StupidAndy Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 well what about when they get back to Kerbin? are they going to aerobrake? wait...what happened to the bomber guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geschosskopf Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, DarkOwl57 said: I'd expect it would be something along the lines of getting a rhino into a bathtub levels of hard No job is hard if you have the right tools Spoiler Edited November 30, 2016 by Geschosskopf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkOwl57 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Geschosskopf said: No job is hard if you have the right tools Spoiler I didn't see the picture for a second and then it showed up and I spit out my water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 minute ago, DarkOwl57 said: I didn't see the picture for a second and then it showed up and I spit out my water Cleanup in aisle 7... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkOwl57 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Literally; I'm at the back of the classroom in a study period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geschosskopf Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, DarkOwl57 said: Literally; I'm at the back of the classroom in a study period Studying hard, I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkOwl57 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Geschosskopf said: Studying hard, I see I try 1 minute ago, Geschosskopf said: Studying hard, I see Most of it's due on monday anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I love the top-down view of Intrepid ploughing into the atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Just Jim said: Hmmm, so I'm curious, did the crew seem to overheat at all, or is this purely a visual effect? And I'm glad you kept it, it's too good to waste... Oh, it's real all right. Bill did do a "simulation" pass at 45km, which went pretty well until the bridge crew overheated and poofed, one by one. It was sickening. 1 hour ago, adsii1970 said: Definitely a very hot episode! I love the visual effects... how hard was it aero-braking something that big? Really not too hard! Like I said I just had Kenlie set prograde, and let the ship coast through. When it got back above 50km, I warped it ahead to just before atmospheric entry. It all went really smoothly until the last pass--you'll see images from that one in the next update Edited November 30, 2016 by Kuzzter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 The excess hippo image has been put back inside a spoiler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Kuzzter said: Oh, it's real all right. Bill did do a "simulation" pass at 45km, which went pretty well until the bridge crew overheated and poofed, one by one. It was sickening. Oh, ouch! I can imagine! I won't lie, I totally cheated in my last chapter and turned off the overheating so I didn't poof anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkOwl57 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 26 minutes ago, Just Jim said: Oh, ouch! I can imagine! I won't lie, I totally cheated in my last chapter and turned off the overheating so I didn't poof anyone. #JustJimExposed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 And the Bob and Tedus show is back! So, some fun details about the aerobrake, not all of which I translated to the comic. After about 15 nice passes holding prograde through 48km, the apoapsis had dropped from 3100km to 1200km. I wanted 800km, and did not want to go through a bunch more passes to get there. Deciding that the velocity had dropped enough to risk it, I did a small burn at top of orbit to lower periapsis to 47,400m. Everything went fine on atmospheric entry--no explosions or roasted kerbals--but the altitude was low enough for the many wing elements that make up Intrepid's hull to start lifting. And if you thought that when I designed the ship I made sure about things like placing COM ahead of COL... well, you'd be very wrong. It's not supposed to fly! And it doesn't! The ship flipped through the upper atmosphere pretty much as you see it in the first page of this update: two full revolutions and out. The apoapsis had dropped right to where I wanted it--no damage either, woo hoo! So, we're flying in a nice formation now but in the next update the two craft will separate: Intrepid thrusting prograde to stabilize her orbit, Skimmeroo dropping periapsis to enter Laythe atmosphere and touch down somewhere in the Sagen Sea. It's going to be spectacular! Stay tuned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I do enjoy the Bob and Tedus banter. They'd better not need that kerbopoly board. Somehow, I don't believe they are going to be thinking about anything quite so relaxing soon enough. I was wondering how much more braking you'd get if Intrepid were broadside to the airflow. I guess you know, now. I have to tell you that you've got guts are a steely eyed missile kerb! I don't think I would have tried aerobraking this ship. Bob and Tedus are a lot of fun, but.... Kerbulans. Happy Concerned Nervous Anxious Startled Scared Frightened Alarmed Terrified landings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 26 minutes ago, Kuzzter said: Stay tuned! All channels clear - awaiting incoming communications, Captin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAL 9000 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Starhawk said: I do enjoy the Bob and Tedus banter. They'd better not need that kerbopoly board. Somehow, I don't believe they are going to be thinking about anything quite so relaxing soon enough. I was wondering how much more braking you'd get if Intrepid were broadside to the airflow. I guess you know, now. I have to tell you that you've got guts are a steely eyed missile kerb! I don't think I would have tried aerobraking this ship. Bob and Tedus are a lot of fun, but.... Kerbulans. Happy Concerned Nervous Anxious Startled Scared Frightened Alarmed Terrified landings! Strutty-eyed booster kerb! Kerbals don't know about missiles (they are pacifist). 