CobaltWolf Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Gonna be a long night... (Sorry, I have a meeting in a bit so no stream) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakenex Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 pls remember to update gallery's link on the OP! Do you want me to remove Saturn IB image? (because the adapter is untextured) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 On 9/26/2016 at 11:41 PM, Drakenex said: pls remember to update gallery's link on the OP! Do you want me to remove Saturn IB image? (because the adapter is untextured) Expand Yes, for the time being. Can you send me the new link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahgineer Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) On 9/26/2016 at 11:04 PM, Cdw2468 said: Great job with this mission, I'll have to try out your setup! What mod did you use for the 2x Solar system and is it for 1.1.2? Expand I just used Sigma dimensions and rescaled the bodies and distances to 2 times. And yes, it technically is 1.1.2 compatible. Edited September 26, 2016 by awsumindyman Posted on mobile. 'nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakenex Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) http://imgur.com/a/G44Rr You can barely notice it, but you are the boss Edited September 26, 2016 by Drakenex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahgineer Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Yo @CobaltWolf, did you read the plaque for the flag from my little Mun jaunt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 On 9/26/2016 at 11:53 PM, awsumindyman said: Yo @CobaltWolf, did you read the plaque for the flag from my little Mun jaunt? Expand I actually didn't, I was trying to figure out what engines you used for the descent stage. They've been on the roadmap for a while now tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pTrevTrevs Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Gemini-Titan uncrewed suborbital test flight. Reveal hidden contents Launch going well, except for a slight issue where the umbilical arms were revealed to have broken away before launch and nearly scraped against the side of the vehicle during the initial moments of launch. Jettison of second stage. The final trajectory spans the entirety of the Atlantic Ocean, from Florida to the coast of Africa. Translation, rotation, and maneuverability with and without RCS was tested during the two or three minutes the craft was in space. Descent over the Azores. I noticed the craft doesn't display an ablator meter, but the manual says that the heatshield is supposed to be integrated with the command pod. Is the manual outdated or does the pod's right click menu just not display ablator for some reason? The craft survived, but if I ever decide to take this thing on a lunar flight I want to make sure it can survive reentry coming home. Descent under parachute. It sure would be cool if someone could find a way to get the capsule to use a two point suspension like the real Gemini. Awaiting recovery. I guess another thing that bugs me is how the capsule naturally wants to sit upright when it should be lying down like I have it in the screenshot. Oh well, I can understand how difficult it would be to get it to look like that and still fly well. Not sure what I'm gonna do next. I guess this puts me up to 1964-65, but I still need to do Mariner 2 and maybe a few satellites (especially if I plan on updating this install to 1.2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahgineer Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 9/26/2016 at 11:56 PM, CobaltWolf said: I actually didn't, I was trying to figure out what engines you used for the descent stage. They've been on the roadmap for a while now tho... Expand Either the Hunter or the Seeker, whichever has the highest Isp/lowest thrust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahgineer Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 @Cdw2468, I was also using CryoEngines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) On 9/27/2016 at 12:53 AM, pTrevTrevs said: Gemini-Titan uncrewed suborbital test flight. Reveal hidden contents Launch going well, except for a slight issue where the umbilical arms were revealed to have broken away before launch and nearly scraped against the side of the vehicle during the initial moments of launch. Jettison of second stage. The final trajectory spans the entirety of the Atlantic Ocean, from Florida to the coast of Africa. Translation, rotation, and maneuverability with and without RCS was tested during the two or three minutes the craft was in space. Descent over the Azores. I noticed the craft doesn't display an ablator meter, but the manual says that the heatshield is supposed to be integrated with the command pod. Is the manual outdated or does the pod's right click menu just not display ablator for some reason? The craft survived, but if I ever decide to take this thing on a lunar flight I want to make sure it can survive reentry coming home. Descent under parachute. It sure would be cool if someone could find a way to get the capsule to use a two point suspension like the real Gemini. Awaiting recovery. I guess another thing that bugs me is how the capsule naturally wants to sit upright when it should be lying down like I have it in the screenshot. Oh well, I can understand how difficult it would be to get it to look like that and still fly well. Not sure what I'm gonna do next. I guess this puts me up to 1964-65, but I still need to do Mariner 2 and maybe a few satellites (especially if I plan on updating this install to 1.2) Expand Hrmm, I know @Jso fiddled with Mercury to make it float correctly. I don't know if he did it for the Gemini. Buoyancy can be offset and controlled after 1.0.5. The heatshield was separated in the last release for a number of reasons, the manual just needs to be updated... helping @DiscoSlelge update that will be a chore after this update haha. On 9/27/2016 at 1:02 AM, awsumindyman said: Either the Hunter or the Seeker, whichever has the highest Isp/lowest thrust. Expand Hunter. I've never seen anyone use either of them, I usually forget they're in the mod. They'll be more useful once Atlas-Vega is available, since the Seeker is supposed to be the optional 3rd stage. @Drakenex I've updated the OP link. Prolly