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Can confirm that this is not happening for everyone on 1.8.x as my install is working fine with this.

What is the difference between this and your science alert re-alerted mod?

ON Github, all the releases look to be there. Look for this.

It affects rings and such - I don't think rings work without kopernicus, but maybe I read that incorrectly. That means there's a version mismatch between this and that.

I thought kopernicus wasn't updated for 1.8 yet?

Fantastic news, thank you!

Sorry @linuxgurugamer, after poking around I don't know for sure if this is a problem with SAReA, or one of the dependencies. From the Player.log I can only see ScienceAlert errors. The bad interaction doesn't seem to happen until after I install DMagic Module Science Animate. When this is installed I can interact with the science parts fine on a ship load. However, if I click on the Deploy All button in SAReA interface then the Goo and Sci Jr parts fail to respond or animate. Here's the log... Edit to add ksp.log ERRs, though I know that log is not always considered useful. [ERR 23:05:57.993] ScienceAlert: Failed to invoke "DeployExperiment" using GetType(), falling back to base type after encountering exception System.MissingMethodException: ModuleScienceExperiment.DeployExperiment Due to: Attempted to access a missing member. at System.RuntimeType.InvokeMember (System.String name, System.Reflection.BindingFlags bindingFlags, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object target, System.Object[] providedArgs, System.Reflection.ParameterModifier[] modifiers, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture, System.String[] namedParams) [0x0070c] in <ad04dee02e7e4a85a1299c7ee81c79f6>:0 at System.Type.InvokeMember (System.String name, System.Reflection.BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object target, System.Object[] args) [0x00000] in <ad04dee02e7e4a85a1299c7ee81c79f6>:0 at ScienceAlert.Experiments.ExperimentObserver.Deploy () [0x00055] in <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0 [LOG 23:05:57.994] [Experiments]: Setting FX Modules to 1... [LOG 23:05:57.994] [Experiments]: FX Modules set: 1 [LOG 23:06:07.582] Added 1.999999 (2) reputation: 'Progression'. [ERR 23:06:08.873] ScienceAlert: Failed to invoke "DeployExperiment" using GetType(), falling back to base type after encountering exception System.MissingMethodException: DMModuleScienceAnimateGeneric.DMModuleScienceAnimateGeneric.DeployExperiment Due to: Attempted to access a missing member. at System.RuntimeType.InvokeMember (System.String name, System.Reflection.BindingFlags bindingFlags, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object target, System.Object[] providedArgs, System.Reflection.ParameterModifier[] modifiers, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture, System.String[] namedParams) [0x0070c] in <ad04dee02e7e4a85a1299c7ee81c79f6>:0 at System.Type.InvokeMember (System.String name, System.Reflection.BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object target, System.Object[] args) [0x00000] in <ad04dee02e7e4a85a1299c7ee81c79f6>:0 at ScienceAlert.Experiments.ExperimentObserver.Deploy () [0x00055] in <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0 [LOG 23:06:08.873] [Experiments]: Setting FX Modules to 1... [LOG 23:06:08.873] [Experiments]: FX Modules set: 1 [ERR 23:06:08.873] ScienceAlert: Failed to invoke "DeployExperiment" using GetType(), falling back to base type after encountering exception System.MissingMethodException: DMModuleScienceAnimateGeneric.DMModuleScienceAnimateGeneric.DeployExperiment Due to: Attempted to access a missing member. at System.RuntimeType.InvokeMember (System.String name, System.Reflection.BindingFlags bindingFlags, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object target, System.Object[] providedArgs, System.Reflection.ParameterModifier[] modifiers, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture, System.String[] namedParams) [0x0070c] in <ad04dee02e7e4a85a1299c7ee81c79f6>:0 at System.Type.InvokeMember (System.String name, System.Reflection.BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object target, System.Object[] args) [0x00000] in <ad04dee02e7e4a85a1299c7ee81c79f6>:0 at ScienceAlert.Experiments.ExperimentObserver.Deploy () [0x00055] in <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0

@linuxgurugamer so looking at it now, I've tried with just SAReA and its 2 dependencies and I see slightly different behaviour. I see the same type of errors in KSP.log I saw before but I was able to collect science from the parts for regular mystery goo and science jr. I'll have to add back some mods slowly to see where the break happens. In the meantime, here's some snippets of the log. [ERR 21:11:41.581] ScienceAlert: Failed to invoke "DeployExperiment" using GetType(), falling back to base type after encountering exception System.MissingMethodException: ModuleScienceExperiment.DeployExperiment Due to: Attempted to access a missing member. at System.RuntimeType.InvokeMember (System.String name, System.Reflection.BindingFlags bindingFlags, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object target, System.Object[] providedArgs, System.Reflection.ParameterModifier[] modifiers, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture, System.String[] namedParams) [0x0070c] in <ad04dee02e7e4a85a1299c7ee81c79f6>:0 at System.Type.InvokeMember (System.String name, System.Reflection.BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object target, System.Object[] args) [0x00000] in <ad04dee02e7e4a85a1299c7ee81c79f6>:0 at ScienceAlert.Experiments.ExperimentObserver.Deploy () [0x00055] in <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0 [ERR 21:23:31.166] Exception handling event onVesselChange in class DraggableOptionsWindow:System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at ScienceAlert.ProfileData.ScienceAlertProfileManager.get_ActiveProfile () [0x00019] in <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0 at ScienceAlert.Windows.DraggableOptionsWindow.OnProfileChanged () [0x00000] in <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0 at ScienceAlert.Windows.DraggableOptionsWindow.OnVisibilityChanged (System.Boolean tf) [0x00006] in <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0 at ScienceAlert.Windows.DraggableOptionsWindow.OnVesselChanged (Vessel vessel) [0x00007] in <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0 at EventData`1[T].Fire (T data) [0x000b0] in <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0 [EXC 21:23:31.167] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object ScienceAlert.ProfileData.ScienceAlertProfileManager.get_ActiveProfile () (at <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0) ScienceAlert.Windows.DraggableOptionsWindow.OnProfileChanged () (at <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0) ScienceAlert.Windows.DraggableOptionsWindow.OnVisibilityChanged (System.Boolean tf) (at <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0) ScienceAlert.Windows.DraggableOptionsWindow.OnVesselChanged (Vessel vessel) (at <5b63d426cefd489880dbed062d239ee8>:0) EventData`1[T].Fire (T data) (at <9d71e4043e394d78a6cf9193ad011698>:0) UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception) EventData`1:Fire(Vessel) FlightGlobals:setActiveVessel(Vessel, Boolean) FlightGlobals:SetActiveVessel(Vessel) ShipConstruction:AssembleForLaunch(ShipConstruct, String, String, String, Game, VesselCrewManifest, Boolean, Boolean, Boolean, Boolean, Orbit, Boolean, Boolean) ShipConstruction:AssembleForLaunch(ShipConstruct, String, String, String, Game, VesselCrewManifest) FlightDriver:setStartupNewVessel() FlightDriver:Start() [ERR 21:23:34.860] ScienceAlert: ExperimentManager.RebuildObserverList: No ScanInterface component found

