OrbitalManeuvers Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Richmountain112 said: The 2.5m stock heatshield can survive from Neidon but the Kane-11 one can't? Ah, something to compare. Both have almost identical aero properties, but the stock one has 1800 ablator, and the Kane has 800. Could be that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmountain112 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Usually I go for a steep reentry from Interplanetary speeds because if I go shallow then I don't aerocapture. If I remember, both have 800 ablator, plus I used the 5-kerbal command pod. Pointing SAS to Orbital retrograde caused the heat shield to explode first. Surface Retrograde caused the command pod to explode first. Plus the stock heat shield looks ugly on either of the Kane command pods (as well as the Fuji ones) Edited May 13, 2023 by Richmountain112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketBoy1641 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Richmountain112 said: I'm using Stock system + OPM and Planet Cyran. The 2.5m stock heatshield can survive from Neidon but the Kane-11 one can't? The stock 1.25m heatshield was able to survive reentry from Urlum. I considered using a stock heatshield but it looked ugly. 2.5 stock is most likely overengineered compared to the Kane. I haven't looked at the numbers; but it goes back to the quote about physics.... 2 hours ago, OrbitalManeuvers said: Ah, something to compare. Both have almost identical aero properties, but the stock one has 1800 ablator, and the Kane has 800. Could be that? Yes, yes indeed. Game crazy thickness v. Realistic-ish thickness. But hey, you can copy the BDB, rename the file to your liking and then give it the 2k ablation. But you better be honest and adjust weight etc to play fair. 25 minutes ago, Richmountain112 said: Usually I go for a steep reentry from Interplanetary speeds because if I go shallow then I don't aerocapture. If I remember, both have 800 ablator, plus I used the 5-kerbal command pod. Pointing SAS to Orbital retrograde caused the heat shield to explode first. Surface Retrograde caused the command pod to explode first. Plus the stock heat shield looks ugly on either of the Kane command pods (as well as the Fuji ones) Well, their is another thing. Steep Kills b/c of massive G loading. And I don't just mean that it gets the LGMs. G loads can wreck anything. Work on aerocapture, even if it takes a couple passes through things to stay inside. Edited May 13, 2023 by RocketBoy1641 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmountain112 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, RocketBoy1641 said: Well, their is another thing. Steep Kills b/c of massive G loading. And I don't just mean that it gets the LGMs. G loads can wreck anything. Work on aerocapture, even if it takes a couple passes through things to stay inside. I usually play on settings that Kerbals don't pass out due to high G's. And regarding aerocapture, I almost never actually capture for another pass. Instead I usually proceed straight to landing because the G loads but sometimes if my capsule is too heavy or periapsis is too high it will escape Kerbin's SOI. Edited May 13, 2023 by Richmountain112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketBoy1641 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Richmountain112 said: I usually play on settings that Kerbals don't pass out due to high G's. And regarding aerocapture, I almost never actually capture for another pass. Instead I usually proceed straight to landing because the G loads but sometimes if my capsule is too heavy it will escape Kerbin's SOI. Ever use balloots? They can be useful in high atmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmountain112 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, RocketBoy1641 said: Ever use balloots? They can be useful in high atmo No. What are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketBoy1641 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Richmountain112 said: No. What are they? Slight misspell. Ballute https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoAlpha101st Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 IVA doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketBoy1641 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, BravoAlpha101st said: IVA doesn't work. What iva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldForest Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Some MORL Tax Full album: Imgur: The magic of the Internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultim32 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 6 hours ago, BravoAlpha101st said: IVA doesn't work. Is it the LM IVA? That also doesn't work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmountain112 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 40 minutes ago, Ultim32 said: Is it the LM IVA? That also doesn't work for me. The LM Taxi interior view worked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn1234 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 What rocket is intended for Gemini lunar flyby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmountain112 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, Saturn1234 said: What rocket is intended for Gemini lunar flyby? Titan III or something. If you use the stock system, it's probably enough to get a Mun flyby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalswissarmyknife Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Saturn1234 said: What rocket is intended for Gemini lunar flyby? I have heard about Saturn 1/1B with a centaur but there is so many concepts for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoAlpha101st Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Ultim32 said: Is it the LM IVA? That also doesn't work for me. All IVAs don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmountain112 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 57 minutes ago, BravoAlpha101st said: All IVAs don't work. Maybe it's on your end. Because it works perfectly for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappystein Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Saturn1234 said: What rocket is intended for Gemini lunar flyby? Depends on WHAT flyby concept you choose, Yes Saturn C-1 with S-IVA and S-V was one launch choice Titan III with UA-1207(MR) was an option for the Agena kicked version Or Double Transtage Titan III with UA-1205 did't have the umph to do it in one launch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmountain112 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 For the Apollo-Venus mission I initially went for a stretched Saturn IB but that didn't work. Either not enough TWR for initial ascent and falling back into the atmosphere, or not enough fuel in the (stretched) SIVB. Went for a Saturn V first stage with 4 F1 engines, and instead of the wet workshop, I did an Apollo Telescope mount LM to land on Gilly (The SIVB crashed into Eve). Stock System + OPM + Planet Cyran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmountain112 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Also, why does physics warp always destroy my parachutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketBoy1641 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Richmountain112 said: Also, why does physics warp always destroy my parachutes? Most likely shock when exiting warp if they are open....which may be in your settings for various mods/physics that you selected. If they are deploying when you are at warp....ya, bad things happen with warp. Can you give more details about sequence of when it is happening and things like altitude and velocity? Edited May 13, 2023 by RocketBoy1641 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultim32 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 None of the LM IVAs worked for me. All of the Apollo CSM IVAs worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmountain112 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, RocketBoy1641 said: Can you give more details about sequence of when it is happening and things like altitude and velocity? Upper atmosphere (32KM), drogue open. 900 m/s. Command pod flips over with disjointed heat shield. Edited May 13, 2023 by Richmountain112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutabaga22 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 What does "Chrayol" mean? I've noticed this and one of the SOCK recolor mods have it as a variant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz1 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, Rutabaga22 said: What does "Chrayol" mean? I've noticed this and one of the SOCK recolor mods have it as a variant. It's in reference to the Chrayol Design Bureau mod, which has stockalike ISRO rockets: Now as to what Chrayol means in that context, I haven't the foggiest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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