Pthigrivi Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 12 hours ago, tater said: A small SS stretch makes lunar surface round trips a thing from LEO. Im guessing they could set up the refuel depot at a higher orbit too, or even have a refuel location in Lunar orbit. Once you've got big mobile fuel tanks there are a lot of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Pthigrivi said: Im guessing they could set up the refuel depot at a higher orbit too, or even have a refuel location in Lunar orbit. Once you've got big mobile fuel tanks there are a lot of options. An architecture where everything is loaded in LEO (or MEO, whatever) is obviously ideal as it obviates SLS. >$4B a flight freed up buys a lot of lunar missions with other vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pthigrivi Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Yeah it sure feels like SLS is on a road to cancellation unless SS blows up on the pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, Pthigrivi said: Yeah it sure feels like SLS is on a road to cancellation unless SS blows up on the pad. SLS funding is independent of normal considerations. the pork will flow at least for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 In about 3 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kspbutitscursed Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Sooooo wen launch i reckon 16th of november for the memes cough cough SLS cough cough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1MYxNoZBVENKw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Landed. SECO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 How many Starship launches/launch attempts do you think SpaceX is aiming for 2024? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 6 hours ago, DAL59 said: How many Starship launches/launch attempts do you think SpaceX is aiming for 2024? I'd guess >2 but <4. They are likely aiming for as many as remotely possible plus one, ha ha. How many will actually happen? The problem is reconciling "take Elon-time with a grain of salt" with "never, ever, underestimate what the SpaceX team will achieve in demon mode". Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 hours ago, darthgently said: I'd guess >2 but <4. They are likely aiming for as many as remotely possible plus one, ha ha. How many will actually happen? The problem is reconciling "take Elon-time with a grain of salt" with "never, ever, underestimate what the SpaceX team will achieve in demon mode". Who knows? I guess 5 who is their current permit as I understand, might be more as they have plenty hardware stacked up already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pthigrivi Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I call 4. Whats the prize? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pthigrivi said: I call 4. Whats the prize? A free Threads account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicTech Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I'll guess three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pthigrivi Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, darthgently said: A free Threads account Oh hmm I exclusively use Myspace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 As many as they can get away with, which likely depends on how well IFT-2 goes, and if the new pad holds up. If it does, we can expect them to push for IFT-3 immediately after, if not by the end of the year, then early 2024, with subsequent flights every couple months or so, give or take. So I vote 4-5 next year, with the possibility of at least one successful landing attempt by the booster and/or ship before 2025. And this can either be on land, or a soft water splashdown. 2025 will be the year the Starship program really gets rolling, as they'll transition from testing to operations, and begin achieving critical milestones for both their internal and HLS goals, like reuse and refueling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, DAL59 said: How many Starship launches/launch attempts do you think SpaceX is aiming for 2024? Wow, I read this as 2023 originally when I guessed 3-ish. 2024? Way too many variables, but I'm thinking as many as 5+, 3 at the lowest, 7 highest. Any delays would be from RUDs and resulting reporting/compliance issues mostly, but perhaps some out of the blue EPA issue (turtle spawning season?) I'm being optimistic, admittedly Edited September 20, 2023 by darthgently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 41 minutes ago, darthgently said: being optimistic, admittedly I think that's warranted. Realistically all they're trying to do is scale up from what they already know how to do. Yes, new engines and yes, different vehicle... But there is a whole difference between trying to do something for the first time ever and trying to do it again, but bigger. I'm guessing the October (fingers crossed) launch will succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SunlitZelkova Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 9 hours ago, Spaceception said: As many as they can get away with, which likely depends on how well IFT-2 goes, and if the new pad holds up. If it does, we can expect them to push for IFT-3 immediately after, if not by the end of the year, then early 2024, with subsequent flights every couple months or so, give or take. So I vote 4-5 next year, with the possibility of at least one successful landing attempt by the booster and/or ship before 2025. And this can either be on land, or a soft water splashdown. 2025 will be the year the Starship program really gets rolling, as they'll transition from testing to operations, and begin achieving critical milestones for both their internal and HLS goals, like reuse and refueling. It’s so weird to think a super heavy lift launch vehicle will be launching so often, considering how little the Saturn V flew. It’s a shame the Soviets couldn’t launch N1s at the same rate they did R-7s. SpaceX will have to avenge them and the 30+ engine design! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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