[1.6.x-1.7.x] Training Kerbalnauts (Training Laboratory + Field Training Facility)

Efour · October 12, 2016

This mod is adopted and continued by zer0Kerbal.

This mod provides Training system to your kerbalnauts.
(KPBS Supported)

If you want to train your kerbal immediately, you can use these mods.
(Dependency : Module Manager - http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/50533-12-module-manager-271-october-8th-better-late-than-never/)

[1.6.x] Training Laboratory
http://spacedock.info/mod/971/Training Laboratory

This mod provides Training method with consuming Science points.
Paying 20 sci, your kerbal can get 1 exp. Since leveling up method is very limited, you have to pay science point once enough to advance level.

If your Training Lab is in orbit, Payment will be reduced to half.
If your Lab is on other planet, Payment will be reduced to 1/4.

You can tweak values with editing .cfg. If you want, you can add this module to other crewed part. It can support up to 8 kerbalnauts.

Leveling up 'Immediately' is not realistic? Do you think Training needs time consuming? This mod will be answer for you.

[1.6.x] Field Training Facility
http://spacedock.info/mod/978/Field Training Facility

This mod is similar with Training Laboratory, But one thing is different. It consumes Time and Electric Charge.

If you want level 5 kerbalnaut from level 0, You need to train your kerbal 1 year. Becoming level 1 will only need to wait 13 days, But as you know, high level needs more training.

But, If you place your facility into orbit, It will be 4 times faster.
If you place it on other planet, 6 times faster.

You can tweak params with .cfg. Not so complex.

It consumes 4 EC/sec per kerbal. If you train 2 kerbals, It will drain 8 EC/sec. You will need powerful energy sources.

Now then, someone like me will want to use both.
Then, just install both of them. Result is shown below.

Payment of science point(TL) will be reduced with training experiences(FTF).

For example -
Just using TL, Level 4 -> Level 5 consumes 640p of Science point.
But Level 4(50% with FTF) -> Level 5 consumes just 320p of science point.
If 90% with FTF? Just pay 64p of science point or wait some more days. you can get level 5 kerbalnaut.

More training means less sci point needed, linearly.

These two mod can co-work, It's because I created this thread. If you want one thing, you can install just one mod. If you want co-work of them, you can install both.

Edited October 13, 2019 by Efour
new thread created

maculator · October 13, 2016

Ah finally the two together, nice.

I have on suggestion:

Can you give bonuses depending on wich bodies orbit/surface the lab is? not just kerbin, orbit, other planet? So If i bring my kerbals for a fieldtrip to duna they level quicker?

Efour · October 13, 2016

45 minutes ago, maculator said:

Ah finally the two together, nice.

I have on suggestion:

Can you give bonuses depending on wich bodies orbit/surface the lab is? not just kerbin, orbit, other planet? So If i bring my kerbals for a fieldtrip to duna they level quicker?

Actually, I can do and I thought It would be needed someday. But that function makes .cfg more complex and more complex usages. That is not good for me. And actually that code will not be short and I have little hours for making mod nowadays.

I will make that function(bonuses about celestial bodies) someday but I can't say when it rolls out. Even if I make it, I will set all to 1 at default cfg. Anyone who wants set bonuses about planets can edit cfg, Someday in future.

maculator · October 13, 2016

@Efour okay.

I think the "stock" lab has that kind of function for transform multiplier, you could just make use of it.

Im no coder so I absolutly have no idea what I'm assuming here^^, but the stock lab scales the transformation bonus depending on the body it is orbiting I think.

cy-one · October 19, 2016

Do I understand the combination of both mods correctly, that:

- if I do nothing, they train normally like in the lab
- but If I don't want to wait, I can take a shortcut (by paying research points) to "skip" the remaining time?

Efour · October 22, 2016

On 2016. 10. 20. at 7:08 AM, cy-one said:

Do I understand the combination of both mods correctly, that:

- if I do nothing, they train normally like in the lab
- but If I don't want to wait, I can take a shortcut (by paying research points) to "skip" the remaining time?

Sorry for late response.

I can't understand 'like in the lab' exactly, but if you mean my FTF mod's training feature(consuming EC and time), You are correct.

