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1 hour ago, SunlitZelkova said:

It would be so cool to know how this thing would have fitted into Soviet doctrine in Central Europe had the Pact not fell. It’s very different from the Mi-24.

Hobbitroopers?

The helicopter itself is from the Soviet epoch, a by-product of Mi-26 (uses its engine/reductor).

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When you hit "Abort" by accident! :sticktongue:

note: I'm unsure about what to think about the joke in the end...

note2: made my mind. stupid joke at the end of the video. the history is excellent, but the final remarks are completely unnecessary and detrimental to the content. I suggest to stop the video at 18:00 and call it a day.

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On 4/18/2024 at 12:42 AM, DDE said:

Until individual tank ECM and micro-flak are perfected, nerds are going to be subjected to aesthetic suffering

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That thing looks like solid sheet metal, not nets

COPE SHED

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1 hour ago, AstroWolfie said:

COPE SHED

"We have Rammtiger (P) at home"...

It's all the more ironic that the Rammtiger was a product of Stalingrad, and the Tsar-Cages/B****mobiles have thus far been spotted exclusively with the 5th Brigade of the 8th Guards Army. Yes, Chuikov's 62n/8th Guards Stalingrad Army.

Additionally, some of them retain the standard-issue ECM:

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Then there's the opposite extreme...

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"I am all the Jedi jammers"

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Porter turret rifle.

Porter had to overcome a problem with Colt patenting the cylinder design for rifles, so he gone with a turret.

Problem: the thing has the this strange habit of misfiring - and not only the bullet on the chamber, but all of them in the turret. And since the thing is, well, circular, at least a bunch of bullets were facing the shooter.

If no client is back complaining, it must be good, right? Well... :P

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https://www.historynet.com/the-porter-turret-rifle-ingenious-features-yet-inherently-flawed/

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On 4/28/2024 at 8:52 PM, kerbiloid said:

Hobbitroopers?

The helicopter itself is from the Soviet epoch, a by-product of Mi-26 (uses its engine/reductor).

Mi-28. It’s pretty different from the Mi-24, perhaps resulting in some doctrine change on the use of attack helicopters?

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On 4/29/2024 at 7:03 PM, DDE said:

 

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As it was described on topwar, the native tank was previously damaged, its turret rotation mechanism was destroyed, so the turret was locked with the gun pointing to the right from the normal.

Thus, they covered it with the ... external hull, as they anyway had to turn the whole tank to aim.

When it was hit once again, they took it back, enforced the hull and added the ECM on top.

So, it's a usage of the still-shooting postapoctank for the fire support of infantry.

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11 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:

As it was described on topwar, [...]

The first time I read it, I thought on "tupperware". I had to read it again to get it right. Gee...

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1 hour ago, SunlitZelkova said:

Mi-28. It’s pretty different from the Mi-24, perhaps resulting in some doctrine change on the use of attack helicopters?

Mi-28 is a Mi-26 by-product. They created a propeller supermechanism for the heavy Mi-26, and then built an attack Mi-28 around the same mechanism.

Mi-24 is from another reality. It was designed as a flying IFV for a squad of stormtroopers.

The main idea of the USSR in 1940...1980s was a rapid tank march to La-Manche ("in two weeks to La-Manche").
As the Europe is full of rivers and lakes to cross, it made problematic their permanent crossing with heavy tanks.
Thus, the combination of PT-76 swimming tank, BTR-50 swimming APC,  and BMP-1 swimming IFV was to quickly cross the river without bridges.
Then PT-76 and BMP-1, both armed with then-modern standard 73 mm gun and (on BMP-1) ATGM Malyutka ("Little One") was to stay there and support the infantry from the BMP-1 with anti-tank fire, while the BTR-50 should be shuttling across the river, and bringing more and more infantry.
Meanwhile, the engineers would build the pontoon bridges and provide the underwater fords for tanks, and then the main force on tanks, trucks, and by foot, move forward.
(From this the strange Soviet definition of IFV as "transporting troops on the battlefield", and APC as "transporting troops to the battlefield" came from.)

Once the RPG and ATGM got popular, the tank armor got thicker, the 73 mm got weaker, the PT-76 had left the main scene, BMP-1 was replaced with 30-mm BMP-2, and it became not clear, how to enforce them.
Thus, the cargocopter Mi-8 was redesigned into a flying IFV Mi-24 in addition to BMP-2, to enforce the advanced units. Like a hardened Blackhawk.

