Jso Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Crimor said: Currently trying to figure out what's causing a bug in my modlist regarding tweakscale(If I make the part smaller and then duplicate it, the max fuel storage gets reset), and I've made it not happen on non bluedog parts but it still happens on these, anyone had similar issues in the past that I could use to figure out what's causing it faster? The cycle of removing a couple of mods, starting the game, and rescaling a part only to do it again and again is becoming less and less fun :v Compare the final config of the working and non working parts in GameData/ModuleManager.ConfigCache and maybe you can figure out what's different. FYI, we haven't updated our Tweakscale compatibility files in over a year so they are definitely out of date. I'm not sure anyone on the dev team still uses it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimor Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) Tweakscale configs being out of date might be the problem then, which is sad because I love that small alpha fuel tank with inbuilt rcs. Mainly found this happening while trying to track down another bug. Did a quick modlist of only bluedog, tweakscale, and dependencies and it still happens, so yeah it's most likely an out of date tweakscale config. Sadly I have no idea how to update the patch, they look relatively identical to me compared to the ones tweakscale uses for vanilla. Edited May 18, 2021 by Crimor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappystein Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) On 5/18/2021 at 11:54 AM, CollectingSP said: Isn’t that nova? NO But still not something that CobaltWolf is a fan of doing... (sorry this gets covered a lot and I posted on this literally 3 pages back) Saturn C-8 has NEXT to nothing to do with NOVA... it was ONE of the Saturn Concepts for Direct Ascent and quickly voted the LEAST likely! HOWEVER Someone in Congress (not NASA) thought it should be included in NOVA...... AFTER both NOVA and actual Saturn C-8 dev WERE OVER. Saturn C-8 as well as any of the potential NOVA rockets were separately replaced by Saturn MLV. Now to your MLV choices for Direct Ascent are 5x or 6x F-1A Stretched MS-IC tankage first stage (max stretch), MS-IIA 2nd stage tankage (the longest stretch) with S-IVC or the MS-IVB stretch on top. Likely the first stage would have had 2x twin F-1A boosters OR 4x 156" SRMs (likely the Thiokol ones that with further evolution became the Space Shuttle SRM.) It is possible that 4x UA-1207 or UA-1208s could have been used as well. YES There was an Actual S-IVC proposed in Saturn... This is not the ETS S-IVC. It was a single ADVANCED Hydrolox powered stretched S-IVB. Go for RL20 Vac! On 5/18/2021 at 4:19 PM, Crimor said: Tweakscale configs being out of date might be the problem then, which is sad because I love that small alpha fuel tank with inbuilt rcs. Mainly found this happening while trying to track down another bug. Did a quick modlist of only bluedog, tweakscale, and dependencies and it still happens, so yeah it's most likely an out of date tweakscale config. Sadly I have no idea how to update the patch, they look relatively identical to me compared to the ones tweakscale uses for vanilla. Do you have Tweakscale RECAL installed? WIthout it B9PS parts can break with Tweakscale in my experience Warning, KSP REcall not compatable with Smart Parts (sad panda noises!) Edited May 19, 2021 by Pappystein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaintedLion Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) I doubt this is high on your list of priorities right now, but what would you say to the possibility of parts from the TV series For All Mankind, like the Jamestown base, or the three-person LM (LSAM)? Edited May 20, 2021 by TaintedLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberro+ Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Pappystein said: NO But still not something that CobaltWolf is a fan of doing... (sorry this gets covered a lot and I posted on this literally 3 pages back) Saturn C-8 has NEXT to nothing to do with NOVA... it was ONE of the Saturn Concepts for Direct Ascent and quickly voted the LEAST likely! HOWEVER Someone in Congress (not NASA) thought it should be included in NOVA...... AFTER both NOVA and actual Saturn C-8 dev WERE OVER. Saturn C-8 as well as any of the potential NOVA rockets were separately replaced by Saturn MLV. Now to your MLV choices for Direct Ascent are 5x or 6x F-1A Stretched MS-IC tankage first stage (max stretch), MS-IIA 2nd stage tankage (the longest stretch) with S-IVC or the MS-IVB stretch on top. Likely the first stage would have had 2x twin F-1A boosters OR 4x 156" SRMs (likely the Thiokol ones that with further evolution became the Space Shuttle SRM.) It is possible that 4x UA-1207 or UA-1208s could have been used as well. YES There was an Actual S-IVC proposed in Saturn... This is not the ETS S-IVC. It was a single ADVANCED Hydrolox powered stretched S-IVB. Go for RL20 Vac! Do you have Tweakscale RECAL installed? WIthout it B9PS parts can break with Tweakscale in my experience Warning, KSP REcall not compatable with Smart Parts (sad panda noises!) Never going to not enjoy reading through your paragraphs. Keep it up yo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthfulGnome Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 54 minutes ago, TaintedLion said: I doubt this is high on your list of priorities right now, but what would you say to the possibility of parts from the TV series For All Mankind, like the Jamestown base, or the three-person LM (LSAM)? Cobalt has already stated many times that he's not going to do FAM stuff anytime soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimor Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pappystein said: Do you have Tweakscale RECAL installed? WIthout it B9PS parts can break with Tweakscale in my experience Warning, KSP REcall not compatable with Smart Parts (sad panda noises!) Of course, since it's a dependency for tweakscale nowadays, still didn't do anything with BDB. It's likely due to an ongoing compatibility issue between tweakscale/recall and b9ps Edited May 20, 2021 by Crimor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaintedLion Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, TruthfulGnome said: anytime soon So you're saying there's a chance? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthfulGnome Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, TaintedLion said: So you're saying there's a chance? haha no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhelperdude Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 for all mankind is stupid I mean they use a freaking lunar space shuttle and there are wayyy more cooler and realistic concepts, for example from ETS, which I love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthfulGnome Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, Starhelperdude said: for all mankind is stupid I mean they use a freaking lunar space shuttle and there are wayyy more cooler and realistic concepts, for example from ETS, which I love imo you cant really have an alternative reality show and make it 100% realistic and have it be enjoyable to watch, especially keep it running with good income... but yes ETS is amazing, i cant wait to see those parts revamped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor99 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Starhelperdude said: for all mankind is stupid I mean they use a freaking lunar space shuttle and there are wayyy more cooler and realistic concepts, for example from ETS, which I love True, but consider this: you get to bomb the moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhelperdude Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 3 hours ago, editor99 said: True, but consider this: you get to bomb the moon bombing the moon is epic but I don't want the LMs and lunokhods and surveyors to be damaged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 hours ago, editor99 said: True, but consider this: you get to bomb the moon I'm listening now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaintedLion Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Starhelperdude said: I mean they use a freaking lunar space shuttle Well yeah, that's stupid, I just wanted Jamestown and the LSAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor99 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I think a FAM mod would be a great mod on it's own. It doesn't need to be forcefully squished in to BDB. It just doesn't fit the style of BDB. 1 minute ago, TaintedLion said: Well yeah, that's stupid, I just wanted Jamestown and the LSAM. Yeah, only if they had a nuclear powered rocket... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman.Spiff Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: I'm listening now. 1 hour ago, Starhelperdude said: bombing the moon is epic but I don't want the LMs and lunokhods and surveyors to be damaged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhelperdude Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 lol, doesn't have the moon/mun already enough craters? lol, how about a augustus cargo pod-like variant for the apollo CM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceFace545 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, editor99 said: I think a FAM mod would be a great mod on it's own. It doesn't need to be forcefully squished in to BDB. It just doesn't fit the style of BDB. Probably because FAM is fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberro+ Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 BDB Nuke update when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhelperdude Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, alberro+ said: BDB Nuke update when? hehehe titan/atlas ICBMs go brrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derega16 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Talk about alternate history, what about stuff from other, like space time odyssey's Spacebase, maybe not fully reusable Saturn Shuttle as it will be ridiculously hard to make it to work in KSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadJohn Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 hours ago, SpaceFace545 said: Probably because FAM is fake. So it fits in with BDB: fake, just like the Apollo moon landings. (In case anyone's reading on something that doesn't show the emoji, my statement is a joke.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceFace545 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, DeadJohn said: So it fits in with BDB: fake, just like the Apollo moon landings. (In case anyone's reading on something that doesn't show the emoji, my statement is a joke.) Alan Shepard's first spaceflight was simulated with a massive bungie cord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectingSP Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, SpaceFace545 said: Alan Shepard's first spaceflight was simulated with a massive bungie cord. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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