Or, We can think 'skipping fee' is reduced with time.

cy-one · October 22, 2016

Yes, with "like in the lab", i meant how your mod enables "training by time" in the lab... Which can be shortened or skipped by "training by money" if both mods are installed.

dtoxic · October 22, 2016

how can i increse the time needed to train kerbals from 1 year to 3 years? is the number in the cfg represented in sec? should i user Real world seconds or Kerbal? thx awesome mods

Efour · October 23, 2016

11 hours ago, dtoxic said:

how can i increse the time needed to train kerbals from 1 year to 3 years? is the number in the cfg represented in sec? should i user Real world seconds or Kerbal? thx awesome mods

Kerbal sec is same with real sec. And the number in the cfg is represented in sec, that number means 1 kerbal year. (9201600s = 60sec * 60min * 6hour * 426days)

So if you want to set 3 years to train 0-lvl kerbal to 5-lvl, just set 27604800.

JadeOfMaar · May 30, 2017

Sorry to necro. I think this mod could do with a little limelight. It's fascinating. It'd be good for folks like me who can't be bothered to send kerbals out of SOI just to become able to hold a wrench.

Edited May 30, 2017 by JadeOfMaar

TheRagingIrishman · May 31, 2017

Wow @JadeOfMaar I somehow never saw this mod so thanks for the necro. @Efour are you planning on updating this to 1.3?

SRiley77 · June 26, 2017

Sorry for a partial necro..

It would be nice if this could get a pass and review for 1.3. I certainly do like the idea of such a training operation.

Both of these cause 1.3 to crash. I've had this happen in a very heavily modded install, and in a fresh install (Module Manager was the only addition).

TheRagingIrishman · June 26, 2017

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bydn0q5r3yik3h/FieldTrainingFacility.dll?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/32s4aku9g52w2rl/TrainingLab.dll?dl=0

@SRiley77 recompiled for 1.3, no changes to source code, same licence as original. Download the 1.2.2 version and replace the .dll file.

Dux Aquila · June 26, 2017

@TheRagingIrishman Thank you very much!!!!

Edited June 26, 2017 by Dux Aquila
text edition

TheRagingIrishman · June 26, 2017

2 minutes ago, Dux Aquila said:

@TheRagingIrishman Thank you very much!!!!

I didn't test either, just recompiled so if you find any bugs lmk

SRiley77 · June 26, 2017

@TheRagingIrishman

Your patch has worked on my end of things.. Thanks a bunch!!

Efour · October 30, 2018

Sorry for very late update.

I'm busy awhile, so I almost forgot these mods. I can maintain this mod with recompile, but I don't have enough time to improve this.

This mod uses MIT license. If you want, you can fix/update/modify/improve these mod. Sources are included in .zip file.

Gordon Dry · October 30, 2018

I suggest to add

:FOR[FieldTrainingFacility]

to the GameData\FieldTrainingFacility\FTFtoLabMM.cfg

and

:FOR[TrainingLab]

to the GameData\TrainingLab\TrainingLaborlatoryMM.cfg

This is to make it possible to add patches for other parts using :AFTER

Edit: btw I just see the typo in the filename
GameData\TrainingLab\TrainingLaborlatoryMM.cfg

Edited October 30, 2018 by Gordon Dry

Foxxonius Augustus · October 31, 2018

This is perhaps the best case of thread necromancy for good I have ever seen... thank you @JadeOfMaar and thank you @Efour for a great mod! Now if only we could ~~bribe~~ commission @CobaltWolf to make a custom part or two for this!

Gordon Dry · October 31, 2018

A patch to start with.

Fiddle as you want.