The further progress made the flying IFV conception mostly obsolete, so they had splitted it into the attack helicopters (Mi-28 and Ka-50/52), while the Mi-8 was several times upgraded, armed, and used to carry troops with the attack helicopters support.

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On 4/30/2024 at 1:28 PM, Lisias said:

Porter turret rifle.

Porter had to overcome a problem with Colt patenting the cylinder design for rifles, so he gone with a turret.

Problem: the thing has the this strange habit of misfiring - and not only the bullet on the chamber, but all of them in the turret. And since the thing is, well, circular, at least a bunch of bullets were facing the shooter.

If no client is back complaining, it must be good, right? Well... :P

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https://www.historynet.com/the-porter-turret-rifle-ingenious-features-yet-inherently-flawed/

A bit weird that it could chain fire unless you used lots of oil and then spilled powder all over it who might happen :) 
But see this as more likely on an standard revolver as the chambers are much closer and you had the front face of the revolver who  could redirect leaked flames to the other chambers, at least your not shooting yourself. 
The first revolvers was muzzle loaded but you load each chamber with, powder, a bullet and put an blasting cap on the rear, you now had 5-6 shots you could shoot fast. 

Revolver rifles was never very popular, one reason might be chain fire risk and now left hand is ahead of chamber, the other is that its an gap between the chamber and the barrel and some flame will take this path. This is true on most revolvers, an Soviet design  pushed the cylinder forward sealing the gap but this was an much later design. 

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10 hours ago, DDE said:

The actually thought of airlifting crude oil back then...

Somebody was sitting in the office, and playing with the office tools and the flies...
 

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Gas thieves in Pakistan. Normal tanks are banned from private use, so they siphon from mains into a wholly different type of enclosure

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And here comes Kerman!

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1 hour ago, DDE said:

Gas thieves in Pakistan. Normal tanks are banned from private use, so they siphon from mains into a wholly different type of enclosure

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And here comes Kerman!

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If there was no plan to add consent mechanics to KSP2’s multiplayer, sneaking up on unsuspecting ships and stealing their fuel would be an interesting challenge.

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38 minutes ago, SunlitZelkova said:

If there was no plan to add consent mechanics to KSP2’s multiplayer, sneaking up on unsuspecting ships and stealing their fuel would be an interesting challenge.

You know, the BDA guys would like the concept.

Instead of "Catch the Flag", a new mode called "Catch the Fuel - Snacks for free".

Team Fortress my <piiiiii>, Team Station, baby!!!!

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52 minutes ago, Lisias said:

Instead of "Catch the Flag", a new mode called "Catch the Fuel - Snacks for free".

Did someone say "Take their fuel"!?

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Btw it's a shameful illiteracy to call this thing on the top of the tank turret  "mangal" ("grill"), because it's a protective baldachin.

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Mi-10 Flying Crane.

A very, very, very unexpected looking helicopter...

You don't board this thing. You climb it...

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On 5/7/2024 at 8:22 AM, DDE said:

Gas thieves in Pakistan. Normal tanks are banned from private use, so they siphon from mains into a wholly different type of enclosure

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And here comes Kerman!

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Wait are propane tanks banned in Pakistan? Why, has seen wending machines for them here in Norway and we mostly use it for grilling. 
Now propane tanks hold an pressure so the gas is liquid, while I assume the pipes is mostly methane and under moderate pressure, say 10 bar and you are just makeing an hole in the pipe so the best you can do is fill up an large balloon. 

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8 minutes ago, magnemoe said:

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Wait are propane tanks banned in Pakistan? Why, has seen wending machines for them here in Norway and we mostly use it for grilling. 
Now propane tanks hold an pressure so the gas is liquid, while I assume the pipes is mostly methane and under moderate pressure, say 10 bar and you are just makeing an hole in the pipe so the best you can do is fill up an large balloon. 

It's methane. And the illegal taps are operated by professional ne'er-do-wells.

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In the early 1950s, the US looked into combining a single-seat armed reconnaissance ducted-fan VTOL (Falcon) with an Aerie mobile platform derived from the REX medium tank.

Which basically meant a flying turret.

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In hindsight, they weren't barking up the wrong tree...

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