Cuky Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 2 minutes ago, NFUN said: Unplanned? Did they have any expectation it wouldn't explode? In broadcast they said there was no plans to recover any hardware from starship ahter it tipped over and exploded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpaget Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Expectation maybe not, but certainly hope. The ladies said that the landing angle was changed from the flight 4 to try and make it gentler and that they were hoping to recover as much data as possible from cameras and heat shield. After explosion they said they would not be collecting any more data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 it looked to still be floating on the surface when the camera cut out. the explosion was probibly caused by the rapid cooling of the nozzels from the sea water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Landed! Then the buoy camera caught it blowing up. Still incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codraroll Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Shpaget said: Landed, but RUD. RSD in this case. The ship isn't built to survive a water landing (why would it be?), so of course it was wrecked upon landing. And they needed to sink the thing too, because they had no intention or way to recover it, and it's illegal to create floating obstacles to shipping (even in the middle of nowhere). So I guess the contact between the hot engines/skirt and the cold seawater caused the first explosion, and that the FTS was activated afterwards to blow the tanks open. The fact they had a buoy right outside the blast radius suggests it landed exactly on target too. Edited October 13 by Codraroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 i suspect it wouldnt do that on a tower catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 (edited) The shot of Starhopper in the same frame as the caught Superheavy in NSF's normal Starbase stream is very, "Son, I am proud." Spoiler https://postimg.cc/hzBSshGQ Edited October 13 by AckSed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Landed on target near buoy cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 That flight was so smooth, I'm now confident that flight 6 will be later this year. The biggest problem was the flaps are still burning through, but it was better than last time. So I guess we'll have to see if that delays the launch into next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Just now, Spaceception said: That flight was so smooth, I'm now confident that flight 6 will be later this year. The biggest problem was the flaps are still burning through, but it was better than last time. So I guess we'll have to see if that delays the launch into next year. you could see parts of something coming off of the flaps during the earlier parts of reentry. i assume this was the ablative coating they had under the tiles. also while the flaps did get pretty toasty, i didn't see them turn to liquid, and eventually the glow started to dim. so i think its an improvement. with the new leeward flaps and the coating i think they might have this figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 In replays I can see where the part of the chine is breaking apart during booster landing burn…so that damage wasn't from hitting the tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 hour ago, Codraroll said: SpaceX: "So, here's our proposal for a reusable spacecraft: We send the rocket up the ordinary way, decouple the first stage right before it runs out of fuel, use some of the remaining fuel to boost the empty stage back towards the launch site, put some aerobraking equipment on it, use the last bit of fuel to cancel its velocity right above the launch mount, and catch it in mid-air using a pair of giant robot arms attached to the launch tower." Industry: "Oh come on, that's ridiculous." *The plan works* SpaceX: "Umm, yes, you are right. It is ridiculous. Look at this footage, it's absolutely bonkers. Unmentionables-to-the-wall crazy. It evidently works, though!" If your stupid plan works then it wasn't stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 7 minutes ago, Brotoro said: In replays I can see where the part of the chine is breaking apart during booster landing burn…so that damage wasn't from hitting the tower. And they can inspect the vehicle, which is huge. The first recovered F9 booster informed all the booster decisions going forward. 2 minutes ago, TheSaint said: If your stupid plan works then it wasn't stupid. Out of reactions. +1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalswissarmyknife Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 I have zero words for what I just saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 minute ago, Royalswissarmyknife said: I have zero words for what I just saw. Oh I had plenty - and my wife reminded me that my kids are still children and maybe some DIFFERENT words might be in order... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.50calBMG Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Well, I guess a certain someone can drop the argument that the engines aren't reliable enough. Not a single engine out on any of the burns. That out of the way, I didn't expect them to get the landing on the first try, but I couldn't be happier I was wrong. What and incredible thing to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerben Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 The top fins on starship took reentry damage. Good thing they are steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 (edited) 46 minutes ago, TheSaint said: If your stupid plan works then it wasn't stupid. The corollary is: If your stupid plan didn't work (spin-separation of stages?) then it was, in fact, stupid. Edited October 13 by StrandedonEarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Never did I think I would hear the words "Mechazilla has caught the booster". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikegarrison Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Well, after waking up this morning checking the news, that was pretty spectacular. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 20 minutes ago, tater said: mechazilla doing the moon walk was pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 22 minutes ago, tater said: I can watch that second video all day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 7 minutes ago, StrandedonEarth said: I can watch that second video all day... The precision is astounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerben Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 It looks like they had plenty of extra fuel, albeit the mission was unloaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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