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    Rocket Assisted Take-Off Fans?

    in KSP1 Discussion

    Posted

    1 hour ago, mattinoz said:

    What if you eject boosters before leaving the ground? Would that still be a SSTO?

    Now to find a catapult runway mod.

    There's a mod with an aircraft carrier deck, it made a catapult system by having a gap (usually stowed but the deck was animated so it could open) that the front landing gear fit in.  It had a block in the back that pushed the gear forward to accelerate the plane.

    I don't remember what it was called. :(

    Talk like Up-Goer Five

    in Forum Games!

    Posted · Edited by Rath

    Bad train big car is the thing that comes after to water side sun light. The train is the third busiest track road in the track road, and the busiest outside of the cold way line. The rolling stuff road often has big rolling things leading it, two story big line cars having a business class, one bad class, 3 more bad class, and a bad class/stuff/driving place car trailing the train to allow easy stuff carrying in the other way once the train reaches its warm side turn around place of. It goes to to, usually to drop off moving people going places (to head even farther cold place than its coldest place turn), people for LA, or to pick up people going places heading warmer places. lots of often has it taking on normal big cars, single floor and, and even. The moving connected cars are planned to have their job done by other things, the rolling stuff to have their job done by rented rolling cars, like to the ones used on big fall.

     

    Spoiler

    Park Geun-hye is a South Korean politician who served as the 11th President of South Korea, from 2013 to 2017.

    Park — the first woman to be elected as President of South Korea— served the 18th presidential term. She was the first female president popularly elected as head of state in East Asia.

    Prior to her presidency, Park was the chairwoman of the conservative Grand National Party from 2004 to 2006 and from 2011 to 2012. (The GNP changed its name to the "Saenuri Party" in February 2012.) She was also a member of the National Assembly, serving four complete consecutive parliamentary terms as a constituency representative between 1998 and 2012. She started her fifth term as a proportional representative in June 2012. Her father, Park Chung-hee, was the third President of South Korea from 1963 to 1979 after he seized power in 1961.

    In 2013 and 2014, Park was ranked 11th on the Forbes list of the world's 100 most powerful women and the most powerful woman in East Asia. In 2014, she was ranked 46th on the Forbes list of the world's most powerful people, the third-highest South Korean on the list after Lee Kun-hee and Lee Jae-yong.

    On 9 December 2016, Park was impeached by the National Assembly on charges related to influence peddling by a top aide.  Her presidential powers and duties were suspended with the ratification of the impeachment proposal, and Prime Minister Hwang Kyo-ahn assumed those powers and duties as Acting President. The impeachment was upheld by the Constitutional Court on 10 March 2017, ending Park's presidency and forcing her out of office.

     

    Airliner Safety Challenge

    in KSP1 Challenges & Mission ideas

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Hesp said:

    Actually, I like the idea of including suborbital spaceplanes.

    The only requirement needed for a fair challenge would be to have ONLY airbreather engines to avoid entries like mine :) 

    Or just not orbit.  I love the idea of a rocket-boosted space plane jumping between continents.

    1 hour ago, TheEpicSquared said:

    @Rath I'd like to suggest a change in the scoring system. Right now it seems to favor the number of passengers (the x5 multiplier) over anything else. This means that if you have the most amount of passengers, you pretty much win regardless of every other statistic.

    I think that more incentive should be given to other statistics, like range and other things that I can't come up with right now.

    :) 

    That's why I wrote subject to change.  This challenge is still in its infancy.  I think the bonuses should be boosted a lot too because it's a safety challenge.

    tier one only

    in KSP1 Challenges & Mission ideas

    Posted

    This is pretty similar to what you are asking for.

     

    Really, people are not likely to do your challenge if it is 36 words long.  The OP of most challenges are quite long, but more importantly, detailed.  Look at some of the very popular challenges and try to be like them.  It's what I do.

    I try to emulate popular challenges because my weak ego requires people to like what I make, because I want to make a good challenge.

     

    Also, try to avoid posting too many challenges too quickly, as they should be decently thought out, and if one blows up it's a major pain to deal with, although awesome.  I can see three of your challenges on the front page right now, which for less popular challenges means they were posted very close together.

