Air Superiority Fighter Competition

[exbyde]

Well, i said sunday was going to be the big day for combat. Well

For our first (official) battle of the day, we have the KAI & PTDI KF-X/IF-X Redux from @[INDO]dimas_1502. Its a scale model of a joint project aircraft made in S. Korea, armed to the teeth and ready to fight. On the other side is the time-tested Fighter 3 MK2, the missile-slinging delta dagger. Who will win?

Thanks to the KAI's lack of maneuverability and lack of aggression with its armament, it gets taken out 1-6 by the F3.

[Piatzin]

8 minutes ago, exbyde said:

Well, i said sunday was going to be the big day for combat. Well

Noice

Just don't neglect your actual studies. Those are more important

[exbyde]

5 minutes ago, Earthlinger said:

Noice

Just don't neglect your actual studies. Those are more important

Last exam was today. Need to work on a project in a couple hours, but otherwise the hard stuff is done.

Alright, for battle two, we have the lightweight aggressor, @NotAnAimbot's Novi Aero, a single-engine, high-performance fighter designed to take down everything. On the other side, we have the heavyweight missile sled, @53miner53's Fighter 3 mk2. Who will win? Who will lose?

In a stunning battle, the highly-aggressive Novi fighter steals the win and the #5 spot @HeroBrian_333

[exbyde]

Battle three is here: In the left corner, we have @Thor Wotansen's Bryntroll defending its #4 spot. In the right, @NotAnAimbot's Novi Aero fighter. Both of these are lightweight , aggressive little beasts, but who will win?

In a stunning victory, the Bryntroll has been defeated, leaving the Novi in 4th place, and the Bryntroll, the original first place aircraft, as the plane to beat to enter the roster! @HeroBrian_333

Edited December 14, 2017 by exbyde

[Piatzin]

@[INDO]dimas_1502

Regarding the maneuverability of your planes (tips):

-First of all, MOH WINGS! Clip wings inside each other, if possible. About 3 main wings with a lift of 1.2 on each side of the plane should be good

-The center of mass should be very near the center of lift. They should be close to to the point of merging slightly, though not to the point of being on top of each other

-Take out most of the fuel in your plane. I noticed a lot of fuel tanks, but in a dogfight, they're useless. You're better off draining most of them so that each tank has about 10-25% of the full capacity. (Make sure to drain them evenly, so that the COM doesn't change drastically). Draining the fuel will make the plane faster and less sluggish

[exbyde]

3 minutes ago, Earthlinger said:

@[INDO]dimas_1502

Regarding the maneuverability of your planes (tips):

-First of all, MOH WINGS! Clip wings inside each other, if possible. About 3 main wings with a lift of 1.2 on each side of the plane should be good

-The center of mass should be very near the center of lift. They should be close to to the point of merging slightly, though not to the point of being on top of each other

-Take out most of the fuel in your plane. I noticed a lot of fuel tanks, but in a dogfight, they're useless. You're better off draining most of them so that each tank has about 10-25% of the full capacity. (Make sure to drain them evenly, so that the COM doesn't change drastically). Draining the fuel will make the plane faster and less sluggish

I believe he specifically modified his aircraft with a ballast tank (ore) for CG.

[Piatzin]

5 minutes ago, exbyde said:

I believe he specifically modified his aircraft with a ballast tank (ore) for CG.

........

He added ore as ballast tanks? What for?

[exbyde]

1 minute ago, Earthlinger said:

........

He added ore as ballast tanks? What for?

i'd mentioned CG issues beforehand, so he added weight to get the cg in check.

[Piatzin]

Just now, exbyde said:

i'd mentioned CG issues beforehand, so he added weight to get the cg in check.

@[INDO]dimas_1502 You should take out weight, not add more. Play around with the fuel in the tanks, it's better than adding more mass

[exbyde]

Alrighty, and for our next battle, we have the Sanngrior going up against @NotAnAimbot's Novi. The Novi has proved itself quite proficient in combat, but can it win out for the auto-jump to the #2 spot?

Indeed, the Novi continues its meteoric climb, making its way to the #2 spot previously vacated in the Turret debacle. So as it stands, our roster is:

@drtricky's Dorito

@NotAnAimbot's Novi Aero

@Thor Wotansen's Sanngrior drone

@Thor Wotansen's Bryntroll

@53miner53's Fighter 3

[Piatzin]

3 minutes ago, exbyde said:

Indeed, the Novi continues its meteoric climb

Hats off

Apologies for my similar, yet non-legitimate/unfair climb to the top with the Berzerkers

[exbyde]

And for the final battle for the Novi, the battle with our current #1, DrTricky's Dorito. The dorito is the only aircraft to earn its spot from a turreted aircraft, but can it defeat the novi?