should leave out the Saturn 1B for now, but there are plenty of other LVs that you can build which aren't covered. Edited September 27, 2016 by CobaltWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon304 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 So Ive been reading, is this mod best used with CryoEngines? Because Ive not been doing that. I should probably do that... right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakenex Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 1:24 AM, CobaltWolf said: @Drakenex I've updated the OP link. Prolly should leave out the Saturn 1B for now, but there are plenty of other LVs that you can build which aren't covered. Expand Oh yes, I'll have some quality free time soon (Fiuuu at last!) so I'll be able to catch up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 1:25 AM, Avalon304 said: So Ive been reading, is this mod best used with CryoEngines? Because Ive not been doing that. I should probably do that... right? Expand Yes. It's near impossible to balance Saturn (with the big cryo upper stages) with stock fuel tank ratios. Cryogenic tanks are just so much lighter (due to the much less dense fuel), nevermind how much mass we have to add for structure. NOTICE So, right now - the Saturn 1B and Saturn V have too much deltaV with normal fuel/mass/volume ratios. However, their TWR is too low - because they're overfueled. What we're probably going to do, is reduce the default fuel amounts in the tanks, while leaving the max fuel amounts alone. That way, when you just try and build a Saturn, it flies fine, but then if you want, you can increase the fuel loading. Deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahgineer Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 @CobaltWolf, deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon304 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 1:41 AM, CobaltWolf said: NOTICE So, right now - the Saturn 1B and Saturn V have too much deltaV with normal fuel/mass/volume ratios. However, their TWR is too low - because they're overfueled. What we're probably going to do, is reduce the default fuel amounts in the tanks, while leaving the max fuel amounts alone. That way, when you just try and build a Saturn, it flies fine, but then if you want, you can increase the fuel loading. Deal? Expand So... what youre saying is strap some SRBs to that sucker and fill the tanks to the brim? Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 1:51 AM, Avalon304 said: So... what youre saying is strap some SRBs to that sucker and fill the tanks to the brim? Got it. Expand Sure, go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) On 9/27/2016 at 1:24 AM, CobaltWolf said: Hrmm, I know @Jso fiddled with Mercury to make it float correctly. I don't know if he did it for the Gemini. Buoyancy can be offset and controlled after 1.0.5. The heatshield was separated in the last release for a number of reasons, the manual just needs to be updated... helping @DiscoSlelge update that will be a chore after this update haha. Hunter. I've never seen anyone use either of them, I usually forget they're in the mod. They'll be more useful once Atlas-Vega is available, since the Seeker is supposed to be the optional 3rd stage. Expand The gemini in the current dev edition certainly should lay down properly... It was the last time I tried. @pTrevTrevs, which download were you using? It might have been a bit out of date/in between tweaks. As for the Hunter/Seeker, I have used both in various designs, but they never did anything super awesome-screenshot-like though. I will make sure to get some decent shots the next time they fly (They go really well with @Angel-125's interstage adaptors, at least visually.) It was some mid tech franken-rocket, though, if I recall... something like Thor first stage, redstone second, hunter upper. But it was cheap and worked well, sooooo... Edited September 27, 2016 by komodo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 btw, some of the uprated Saturn V proposals used interim 156inch SRBs... maybe I'll have to make 2.5m SRBs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickledTripod Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) On 9/27/2016 at 1:51 AM, Avalon304 said: So... what youre saying is strap some SRBs to that sucker and fill the tanks to the brim? Got it. Expand Or just use Cryogenic Engines. That mod adds so much to the game for how small it is and the engines are gorgeous, there's no reason not to. Edited September 27, 2016 by PickledTripod typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 2:10 AM, PickledTripod said: Or just use Cryogenic Engines. That mod adds so much to the game for how small it is and the engines a gorgeous, there's no reason not to. Expand b-bu-but muh 1.2 prerelease! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickledTripod Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 2:02 AM, CobaltWolf said: btw, some of the uprated Saturn V proposals used interim 156inch SRBs... maybe I'll have to make 2.5m SRBs? Expand If you do that I really won't have any use for SpaceY anymore. Good riddance honestly, NecroBone's models and textures are subpar compared to what other modders have made in the last year and he doesn't seems to be willing to rework them. On 9/27/2016 at 2:12 AM, CobaltWolf said: b-bu-but muh 1.2 prerelease! Expand Not until the mods I use all work with it, including all of Nertea's stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 1:51 AM, Avalon304 said: So... what youre saying is strap some SRBs to that sucker and fill the tanks to the brim? Got it. Expand Easy there, Jeb. Lemme get in the capsule before you light the fuse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdw2468 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 2:23 AM, MaverickSawyer said: Easy there, Jeb. Lemme get in the capsule before you light the fuse! Expand Why not both at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legoclone09 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 On 9/27/2016 at 2:02 AM, CobaltWolf said: btw, some of the uprated Saturn V proposals used interim 156inch SRBs... maybe I'll have to make 2.5m SRBs? Expand Or I can try.searching hard drive for Blender intensifies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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