    Airliner Safety Challenge

    in KSP1 Challenges & Mission ideas

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Physics Student said:

    Well, I tried. Category: Heavy (48 Passengers)

    Scoring:

    Bonus points:

    • Your plane cannot tailstrike no matter how hard you pull up on takeoff It does
    • Your plane stalls at less than 50m/s Don't know, definitely more
    • Your plane does not need SAS to fly stably It flies kinda straight but only with SAS enabled and you're not pitching down.
    • Your plane does not need trim adjustment to fly straight and level.  It does but here's the tricky part: The slightest pitch-down causes it to pitch down even harder, burying itself hard into the ground.
    • Your plane can belly land with all crew and passengers surviving It crashes down hard!
    • Your plane has airbrakes It does, 10 Points!
    • Your plane can ditch in the water with all crew surviving Don't know how but this one time, everybody survived. 10 Points!
    • Your plane can ditch in the water with no damage The Cockpit and Passenger Cabin were nearly the only thing in tact.
    • Your plane is a seaplane Parts of it do in fact float!
    • Your plane has a way to jettison fuel without speeding up It has Drop Tanks that were supposed to be also swimmers for Water-Landings. 10 Points
    • Simple fuel and air systems: your plane has all fuel tanks and air intakes in the same stack as an engine 10 Points

    Point malus:

    • Your plane can lose controllability due to fuel shift (-20 points) It doesn't even need to shift fuel
    • Your plane can break up due to aerodynamic forces (-20 points) that's a design feature!
    • Your plane needs all of it's engines to fly (-20 points) Define "to fly"

    Base scoring (Subject to change):

    Max speed+(max distance/10)+((Max passengers*5)*1+(number of flight attendants/2))+Bonus points

    Hmm, Does max speed only count for a flight that had any survivors? I guess in this time, is must have been around 120 m/s (rough estimate)

    Example:

    120+(2/10)+(4*5)*1+(2/2))-20 = 121,2

    That's a positive score, not too bad considering that my plane barely flew at all. The challenge isn't that old so do I have a chance to get on the leaderboard? I thought no one would care for the heavy category too much.

    You can get on the leaderboard if you include a picture.

     

    13 hours ago, Spacetraindriver said:

    Also what's with the no VTOLs rule?

    I can't think of how to score them.  I'll add them if enough people participate, so they can have their own boards.

    Airliner Safety Challenge

    in KSP1 Challenges & Mission ideas

    Posted · Edited by Rath

    6 hours ago, Cunjo Carl said:

    How should we measure max distance? Fuel/time, or just fly it and F3? Just to doublecheck, its units are km?

    Let it fly and F3 once it crashes

    7 hours ago, ruinzv2 said:

    Does this mean touching down on the runway without traditional landing gear? lithobraking?

    Yup!

    1 hour ago, 53miner53 said:

    Question: could I have a 5th engine for moving on the ground? And would a tail strike be counted if it breaks the runway instead of the plane?

    You can have as many engines as you like.  If anything but the wheels touches the ground it's a tail strike.

    Airliner Safety Challenge

    in KSP1 Challenges & Mission ideas

    Posted

    1 hour ago, greenTurtle1134 said:

    Just going to throw out there, there should be a separate category for "flies on any two". Because obviously if the engines taken out are around the centerline, it's much too easy.

    Good ide!

     

    29 minutes ago, KerbinNation said:

    I'm gonna try for a light plane, wish me luck.

     

    Good luck!

     

     

    Airliner Safety Challenge

    in KSP1 Challenges & Mission ideas

    Posted · Edited by Rath
    updated it again

    Airliner Safety Challenge

       

     

     

    In this Challenge you must build an airliner that fits in one of the four categories, each category has it's own scoreboard:

    Light: 2-16 passenger Kerbals.

    Medium: 17-32 passenger Kerbals

    Heavy:32-64 passenger Kerbals

    Super-Heavy: 65+

     

    Rules:

    1. No excessive clipping (Clip any structural parts you want, no fuel tanks into fuel tanks, keep passenger cabins mostly intact).
    2. No Cheats (Duh).
    3. A passenger Kerbal is defined as a Kerbal that is contained within a crew cabin without control capabilities.  The extra crew in the Mk3 cockpit are considered flight attendants, and it has a scoring bonus to reflect this.  You can also add extra (more than two) cockpits to get in on those sweet, sweet flight attendant points.
    4. Any plane must have at least one Kerbal piloting it.  Heavy and above planes must have two pilots.
    5. No floating parts.  I love offset, but at least stick a strut on there.
    6. Mods are allowed, but no cheaty ones.
    7. No staging.
    8. No VTOL.
    9. No parachutes (Except for a single drouge if you really want)
    10. Your plane may leave the atmosphere, but cannot orbit.
    11. your plane cannot contain any rocket engines, and if RAPIERS are included, a screenshot must be provided of all oxidizer drained in the SPH
    12. You must have at least one clear picture of your plane.
    13. Electrical or otherwise infinite range aircraft do not have their range included in the scoring.
    14. You must submit pictures of your plane.  At least one inflight.
    15. You must calculate your own score.