 

As we see in Battle two and three, the Novi's choice of an all-infrared missile compliment is its undoing, as it shoots down its own aircraft in an already difficult battle. The Dorito keeps its crown, as the Novi settles in at the No. 2 slot.

[exbyde]

And for our next battle of the day: i believe it's @MiffedStarfish's Messor f-42 up against the long-time missile spamming champion, @53miner53 F3Mk2. From the looks of things, the Messor is also a missile spamming fighter. But with two fewer engines, can the Messor outspam the F3?

In this case, the optionally manned F-42d is outfoxed by the F3 and its superior maneuvering/missiles

also @miffedstarfish is your name supposed to be translated to australian?

Edited December 14, 2017 by exbyde

[MiffedStarfish]

Ah well. I still need to make AI tweaks. 

The name is Latin for “reaper”.

[exbyde]

And for my last battle for the day: we have @HeroBrian_333's Eurodart concept drone against @53miner53's F3mk2.

 

In this case, the F3 comes out ahead, owing to superior maneuverability and gun handling, though a few gun kills never hurt.

17 minutes ago, MiffedStarfish said:

Ah well. I still need to make AI tweaks. 

The name is Latin for “reaper”.

Oh, no i meant because miffedstarfish loosely translates to annoyed anus.

Edited December 14, 2017 by exbyde

[MiffedStarfish]

13 minutes ago, exbyde said:

loosely translates to angry anus.

Ah... ah... um... that was unintended. I’m not really sure how to react to that.

[HeroBrian_333]

33 minutes ago, exbyde said:

Oh, no i meant because miffedstarfish loosely translates to annoyed anus.

@exbyde please keep it appropriate

[exbyde]

3 minutes ago, HeroBrian_333 said:

@exbyde please keep it appropriate

Is bootyhole more appropriate, or what should be the alternative here?

[HeroBrian_333]

1 minute ago, exbyde said:

Is bootyhole more appropriate, or what should be the alternative here?

Not making the comment in the first place.

[exbyde]

3 minutes ago, HeroBrian_333 said:

Not making the comment in the first place.

Ok ill keep that in mind

[drtricky]

@exbyde I've also noticed that even though the AIM-9's have been buffed, they can still be dealt with by having enough flares.

[exbyde]

10 minutes ago, drtricky said:

@exbyde I've also noticed that even though the AIM-9's have been buffed, they can still be dealt with by having enough flares.

Problem is they still dont IFF. sanngriors have shot themselves down, and novis definitely do. And aircraft involved in friendly fire dont flare or avoid.

Edited December 14, 2017 by exbyde

[drtricky]

@exbyde I observed the Dorito targeting its allies with the AIM-120's during the 8v8 with the bezerker drones. Is it just that friendly fire is far less likely with the AIM-120?

Edited December 14, 2017 by drtricky

[exbyde]

38 minutes ago, drtricky said:

@exbyde I observed the Dorito targeting its allies with the AIM-120's during the 8v8 with the bezerker drones. Is it just that friendly fire is far less likely with the AIM-120?

Its on how targeting is done. AIM-120 locks on radar and coordinates original lock with onboard radome, so it may target friendly, but it probably won't fire. AIM-9s target heat, whatever heat is in their scanning radius, friend or foe. If you point at the fighter a few clicks away and it sees the allied aircraft in broken formation down and right, then thats what it goes after. Thats why you hear that growling noise when aim-9s are seeking, low growl indicates no lock, and a high growl indicates a lock on something, Its a byproduct of this missile coming into service in...1956! with variants all down the line of course to modernize.

*note, this is based on real-life and what i observe in fights. I am not BahamutoD and he may have things programmed differently.

Edited December 15, 2017 by exbyde

[exbyde]

And last battle for the night, we have  @MrChumley's ReSoup up against @53miner53's delta dagger F3. Will the F3 continue to defend its spot in the roster, or will we have a new face to greet inbound fighters?

In a stunning pair of battles, the ReSoup takes home the #5 spot on the roster. Next battle is looking like ReSoup vs Bryntroll, which will come around tomorrow evening most likely.