// add/edit the numbers below with FINAL
@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]]:NEEDS[FieldTrainingFacility,!TrainingLab]:FINAL
{
	@MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]:HAS[~TimeFactor[]]
	{
		// TimeFactor = time to level 0 kerbal becoming level 5 kerbal (sec) (default = 1 year)
		TimeFactor = 1 // Kerbal year
		@TimeFactor *= 426 // Kerbal days per Kerbal year
		@TimeFactor *= 6 // Hours per Kerbal day
		@TimeFactor *= 3600 // Seconds per Kerbal hour
	}
	@MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]:HAS[~ECFactor[]]
	{
		// ECFactor = Electric Charge consuming (per kerbal)
		ECFactor = 4
	}
	@MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]:HAS[~SpaceFactor[]]
	{
		// SpaceFactor = multiplyer of time efficiency at space
		SpaceFactor = 4
	}
	@MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]:HAS[~LandedFactor[]]
	{
		// LandedFactor = multiplyer of time efficiency at landed on other planet
		// ex : training on orbit, level 0 kerbal -> level 5 kerbal after 1/4 year.
		LandedFactor = 6
	}
}

@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[TrainingLabModule]]:NEEDS[TrainingLab,!FieldTrainingFacility]:FINAL
{
	@MODULE[TrainingLabModule]:HAS[~TimeFactor[]]
	{
		// Science Cost = TrainingFactor * exp needed * conditions(inSpace, Landed on other planet)
		// example : landed on minmus, level 4->5 : 20 * 32 * 0.25 = 160
		TimeFactor = 1 // Kerbal year
		@TimeFactor *= 426 // Kerbal days per Kerbal year
		@TimeFactor *= 6 // Hours per Kerbal day
		@TimeFactor *= 3600 // Seconds per Kerbal hour
	}
	@MODULE[TrainingLabModule]:HAS[~TrainFactor[]]
	{
		TrainFactor = 20
	}
	@MODULE[TrainingLabModule]:HAS[~inSpace[]]
	{
		inSpace = 0.5
	}
	@MODULE[TrainingLabModule]:HAS[~Landed[]]
	{
		Landed = 0.25
	}
}

// Tinker with stock part which is patched by default
@PART[Large_Crewed_Lab]:HAS[!MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]]:NEEDS[FieldTrainingFacility,!TrainingLab]:AFTER[FieldTrainingFacility]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = FieldTrainingFacilityModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		@ECFactor = 2 // max 2 crew
		// SpaceFactor = 4
		// LandedFactor = 6
	}
}

@PART[Large_Crewed_Lab]:HAS[!MODULE[TrainingLabModule]]:NEEDS[TrainingLab,!FieldTrainingFacility]:AFTER[TrainingLab]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = TrainingLabModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		// TrainFactor = 20
		// inSpace = 0.5
		// Landed = 0.25
	}
}


// Tinker with KKAOSS_Science_g of PlanetaryBaseInc which is patched by default
@PART[KKAOSS_Science_g]:HAS[!MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]]:NEEDS[PlanetaryBaseInc,FieldTrainingFacility,!TrainingLab]:AFTER[FieldTrainingFacility]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = FieldTrainingFacilityModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		@ECFactor = 2 // max 2 crew
		// SpaceFactor = 4
		// LandedFactor = 6
	}
}

@PART[KKAOSS_Science_g]:HAS[!MODULE[TrainingLabModule]]:NEEDS[PlanetaryBaseInc,TrainingLab,!FieldTrainingFacility]:AFTER[TrainingLab]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = TrainingLabModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		// TrainFactor = 20
		// inSpace = 0.5
		// Landed = 0.25
	}
}


// add parts' compatibility

// TokamakIndustries
@PART[centrifugeSmall]:HAS[!MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]]:NEEDS[TokamakIndustries,FieldTrainingFacility,!TrainingLab]:AFTER[FieldTrainingFacility]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = FieldTrainingFacilityModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		ECFactor = 1 // max 4 crew
		// SpaceFactor = 4
		// LandedFactor = 6
	}
}

@PART[centrifugeSmall]:HAS[!MODULE[TrainingLabModule]]:NEEDS[TokamakIndustries,TrainingLab,!FieldTrainingFacility]:AFTER[TrainingLab]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = TrainingLabModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		// TrainFactor = 20
		// inSpace = 0.5
		// Landed = 0.25
	}
}

// StationPartsExpansionRedux
@PART[sspx-expandable-centrifuge-375-2]:HAS[!MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]]:NEEDS[StationPartsExpansionRedux,FieldTrainingFacility,!TrainingLab]:AFTER[FieldTrainingFacility]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = FieldTrainingFacilityModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		ECFactor = 0.4 // max 10 crew
		// SpaceFactor = 4
		// LandedFactor = 6
	}
}