     

    Scoring:

    Bonus points:

    • Your plane cannot tailstrike no matter how hard you pull up on takeoff (20 points)
    • Your plane stalls at less than 50m/s (5 points)
    • Your plane stalls at less than 30m/s (20 points)
    • Your plane stalls at less than 25m/s (30 points)
    • Your plane stalls at less than 20m/s (60 points)
    • Your plane does not need SAS to fly stably (20 points)
    • Your plane does not need trim adjustment to fly straight and level.  This only stacks with the non SAS points. (10 points)
    • Your plane can fly on 50% of its engines (20 points)
    • Your plane can fly on 66.6% of it's engines (5 points)
    • Your plane can fly on 33.3% of it's engines (30 points)
    • Your plane can fly on 25% of it's engines (35 points)
    • Your plane can belly land with all crew and passengers surviving (20 points)
    • Your plane can belly land without damage (40 points)
    • Your plane has airbrakes (10 points)
    • Your plane can ditch in the water with all crew surviving (10 points)
    • Your plane can ditch in the water with no damage (20 points)
    • Your plane is a seaplane (20 points)
    • Your plane is an amphibious seaplane (10 points, stacks with above)
    • Your plane can take off and immediately land back on the runway without turning around, and is heavy size or above (10 points for large 20 points for super-heavy)
    • Your plane has a way to jettison fuel without speeding up (10 points)
    • Your plane can fly on any two engines.
    • Simple fuel and air systems: your plane has all fuel tanks and air intakes in the same stack as an engine (10 points)

    Point malus:

    • Your plane can lose controllability due to fuel shift (-20 points)
    • Your plane needs the end of the runway to take off (-20 points)
    • Your plane can break up due to aerodynamic forces (-20 points)
    • Your plane can melt itself if left at full throttle. (Saftey feature if both pilots fell asleep) (-10 points)
    • Your pilots do not have a clear view out the aircraft-I.E. windows are covered. (-10 points)'
    • Your plane solely relies on alternators on the main engines for power (-10 points)
    • Your plane contains an RTG or nerv engine (passengers don't want radioactive death leaking) (-20 points)
    • Your plane needs all of it's engines to fly (-20 points)

    Base scoring (Subject to change):

    Max speed+(max distance/10)+((Max passengers*5)*1+(number of flight attendants/2))+Bonus points

    Example:

    300+(5000/10)+(32*5)*1+(2/2))=1120

    Leaderboards:

    Light:

    1.  @Calmlamma: 7854.9 points!
    2. @zolotiyeruki: 5555 points!
    3. @DoctorDavinci: 3485.6 points!
    4. @pro100kerbonaught: 2538 points!
    5. @timzim817: 1907 points!
    6. @timzim817: 1867.82 points!
    7. @qzgy: 1,853 points!
    8. @tetragon213: 1586.7 points!
    9. @roboslacker: 1139 points!
    10. @bEAstmode: 830.5 points!
    11. @HamnavoePer: 587 points!
    12. @EpicSpaceTroll139: 300 points!
     

    Medium:

    1. @proteasome: 3190.5 points!
    2. @martiplay28yt: 2434.1 points!
    3. @spacepod9: 2051.7944 points!

    Heavy:

    1. @wanderfound: 1,632 points!
    2. @Physics Student:1239 points!

    Super-heavy:

    1. @notanaimbot: 4305.2 points!
    2. @EpicSpaceTroll139: 3832 points!
    3. @DoctorDavinci: 3451.6 points!
    4. @Tetragon213: 2491 points!
    5. @SaturnianBlue:2116.9 points!
    6. @MustaKotka:1736 points!
    7. @Delay: 1381 points!
    8. @Spacetraindriver:1353 points!
    9. @EpicSpaceTroll139: 1302 points!
    10. @notsodeadjeb:1134 points!

     

     

    Special Mentions

    First entrant: @Spacetraindriver

    Early Jet Airliner lookalikes: @EpicSpaceTroll139

    Concorde Lookalikes:

    Electric planes:

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