Appreciated; I'll look for the update over the next couple of days. Once I digest them I may have some questions about how things work out based on the updated numbers.

@panzer1b I know from the OP that you're not currently offering active support for this mod but can you confirm whether or not this may be true?

Yes.

@Paul Kingtiger I just wanted to ask whether or not the numbers on your website for the different payloads (tank capacities, fuel cell inputs and outputs, etc) are up date with the current release? I'm plugging the numbers into a spreadsheet so I can accurately figure out duration + outputs for a given FC and appropriate tankage. I've come up with some interesting (to me) findings - though I suppose they were common sense after the fact. I wanted to be certain I'm using the right set of figures. Cheers.

Disabled by default. From the main KSC page, click on the USI-LS icon on the toolbar. It will open the settings and you can add Hab back into the mix.

Working for me in 1.8.1

I'll need to get you a log too. I'll do it soon, I uninstalled SAReA because early in my career game, I saw this behaviour with inline goo and science Jr.

I noticed some errors with it on my new 1.8.1 install. I've never see these before. [ERR 15:22:08.101] name specifier detected on insert node (not a patch): MechJebForAll/MechJebAndEngineerForAll/start@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleCommand]]:NEEDS[MechJeb2]:Final [ERR 15:22:08.101] :HAS detected on insert node (not a patch): MechJebForAll/MechJebAndEngineerForAll/start@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleCommand]]:NEEDS[MechJeb2]:Final [ERR 15:22:08.101] pass specifier detected on insert node (not a patch): MechJebForAll/MechJebAndEngineerForAll/start@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleCommand]]:NEEDS[MechJeb2]:Final I do have the latest MechJeb installed. It's not stopping play but the MM does report it during loading screens. FYI - let me know if you want more info to track it down.

I am not seeing these problems at all. Nothing with chutes, no problems with clamps, and I've yet to see Kraken attacks after several hours of play. No problems spawning. I'm using a moderated modded (hehe) install.

@TriggerAu just an FYI - there's no compiled .zip on GitHub; just source code. SpaceDock was fine - I just wanted to let you know.

As Nertea pointed out, the configs are user-contributed. I wonder if @RoverDude changed the way some configs work for USI-LS in the latest update?

From the tiny investigation I did this morning I would agree with your assessment that it's the rotating habs. I'll dig into this more this afternoon, after work if nobody else has a chance.

I'm seeing 2 errors from Module Manager in ...\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\StationPartsExpansionRedux\PatchesSSPXR-USILS.cfg This is a new install I'm setting up for all the 1.8.x updates. Anyone else seeing this? ed - to add that I do have the latest version of USI Life Support (and dependencies) installed. ed2 - Found this in the log [ERR 21:24:33.150] Error - Cannot parse variable search when inserting new key CrewCapacity = #$../MODULE[ModuleDeployableHabitat]/DeployedCrewCapacity$ [LOG 21:24:33.151] Applying update StationPartsExpansionRedux/Patches/SSPXR-USILS/@PART[sspx-inflatable-hab-25-2]:NEEDS[USILifeSupport] to StationPartsExpansionRedux/Parts/Extendable/extendable-25/sspx-inflatable-hab-25-2.cfg/PART[sspx-inflatable-hab-25-2] [ERR 21:24:33.151] Error - Cannot parse variable search when inserting new key CrewCapacity = #$../MODULE[ModuleDeployableHabitat]/DeployedCrewCapacity$ [LOG 21:24:33.153] Applying update StationPartsExpansionRedux/Patches/SSPXR-USILS/@PART[sspx-inflatable-centrifuge-125-1]:NEEDS[USILifeSupport] to StationPartsExpansionRedux/Parts/Extendable/extendable-125/sspx-inflatable-centrifuge-125-1.cfg/PART[sspx-inflatable-centrifuge-125-1]

Thanks for clearing that up. I had suspected as much but sometimes it's difficult to compare parts catalogues.

Literally just answered above.

Is there much/any overlap between the parts introduced here and Restock/Restock+ and other NF mods authored by Nertea and co?

Thank you very much for this update!