56 minutes ago, KSK said: All channels clear - awaiting incoming communications, Captin! Shirley you mean Admiral! Kuzzter has earned that honor! Pun intended. Edited December 1, 2016 by KAL 9000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, KAL 9000 said: Shirley you mean Admiral! Kuzzter has earned that honor! Indubitably - but aboard his or her own ship, an Admiral is still the Captin. I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAL 9000 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 minute ago, KSK said: Indubitably - but aboard his or her own ship, an Admiral is still the Captin. I think. *Checks TVTropes* Nope, can't find anything about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, KAL 9000 said: Shirley you mean Admiral! Kuzzter has earned that honor! Well, that is a cavalry hat I'm wearing, so perhaps if I did have a rank (I don't) it would be from the ground/air tradition...rather than clutter the thread with three pages of discussion on the subject and perhaps a new poll thread, let's just say that such a Kerbfleet rank (which I still don't have) would be properly spelled 'Genrill' -- noting that any similarity to certain homonymic human cavalry officers, living or dead, is purely coincidental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Ah well. I'm sure Kuzzter or Geschosskopf will set us straight. My military etiquette is most likely a bit jumbled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, KAL 9000 said: *Checks TVTropes* Nope, can't find anything about that. According to naval tradition, being a captain of a boat is separate than holding the rank of captain. For example, John F. Kennedy and others held the rank of Lieutenant during WWII but were called "Captain" because they were in command of a vessel (in Kennedy's case, PT-109). A person that has command of their own boat, be it a yacht or a barge tug, would also be referred to as "captain" based on their position of authority. The only time that a captain of a boat would be referred to anything other than "captain" is if their rank actually exceeds the actual rank of "captain." I'll explain this better below... An admiral would remain in rank an admiral, and in their rank, could be considered a captain of a vessel, but under rare circumstances. Think of Fleet Admiral Bill "Bull" Halsey from WWII, he was in command of a task force centered on the U.S.S. Enterprise (CV-6). Even though at times he did issue orders that affected the Enterprise directly, he was NEVER it's captain because he commanded the task force, not the individual vessels within the task force. The Enterprise had her own captain - a subordinate to the admiral. Even if the captain were killed, the right of command would pass on down to the executive officer, and so forth. Now there are provisions in the U.S Naval and British Royal Navy that allow for an admiral to assume command of a specific vessel. When this is done, the admiral is never referred to as "Captain" but will retain the title of the higher rank that he holds, "Admiral." This was where Star Trek TMP got it wrong. Admiral Kirk was downgraded in rank and placed back in command of the Enterprise and Captain Decker remained on as executive officer. In reality, what should have happened, Kirk would simply been given operational command, kept the rank of Admiral (and referred to as Admiral), and Decker remain a captain, but still executive officer... I hope this didn't derail the thread or cause any more confusion... Edited December 1, 2016 by adsii1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Nope - very informative and I stand corrected. Admiral (or Genrill ) @Kuzzter it is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Kerman Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 18 hours ago, Kuzzter said: Oh, it's real all right. Bill did do a "simulation" pass at 45km, which went pretty well until the bridge crew overheated and poofed, one by one. It was sickening. Really not too hard! Like I said I just had Kenlie set prograde, and let the ship coast through. When it got back above 50km, I warped it ahead to just before atmospheric entry. It all went really smoothly until the last pass--you'll see images from that one in the next update I would think that the crew would be safe since they're inside of the cargo bay- or was it open at the time so you could take the screenshots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, Angel-125 said: I would think that the crew would be safe since they're inside of the cargo bay- or was it open at the time so you could take the screenshots? Nope, it was closed! One nice thing about the cargo-bay-as-bridge-playset, you can always get the IVA view no matter what I just use the Camera Focus mod to center my view where I want it. For shots from front of the bridge I focus on the turbolift, for shots looking forward I focus on Dilsby's console or on the viewscreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Kerman Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Kuzzter said: Nope, it was closed! One nice thing about the cargo-bay-as-bridge-playset, you can always get the IVA view no matter what I just use the Camera Focus mod to center my view where I want it. For shots from front of the bridge I focus on the turbolift, for shots looking forward I focus on Dilsby's console or on the viewscreen Innnnnteresting.... *squirrel paws* Once I finish the D2 Clydesdale, I'm thinking about that inline version you suggested. It makes me wonder if I could create a sound stage version (Description: The Jool landing was faked) along with a normal version. That, and an Emergency Mulitpurpose Holokerb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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