@PART[sspx-expandable-centrifuge-375-2]:HAS[!MODULE[TrainingLabModule]]:NEEDS[StationPartsExpansionRedux,TrainingLab,!FieldTrainingFacility]:AFTER[TrainingLab]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = TrainingLabModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		// TrainFactor = 20
		// inSpace = 0.5
		// Landed = 0.25
	}
}

// Kerbalism
@PART[kerbalism-gravityring]:HAS[!MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]]:NEEDS[Kerbalism,ProfileDefault,FieldTrainingFacility,!TrainingLab]:AFTER[FieldTrainingFacility]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = FieldTrainingFacilityModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		ECFactor = 0.66666667 // max 6 crew
		// SpaceFactor = 4
		// LandedFactor = 6
	}
}

@PART[kerbalism-gravityring]:HAS[!MODULE[TrainingLabModule]]:NEEDS[Kerbalism,ProfileDefault,TrainingLab,!FieldTrainingFacility]:AFTER[TrainingLab]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = TrainingLabModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		// TrainFactor = 20
		// inSpace = 0.5
		// Landed = 0.25
	}
}

// Bluedog DB MOL Orbital Habitation Segment 
@PART[bluedog_MOL_Hab]:HAS[!MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]]:NEEDS[Bluedog_DB,FieldTrainingFacility,!TrainingLab]:AFTER[FieldTrainingFacility]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = FieldTrainingFacilityModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		ECFactor = 1.33333333 // max 3 crew
		// SpaceFactor = 4
		// LandedFactor = 6
	}
}

@PART[bluedog_MOL_Hab]:HAS[!MODULE[TrainingLabModule]]:NEEDS[Bluedog_DB,TrainingLab,!FieldTrainingFacility]:AFTER[TrainingLab]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = TrainingLabModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		// TrainFactor = 20
		// inSpace = 0.5
		// Landed = 0.25
	}
}

// Bluedog DB Skylab
@PART[bluedog_Skylab_OWS]:HAS[!MODULE[FieldTrainingFacilityModule]]:NEEDS[Bluedog_DB,FieldTrainingFacility,!TrainingLab]:AFTER[FieldTrainingFacility]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = FieldTrainingFacilityModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		ECFactor = 0.66666667 // max 6 crew
		// SpaceFactor = 4
		// LandedFactor = 6
	}
}

@PART[bluedog_Skylab_OWS]:HAS[!MODULE[TrainingLabModule]]:NEEDS[Bluedog_DB,TrainingLab,!FieldTrainingFacility]:AFTER[TrainingLab]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = TrainingLabModule
		// TimeFactor = 9201600
		// TrainFactor = 20
		// inSpace = 0.5
		// Landed = 0.25
	}
}

JadeOfMaar · October 31, 2018

@Foxxonius Augustus There's plenty room for this in SSPXr. Won't you agree?

Gordon Dry · October 31, 2018

I would like to see the source code.

btw perhaps™ this mod creates issues with Kerbalism:
https://github.com/steamp0rt/Kerbalism/issues/271

DeltaDizzy · October 31, 2018

15 hours ago, Gordon Dry said:

I would like to see the source code.

btw perhaps™ this mod creates issues with Kerbalism:
https://github.com/steamp0rt/Kerbalism/issues/271

On 10/30/2018 at 10:08 AM, Efour said:

Sorry for very late update.

I'm busy awhile, so I almost forgot these mods. I can maintain this mod with recompile, but I don't have enough time to improve this.

This mod uses MIT license. If you want, you can fix/update/modify/improve these mod. Sources are included in .zip file.

Norcalplanner · October 31, 2018

I like this idea. Similar to Kerbal RnD or KCT, it gives you a reason to keep collecting science and forces you to choose between unlocking the next node, and doing something else (leveling up Kerbals in this case) which helps your space program in a different way.

linuxgurugamer · October 31, 2018

This is a fascinating mod. I like it a lot. I would consider adopting it, but feel I could not do it justice. I would however be willing to curate it as a community supported release if people were intrested

[1.6.x-1.7.x] Training Kerbalnauts (Training Laboratory + Field Training Facility)

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