In light of this, I'm willing to withdraw the Solarius from the fight lineup for future skirmishes.

[KenjiKrafts]

@Triop Is my interceptor welcome here??

Edited June 18, 2017 by KenjiKrafts

[goduranus]

@SuicidalInsanity I suspect it has something to do with the order that craft positions and orientations are calculated, maybe sometimes the craft firing the laser is updated before the targeted, so by the time the laser fires the target has already moved forward by one frame's distance. This would be consistent with my suspicion that crafts closer to the camera are updated first. It probably affects cannons as well, but cannons' inaccuracy makes this less sever of a problem.

 

@KenjiKrafts Yes, but make sure it has BD Armory Flight Computer and Weapons Manager setup like in the thread's opening post.

Edited June 19, 2017 by goduranus

[keptin]

@goduranus For your consideration, the Micro A: https://u66999462.dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66999462/Micro A.craft

 

[goduranus]

Micro A vs the Dorito, very short match with many missile kills. A single Micro A faced a Dorito at the end, with the Dorito finishing the match with a gun kill.

 

 

Edited June 22, 2017 by goduranus

[keptin]

Wow, that gun kill was awesome! Back to the drawing board.

[keptin]

@goduranus Presenting the faster and fiercer Micro AII: https://u66999462.dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66999462/Micro AII.craft

 

Edited June 22, 2017 by keptin

[goduranus]

 

MicroAll cripple or destroy all Doritoes, but in their moment of flawless victory a stray missile managed to knock out a MicroAll, bringing the score to 2-0

 

 

[StupidAndy]

maybe I'll byte (hah, programming joke, I think...)

just to be sure, its stock planes, with BDA as the only mod for weapons purposes?

[goduranus]

@StupidAndy only stock and BDA, and look like a reasonable plane.

ADFX-01 Morgan vs MicroAll, with MicroAll and Morgan each scoring a missile kill, the final victory was decided in a gun duel with the Morgan coming on top

 

[aleksey444]

AF-2 Badger.

FIGHT ME!

 

 

 

Craft file (2 sources, in case something doesn't work):

https://nofile.io/f/rBeIfZxWuNc/AF-2+Badger.craft

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=49408913642953123600

 

Edited June 23, 2017 by aleksey444

[Dark Lion]

@Triop I've got one for ya, but she's already in a running competition, tournament-style. Should she be defeated in said competition, only then will I release the design to KerbalX. Is there some way I might send you callsign "Panthero Leo" privately? Or would you prefer that I just wait until said tourney is over and notify you then?

[goduranus]

@TheLionsBiteWhich one is it? You can send me the link in a PM.

@aleksey444 that one is pushing the limits of the original rule where it says the craft should look like a plane. It looks like an A-wing, is there a real world plane that has a similar configuration, if not then maybe @Triop can pitch in?

[Dark Lion]

@goduranus Define "it" for me, please?

[goduranus]

@TheLionsBite, Edit: Oh your plane is Panthero Leo

Triop is away so I'm taking over for him temporarily, so you can send me the plane in a PM if you like.

Edited June 23, 2017 by goduranus

[Dark Lion]

@goduranus Oh, yes. Callsigns "Panthera Leo" and "Alpha" are both my design for competition on Jolly Roger's tournament. Both have fought their first of the season as well, so you should have a fine example in episodes 3 and 4. Hope you're enjoying it too. Buuuut.... I was just re-checking my AI settings to ensure she complies with the regulation and realized I actually don't have a craft that will. Panthera Leo's Weapon Manager and AI Pilot are both housed within the same structural fuselage and she's designed to be an air-superiority drone. Sorry to jump the gun. I should've read the rules better.

And take one look at Alpha and it's pretty obvious she won't comply with these regulations either. So... in the words of the Terminator: "The data could be called 'pain.'" LOL! I'll be back with something eventually.

[goduranus]

@TheLionsBite, would you like a special challenge, with what you will send in for PFC4 against my plane for PFC4? I will also reveal  my plane design to you too, of-course.

[Dark Lion]

NEGATIVE @goduranus You won't recon my blueprints that easily, you devil! 

Seriously though, I'm intrigued at what you're prepared to sortie for PFC4 (should JRA continue the series to PFC4, which is debatable), but I'd rather it be a more realistic encounter as we meet in battle. I can see your drones coming and must act without an intimate knowledge of said drones' potential because they are all AI-controlled. AI feels no fear, has no insight and must comply with programming. My understanding of physics gives me an edge over my competition through the design process and I'd wish for no more than that. At least that's what I'd like to think... LOL! I guess we'll find out!

Also: are you participating in JRA's PFC3 as well? If yes, which plane(s) have you entered with?

[goduranus]

@TheLionsBite Mine is the Falken, in the most recent episode. It's rather poorly tuned, because my main craft was having problems around the submission deadline I send in an old plane. But the main craft is done now, and it beats every craft I tested it against. JRA did say something about doing PFC, but it'll probably be 2-3 months away.

How about this? Try to beat my craft. If you can beat mine, then keep yours a secret. If my craft wins, then you let me a look at your craft. I'm pretty confident about mine, I think seeing yours won't make me change anything. I particularly want to test against the Alpha though.

Here's my craft: 

https://kerbalx.com/goduranus/P-1187-Super-Dreadnought or https://kerbal.curseforge.com/projects/ultimate-jet-fighter-p-1187-super-dreadnought

Edited June 23, 2017 by goduranus

[Dark Lion]

@goduranus I'm going to assume when you say 

3 hours ago, goduranus said:

But the main craft is done now, and it beats every craft I tested it against.

that you've taken your Super Dreadnought to Dakka I and were victorious. For this, my competitive nature responds. However, my secretive nature still prevails. I would rather know you've beaten Dakka I and then cling to the edge of my seat as our beasties ignite the sky with sound and fury!

I know, I know, I'm such a hard-S about it... but I'm willing to compromise a little for the sake of sportsmanship. I'll test Alpha against your Super Dreadnought one-on-one and provide a link to the (rough) video when I'm finished. If Alpha is victorious, you MUST submit a different craft to PFC4 altogether. If your Super Dreadnought is victorious, I will make Alpha's blueprint public. Sound like a decent enough compromise to you, sir? I'll start downloading and recording the moment we come to an agreement.

Edited June 23, 2017 by TheLionsBite

[goduranus]

Yes, but how about 2v2? 1v1 is a bit iffy sometimes, the AI often derps out.