RealKerbal3x Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 minute ago, s_gamer101 said: Nothing that cannot be fixed with a piece of duct tape. Duct tape is advanced rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, s_gamer101 said: Nothing that cannot be fixed with a piece of duct tape. Duct tape is advanced rocket science. What they'll do to the leak is probably not a lot more sophisticated than that, but the trick is finding where to stick the tape or equivalent. Slow leaks are hard enough to find when you aren't inside the pressurized vessel you''re testing, breathing the mixture you're testing with, and surrounded by vacuum of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Scotius said: Probably bad seal somewhere. ISS is not exactly a spring chicken anymore There is also a (lesser) chance it's the effect of a collision - maybe micrometeoroid, maybe a small piece of space trash. Or maybe... mini-Kraken hidden somewhere is chewing on the hull trying to escape Colliders of two parts unexpectedly intersect and cause parts trembling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Moach said: The most Kerbal thing to do in such a case: Scatter a bunch of M&M's in the cabin and watch where they drift; There's your hole! Then find a bottle that looks not too important, and plug the hole with the cork. There! I fixed it! Who said rocket science was hard? *munch munch* ...do we have any more M&M's? *munch* i wouldn't doubt that they have some canned smoke on board just for this purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 A boiling kettle. The steam would flow like the smoke, but is more safe as doesn't contain hard particles. And btw about the coffee. Maybe, its vapour is enough instead of the cigars. So, hot coffee, chewing gum, and balloons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_gamer101 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 But it would still lead to the air cleaning system and not to the leak. And a boiling kettle in zero G? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotel26 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) "Finger to the side of a nostril; blow hard..." Problem solved. NASA 101. [This one's for you, @kerbiloid: you've made me laugh so long and so hard...] Edited August 23, 2020 by Hotel26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Only thing I've heard was that they need to sleep in one of the hatch module instead... did say about air pressure getting lower a bit faster than usual but that's it. I do hope that it's a clear punch hole though. If it turns out to be like the connection sealant, or even worse, corrosion or fatigue... then we'd have to think reeeally fast. Even most buildings on Earth have to be refurbished somewhere halfway through their expected lifetime... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_gamer101 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Good thing they have a capsule that could be used as escape pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_gamer101 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Could you hear a leak of this size? I mean there is air streaming out, doesn‘t this produce a sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpaget Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Isn't this the leak they've known for months now, but had more important stuff to do, rather than this depressing issue? I forget where I got this from, but the leak is still within spec for the ISS, but it's above the usual and they just want to figure out what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, s_gamer101 said: Could you hear a leak of this size? I mean there is air streaming out, doesn‘t this produce a sound? Yes. It's ringing in ears, right before getting unconscious. *** Also, why call it "hole"? It's the "unannounced extra aperture". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radonek Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 I would like to remind all the wiseasses around there is something of a difference between these sets of walls Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_gamer101 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 "Has anyone seen my phone charger?" "No but it must be there... somwhere between all those cables" At least there are no cables that are going through the hatch. When the Progress craft crashed into the Mir, they had trouble sealing the damaged module begause they had to remove all the cables first before they could close tha hatch. But you're right, this mess won't make it easyer to find a leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Threads about the ISS have been merged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) The executive director of Roscosmos for crewed programs, Sergei Krikalyov, admitted that the leakage may be located on the Russian part of ISS. He is sad that they made an unhealthy excitement out of this, declaring the Americans guilty in advance. Actually, currently nobody knows, and all airlocks should be closed in any case. Also, there can be no leakage at all, and the pressure has changed due to the life support system work. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/723015 Edited August 24, 2020 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Haha, well. I guess closing all the airlocks does rather identify the culprits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 5:59 AM, s_gamer101 said: Could you hear a leak of this size? I mean there is air streaming out, doesn‘t this produce a sound? We haven't been told what "this size" is. The ISS is a noisy place, what with all the air that is moving around in it all the time. A leak from full pressure to vacuum would probably have a pretty distinctive acoustic signature. Likely very high frequency, especially if the leak path was narrow. Acoustic leak detectors usually use microphones and look for ultrasonic noise humans can't hear with their own ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I got the impression they noticed the leak from data that the air levels (which usually drop slowly over time, so some leaking/loss I guess is normal) were lower than expected by some small amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, tater said: I got the impression they noticed the leak from data that the air levels (which usually drop slowly over time, so some leaking/loss I guess is normal) were lower than expected by some small amount. That's correct, the leak levels are constantly monitored and were observed to be leaking air at a slightly higher rate than usual, however because of events like a series of spacewalks which vent some air they did not have a good window to properly observe this phenomenon until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 They tried knocking on the barometer, but even this didn't help. So, they suspected that something is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 By the way: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) Spoiler Occupied... Spoiler Edited August 24, 2020 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_gamer101 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 How did they find the previous leak? (If I remember correctly, this isn‘t the first one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, s_gamer101 said: How did they find the previous leak? (If I remember correctly, this isn‘t the first one) Last time they were probably able to correlate it with the Soyuz when it docked to the Station. (Hole was inside the orbital module of that ship.) That's a much smaller space to look around in, and they found the hole in the wall. If this leak is more like a faulty seal on one of the docked sections, there wouldn't be an easy hole to spot. And many vehicles have come and left while it's been going on, so it's something on the station. It will take a little more work to find where the problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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